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The wolves area with a lot of traps in DA:O sadden me. Wolves are such great creatures. We shouldn't be forced to kill them. Bears too. 

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A little about them in folklore. See Fenrir in particular. They are truly magnificent and great. I'd like one as a companion in DA2 and once again let me stress, not killing them.

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Hmmm... I suppose I can see your point. And yeah, a wolf companion would be great.

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Wolves can be dangerous, so can bears. If they attack first, I'm killing them.

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aaniadyen wrote...

Wolves can be dangerous, so can bears. If they attack first, I'm killing them.


But there's no avoiding them. In the Brecilian forest, as soon as you see them, they turn hostile and start to rage. I'm just hoping they'll make it like in BG, where I could avoid them and others can kill them if they like.

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I don't want to offend any PETA members, but I don't mind killing animals in a video game.



In real life, different story. I love animals.

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You know, this "save the environment" thing is an attitude of the modern world. In medieval times, nature was a dangerous enemy. If you went out into the wild you were fighting for your own survival just as much as a wolf would be.



So killing wild animals in a fantasy game makes total sense.



I myself am an animal lover and I probably couldn't kill a wolf or a bear unless my life depended on it, I'm just saying. If you were a person in a medieval setting, all bets were off.

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The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

Wolves can be dangerous, so can bears. If they attack first, I'm killing them.


But there's no avoiding them. In the Brecilian forest, as soon as you see them, they turn hostile and start to rage. I'm just hoping they'll make it like in BG, where I could avoid them and others can kill them if they like.


I figured it was due to darkspawn influence, and in that event it'd play into the whole dark fantasy thing. I didn't like killing them either.

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Anarya's right. Back then, they were looked at as beasts. So if you saw one, and they so much as moved in your direction, you shot an arrow through their faces.

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Support the Ranger specialization! Or at least an improved version of it. I'm not personally supporting it, though. Don't care much about animal allies.

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Maybe it was growing up with friends who wanted to be wolves and decorated their rooms with wolf-themed art and drew wolves and dressed as wolves for Halloween and ran on all fours on the playground and howled during sleepovers... but I'm completely sick of wolves and I'll happily kill them. Sorry, PETA.

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The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

The wolves area with a lot of traps in DA:O sadden me. Wolves are such great creatures. We shouldn't be forced to kill them. Bears too. 

Wolves:
http://t3.gstatic.co...svWrpmIflxeyZE=

A little about them in folklore. See Fenrir in particular. They are truly magnificent and great. I'd like one as a companion in DA2 and once again let me stress, not killing them.


Alright. This is definitely a joke. Fenrir reference confirms it. Anyone who knows anything about that slice of mythology would recognize it for what it is. Fenrir the Devourer, the great wolf who's maw reaches from the sky to the ground, and would open wider if but there was more room for it to do so. His escape from his bonds, the breaking of the final chain that keeps him penned, kicks off Ragnarok which is the end of everything. Ever. He is a great villain. An unstoppable evil of the world. The child of Loki, etc. etc...

But let me, in all seriousness, point something out. Wolves were, in the past, man kind's top competitors for food, land and resources. In the time of Dragon Age they would still be very much a threat to humans. They were our enemies. If you think this is a joke, look up Wolf Trials... interesting stuff that speaks to the mindset of people back in those days. Wolves put on trial, put on trial, for murdering livestock, stealing farmer's goods, trespassing and just regular old murder.

The only thing that makes wolves magnificent and great in the modern age is because they no longer threaten people in a big way. And we have so successfully beaten them that they have become endangered in many parts of the world. So now people feel sorry for them.

Modifié par ShrinkingFish, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:14 .


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I'm not like a huge animal lover or anything, but I did feel there was something a bit wrong with having to kill wolves and bears in DA.. Especially those two animal groups, because, ironically, I'm Native American and my spirit guide is a wolf while my totem animal is a bear >.<.. Kind of disheartening having to kill them, but eh.. It's just a video game lol

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Anarya wrote...

You know, this "save the environment" thing is an attitude of the modern world. In medieval times, nature was a dangerous enemy. If you went out into the wild you were fighting for your own survival just as much as a wolf would be.

So killing wild animals in a fantasy game makes total sense.

I myself am an animal lover and I probably couldn't kill a wolf or a bear unless my life depended on it, I'm just saying. If you were a person in a medieval setting, all bets were off.


This. Completely correct.

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but it is ok to kill people? ......

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joey_mork84 wrote...

I'm not like a huge animal lover or anything, but I did feel there was something a bit wrong with having to kill wolves and bears in DA.. Especially those two animal groups, because, ironically, I'm Native American and my spirit guide is a wolf while my totem animal is a bear >.<.. Kind of disheartening having to kill them, but eh.. It's just a video game lol


Hey, that's cool. My spirit animal is a wolf too, but my totem animal is a hawk.

But still. If a wolf attacked me in real life. I would not mind killing it. It sucks, yes, but like hell I'm going to let it kill me.

The characters in the game are put in this position, because this is the position that naturally occurs. Wolves see human, they either avoid them or attack them, when attacked you can either die or fight. I'll fight any day.

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chaos-zhan wrote...

but it is ok to kill people? ......


No, it should be like Legend of Zelda and we should only kill spiders and mean looking plants and one angry man who never actually dies, so it's okay.

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filaminstrel wrote...

chaos-zhan wrote...

but it is ok to kill people? ......


No, it should be like Legend of Zelda and we should only kill spiders and mean looking plants and one angry man who never actually dies, so it's okay.


