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I am all for this kind of vampire:

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I am not sure if the "traditional" vampire is feasible, but a "vampire abomination" definitely can fit.


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naledgeborn wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

"Fereldan lore is full of instances where these creatures have plagued
the countryside: wolves possessed by rage demons and transformed into
humanoid monsters with incredible speed and strength, able to spread a
curse to those they bit that would drive them mad with unthinking fury.
When in this enraged state, a human host can likewise become possessed
and be transformed into a feral, wolf-like beast. Tales differ on these
werewolves of human origin, some claiming that their transformation into
a bestial form happens uncontrollably. Some claim the transformation is
irreversible. As is often the case with demonic tales, both versions
were most likely true at some point.

--From Codex Entry: Werewolf"

Werewolf, Dragon Age Wiki.

There you go, they came up for a valid reason for Werewolves. Perhaps a rage demon possesed a bat which in turn, bit a human and spread the vampire curse?


By this logic, a demon can possess anything, a boar, or a sheep, or Mr. Wiggums and bite a human. Does this mean that we'll have Were, -boars, -sheep, -cats walking around?


As i said, Bioware is capable of coming up with some kind of solution for a vampire, that was just a quick explanation by me. I dont care, i just want my freakin vampire.

Vampires and Werewolves are my two favourite kind of lore creatures, i was truly surprised when werewolves were in DAO, i hope DA2 can surprise me with vampires.

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KLUME777 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

"Fereldan lore is full of instances where these creatures have plagued
the countryside: wolves possessed by rage demons and transformed into
humanoid monsters with incredible speed and strength, able to spread a
curse to those they bit that would drive them mad with unthinking fury.
When in this enraged state, a human host can likewise become possessed
and be transformed into a feral, wolf-like beast. Tales differ on these
werewolves of human origin, some claiming that their transformation into
a bestial form happens uncontrollably. Some claim the transformation is
irreversible. As is often the case with demonic tales, both versions
were most likely true at some point.

--From Codex Entry: Werewolf"

Werewolf, Dragon Age Wiki.

There you go, they came up for a valid reason for Werewolves. Perhaps a rage demon possesed a bat which in turn, bit a human and spread the vampire curse?


By this logic, a demon can possess anything, a boar, or a sheep, or Mr. Wiggums and bite a human. Does this mean that we'll have Were, -boars, -sheep, -cats walking around?


As i said, Bioware is capable of coming up with some kind of solution for a vampire, that was just a quick explanation by me. I dont care, i just want my freakin vampire.

Vampires and Werewolves are my two favourite kind of lore creatures, i was truly surprised when werewolves were in DAO, i hope DA2 can surprise me with vampires.


I wouldn't count on it.
Bet Twilight really pissed you off though, didn't it?

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There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?

Modifié par filaminstrel, 02 octobre 2010 - 04:42 .


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KLUME777 wrote...

As i said, Bioware is capable of coming up with some kind of solution for a vampire, that was just a quick explanation by me. I dont care, i just want my freakin vampire.


Like I said, DA has vampires and the creature you're describing sounds a lot like a very powerful blood mage. 

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Alistair4Ever wrote...

worked out pretty well in oblivion!


no. no it didn't.


yes. yes it did.

And I think everyone is being to negative about sparkles, I think BioWare should make them with sparkles and still manage to make them bad ass, so that they make the other ones look (even more) like ******. I think it would be funny.

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filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 

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Gah! This thread Has arisen from the grave again! Kill it with fire, wood, and crosses!

*Thumb over pointer finger gesture*

In all seriousness though, no. Vampires are parasites plain and simple, I really don't want to see one in this game. It just wouldn't match at all with the setting.

Modifié par thegreateski, 02 octobre 2010 - 04:49 .


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tool_bot wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 

GO FOR THE EYES, KITTY! THE EYES!

Modifié par thegreateski, 02 octobre 2010 - 04:48 .


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thegreateski wrote...

In all seriousness though, no. Vampires are parasites plain and simple, I really don't want to see one in this game. It just wouldn't match at all with the setting.


Not that I have been persuaded away from my '**** sparkles' position, certain vampires could work. (A character like Alucard from Hellsing could be a blood mage on steroids) 

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tool_bot wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 


Take it from the (not so) proud owner of two cats...those tiny scratches add up, man. God have mercy if you forget to clip their nails. I've got stories.

On a serious note, Anders was probably lying as he doesn't like Templars much.

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filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 


I suppose the same way they possess corpses? Can't tell the difference between different bodies to inhabit. According to this wiki page anyway.

We did encounter what appeared to be a cat possessed by a desire demon, of course.

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Even if it is a blood mage, it could be part blood mage, part demon, part abomination, part curse... Whatever, as long as there is a vampire.



