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[KJandrew]

 I know that in DAO Sten says that the Qunari hear stories that the Grey Wardens are great warriors but i was wondering how they actually view the Wardens.
The Quanri believe that people should stick to their place in life but the Grey Wardens accept anyone with the skill from any walk of life. Women (which sten had a bit of a problem with if remember correctly), Thieves and most importantly Mages who the Qunari have a special dislike of and their fireball and lightning shooting ways.
So what i was wondering is do the Qunari ignores these things because of their fighting prowess or are the viewed as vile infidels or anything in the middle?

Modifié par KJandrew, 02 octobre 2010 - 01:44 .

[AlanC9]

Well, they can't be "heretics" if they don't follow the Qun in the first place. But I suppose the Grey Wardens would be seen as even more misguided than the rest of the non-Qunari.

[KJandrew]

switched it to infidels if that makes more sense/makes you feel better

[AlexXIV]

Well the Qunari probably only know Grey Wardens from tales. And these tales are mostly exaggerated as well. I'd think Sten is one of the few who ever spent a longer time with a Grey Warden, and this particular was not a one like others, he/she was special (DG mentioned somewhere Sten regards the Warden as a sort of unique being of legend, like we would see unicorns or ... well dragons if we met one for real). I guess they judge Grey Wardens as the best warriors outside of the Qun, but that's it. Also the Qunari probably think Grey Wardens don't have a 'proper civilized attitude towards magic' as the rest of humanity. If the Warden dies in the ultimate sacrifice you get the epilogue that says Sten returns to his people and when asked if he met any worthy warriors in his travels then Sten aswered 'only one', which kinda excludes Alistair, Riordan or any other Grey Warden.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 02 octobre 2010 - 01:51 .

[nuclearpengu1nn]

as said by sten peerless warriors

[Wulfram]

I'd guess the Qunari would admire the Grey Wardens dedication to duty, and their military ability. Otherwise, they are not Qunari and thus expected to act as strangely - and wrongly - as the rest.

[Sir JK]

I think this is a two-pronged question actually...



The first one being how do the average qunari view the Grey wardens with what he or she knows, in this one should consider that all the qunari as a whole knows is that the grey wardens are legendary warriors dedicated to fighting darkspawn and stopping blights.

So clearly they are men of extraordinary skill that lay down their lives to kill darkspawn and/or stop blights to the exclusion of everything else. What else could they be?



The other part is, how would the qunari view the grey wardens if they learned what the order actually looks like. Which I think is: confusion at first. Then perhaps amusement like the kind you have for the ideas of small children (and possibly some horror at the idea that this is what is supposed to be the only thing that can stop blights). And finally, possibly, grudging respect

[KJandrew]

But how would they feel about the mages in the order be free reign to do what they want?

Also Qunari believe in the whole "Keeping to your position" kinda thing so how would they feel about the fact that Wardens are coming from all walks of life?

[blothulfur]

I asked Sten this very question and he replied "with their eye's Kadan".

[KJandrew]

blothulfur wrote...

I asked Sten this very question and he replied "with their eye's Kadan".

It was that kinda attitude that made me both love sten and want to stab him repeatedly in the face

[blothulfur]

Yeah the big man was one of a kind but I see this like when you ask him why they have mages at all, he replies that it is necessary in their war with Tevinter. To win a blight the wardens are necessary but that doesn't really clear up how they feel about them really. Sorry.

[silentassassin264]

Derp

Modifié par silentassassin264, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:50 .

[Mary Kirby]

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.



Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

[andar91]

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

Who?

[blothulfur]

Yeah Riordan rocked, oh wait a minute.

[ViSeiRa]

andar91 wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

Who?

Really? is that a trick question or what?

[andar91]

ViSeirA wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

Who?

Really? is that a trick question or what?

It was a joke.

[blothulfur]

A very Sten like joke if I may say.

[Xrissie]

No.

[Dave of Canada]

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

Edited: But didn't Sten view the Warden as being an awesome-super-bud-buddy-friend-guy if you did his sidequest and was kind to him as a whole or is that just him being a /leliana "softie"? I seem to remember reading in my Ultimate Sacrifice ending that he said he met only one super-awesome guy in Ferelden.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:41 .

[Clover Rider]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

But didn't Sten view the Warden as a unicorn?

I don't know about him but I did:unsure:.

[zahra]

Sten is probably the best authority on Wardens at the moment (amongst the Qunari).



Hopefully if you chose to travel with Sten it shows up in DA2 in some way, a mention or something. Sten was the bestest BFF above all of the companions.

[ShrinkingFish]

Mary Kirby wrote...

They don't really know much about the Wardens. All the Qunari know of them, they've heard from the people in Rivain -- which has never been the center of a Blight. So the stories both of Wardens and Blights are more like faerie tales than historical data.

Sten's got the only current information on what a Blight or a Warden even is, and there's not much he can actually say about Grey Wardens. Most of them died in the assault at Ostagar. Two of them survived and killed the archdemon. So, from his viewpoint, Wardens as a group are no more useful than any other soldier. One particular Warden was pretty good at their job, though.

 
Pretty good? A single Warden defied a corrupt monarchy bent on his order's distruction, raised an army from nothing against nearly impossible odds, overthrew said monarchy, then led those armies to victory against overwhelming impossible odds, all with the unstoppable horde washing slowly over his lands and wiping out the grand majority of their standing forces... and that's just "pretty good"? Damn.... I'd like to see what Sten's version of "exceptional" would be.

Modifié par ShrinkingFish, 02 octobre 2010 - 09:04 .

[Beerfish]

I thought Sten thought the Warden was some kind of mysterious magical beast, perhaps a unicorn?