I happily buried my sword a good three or four feet into that old man's forehead. AND HE STILL CAME BACK!

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ShrinkingFish wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

I'm not like a huge animal lover or anything, but I did feel there was something a bit wrong with having to kill wolves and bears in DA.. Especially those two animal groups, because, ironically, I'm Native American and my spirit guide is a wolf while my totem animal is a bear >.<.. Kind of disheartening having to kill them, but eh.. It's just a video game lol


Hey, that's cool. My spirit animal is a wolf too, but my totem animal is a hawk.

But still. If a wolf attacked me in real life. I would not mind killing it. It sucks, yes, but like hell I'm going to let it kill me.

The characters in the game are put in this position, because this is the position that naturally occurs. Wolves see human, they either avoid them or attack them, when attacked you can either die or fight. I'll fight any day.


What's the difference between a spirit animal and a totem animal and how do you know what yours are?

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ShrinkingFish wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

The wolves area with a lot of traps in DA:O sadden me. Wolves are such great creatures. We shouldn't be forced to kill them. Bears too. 

Wolves:
http://t3.gstatic.co...svWrpmIflxeyZE=

A little about them in folklore. See Fenrir in particular. They are truly magnificent and great. I'd like one as a companion in DA2 and once again let me stress, not killing them.


Alright. This is definitely a joke. Fenrir reference confirms it. Anyone who knows anything about that slice of mythology would recognize it for what it is. Fenrir the Devourer, the great wolf who's maw reaches from the sky to the ground, and would open wider if but there was more room for it to do so. His escape from his bonds, the breaking of the final chain that keeps him penned, kicks off Ragnarok which is the end of everything. Ever. He is a great villain. An unstoppable evil of the world. The child of Loki, etc. etc...



Heh. Fenrir is still great, villain or no.:D

But seriously, I'd like to avoid killing them and people too. I never kill Ser Cauthrien at the Landsmeet in all my playthrough. Just felt more epic in convincing her to step aside.

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Muhahahahahahah!!!

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The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

The wolves area with a lot of traps in DA:O sadden me. Wolves are such great creatures. We shouldn't be forced to kill them. Bears too. 

Wolves:
http://t3.gstatic.co...svWrpmIflxeyZE=

A little about them in folklore. See Fenrir in particular. They are truly magnificent and great. I'd like one as a companion in DA2 and once again let me stress, not killing them.


Alright. This is definitely a joke. Fenrir reference confirms it. Anyone who knows anything about that slice of mythology would recognize it for what it is. Fenrir the Devourer, the great wolf who's maw reaches from the sky to the ground, and would open wider if but there was more room for it to do so. His escape from his bonds, the breaking of the final chain that keeps him penned, kicks off Ragnarok which is the end of everything. Ever. He is a great villain. An unstoppable evil of the world. The child of Loki, etc. etc...



Heh. Fenrir is still great, villain or no.:D

But seriously, I'd like to avoid killing them and people too. I never kill Ser Cauthrien at the Landsmeet in all my playthrough. Just felt more epic in convincing her to step aside.


Wait. You can do that? She always ends up fighting me... crazy.

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ShrinkingFish wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

The wolves area with a lot of traps in DA:O sadden me. Wolves are such great creatures. We shouldn't be forced to kill them. Bears too. 

Wolves:
http://t3.gstatic.co...svWrpmIflxeyZE=

A little about them in folklore. See Fenrir in particular. They are truly magnificent and great. I'd like one as a companion in DA2 and once again let me stress, not killing them.


Alright. This is definitely a joke. Fenrir reference confirms it. Anyone who knows anything about that slice of mythology would recognize it for what it is. Fenrir the Devourer, the great wolf who's maw reaches from the sky to the ground, and would open wider if but there was more room for it to do so. His escape from his bonds, the breaking of the final chain that keeps him penned, kicks off Ragnarok which is the end of everything. Ever. He is a great villain. An unstoppable evil of the world. The child of Loki, etc. etc...



Heh. Fenrir is still great, villain or no.:D

But seriously, I'd like to avoid killing them and people too. I never kill Ser Cauthrien at the Landsmeet in all my playthrough. Just felt more epic in convincing her to step aside.


Wait. You can do that? She always ends up fighting me... crazy.


Yes, you can. At the Landsmeet not during your rescue of Anora.

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I'd also prefer to avoid the staple cannon fodder when there are plenty of other things that fight back which are more satisfying to kill

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Anarya wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

I'm not like a huge animal lover or anything, but I did feel there was something a bit wrong with having to kill wolves and bears in DA.. Especially those two animal groups, because, ironically, I'm Native American and my spirit guide is a wolf while my totem animal is a bear >.<.. Kind of disheartening having to kill them, but eh.. It's just a video game lol


Hey, that's cool. My spirit animal is a wolf too, but my totem animal is a hawk.

But still. If a wolf attacked me in real life. I would not mind killing it. It sucks, yes, but like hell I'm going to let it kill me.

The characters in the game are put in this position, because this is the position that naturally occurs. Wolves see human, they either avoid them or attack them, when attacked you can either die or fight. I'll fight any day.


What's the difference between a spirit animal and a totem animal and how do you know what yours are?


They inhabit different roles in your life is the short answer. Honestly I don't think I should be the one to explain it as I have come to an understanding through more unconventional means. I came to know mine throughout my life and experiences. But I have no knowlege of Native American practices in this matter. Though some I have known have recognized it in me. How, I cannot even begin to guess, but there you have it.

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chaos-zhan wrote...

but it is ok to kill people? ......


Yes, killing animals is boring.