Come on People, think of the possibilities! You could go to the creepy old village, everyone is acting weird, all atmospheric. You go to the old mansion/whatever Bioware comes up with, you confront the Vampire, and with his Powerful mind control ability, you go in a trance and have a nightmare, meanwhile you are being transported to a dungeon or cellar, you wake up naked, "whats going on"....., you have hallucinations etc, the possibilities are endless!



I want a vampire section.

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Besides, we already have a group of characters that fufill all the requirements of being a "vampire" without the sparkles of the Twilight vampires or the weaknesses of regular vampires.

They're called blood mages.

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If they had to do it (and you really don't need to Bioware) then it would really only work for some one to be possessed by something along the lines of a hunger demon, but the resulting being would retain a personality and intellegenc that goes above "eat". I could see it being a sidequest boss, or something along those lines where it's terrorizing a village.

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filaminstrel wrote...

tool_bot wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 


I suppose the same way they possess corpses? Can't tell the difference between different bodies to inhabit. According to this wiki page anyway.

We did encounter what appeared to be a cat possessed by a desire demon, of course.


Yes but we know what ever his name was, kept a lot of magical objects around and that the Veil was weak there. How exactly would a cat get possessed in the Tower of Mages surrounded by Templars.

I mean, I know they're incompetent but they can't be that incompetent.

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KLUME777 wrote...

Even if it is a blood mage, it could be part blood mage, part demon, part abomination, part curse... Whatever, as long as there is a vampire.

Come on People, think of the possibilities! You could go to the creepy old village, everyone is acting weird, all atmospheric. You go to the old mansion/whatever Bioware comes up with, you confront the Vampire, and with his Powerful mind control ability, you go in a trance and have a nightmare, meanwhile you are being transported to a dungeon or cellar, you wake up naked, "whats going on"....., you have hallucinations etc, the possibilities are endless!

I want a vampire section.


You realize they already did this in the Fade sequence in DA:O, yes?

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I mean, I know they're incompetent but they can't be that incompetent.


*cough* Uldred *cough*

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tool_bot wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

tool_bot wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

There was a cat possessed by a rage demon, according to Anders. Took down some templars. A were-cat?


I'm not sure I buy that story. Just how would that happen exactly? 


I suppose the same way they possess corpses? Can't tell the difference between different bodies to inhabit. According to this wiki page anyway.

We did encounter what appeared to be a cat possessed by a desire demon, of course.


Yes but we know what ever his name was, kept a lot of magical objects around and that the Veil was weak there. How exactly would a cat get possessed in the Tower of Mages surrounded by Templars.

I mean, I know they're incompetent but they can't be that incompetent.

They have fellows like Cullen and Alistair running around in that tower. Think about it. They REALLY ARE that incompetent.

Modifié par thegreateski, 02 octobre 2010 - 04:59 .


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KLUME777 wrote...
Come on People, think of the possibilities! You could go to the creepy old village, everyone is acting weird, all atmospheric. You go to the old mansion/whatever Bioware comes up with, you confront the Vampire, and with his Powerful mind control ability, you go in a trance and have a nightmare, meanwhile you are being transported to a dungeon or cellar, you wake up naked, "whats going on"....., you have hallucinations etc, the possibilities are endless!


Again, that's a blood mage. 

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thegreateski wrote...

Gah! This thread Has arisen from the grave again! Kill it with fire, wood, and crosses!

*Thumb over pointer finger gesture*

In all seriousness though, no. Vampires are parasites plain and simple, I really don't want to see one in this game. It just wouldn't match at all with the setting.


I dont recall any other vampire threads.

And i think vampires would fit very neatly into this game. The Werwolves fit perfectly, in fact DAO had a lot of fantasy lore in it. They didnt have vampires because they couldnt fit it all in one game, they can leave that for the sequal. And of coarse, Bioware can put its own spin on it, of coarse. The Werewolfes in DAO are very distinct to DAO, so can vampires.

Ever played Resident Evil 4? Haven in DAO reminds me so much of the villlage in the RE4. I want that same atmospheric feel in for the enthralled village in DA2.

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KLUME777 wrote...

I dont recall any other vampire threads.


There was one a while back. Don't remember how long it was but the devs piped in a bit. Forgot what they said though.

Ever played Resident Evil 4? Haven in DAO reminds me so much of the villlage in the RE4. I want that same atmospheric feel in for the enthralled village in DA2.


Yeah the Fade section could have used some work. And by some I mean a complete facelift.

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KLUME777 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Gah! This thread Has arisen from the grave again! Kill it with fire, wood, and crosses!

*Thumb over pointer finger gesture*

In all seriousness though, no. Vampires are parasites plain and simple, I really don't want to see one in this game. It just wouldn't match at all with the setting.


I dont recall any other vampire threads.

And i think vampires would fit very neatly into this game. The Werwolves fit perfectly, in fact DAO had a lot of fantasy lore in it. They didnt have vampires because they couldnt fit it all in one game, they can leave that for the sequal. And of coarse, Bioware can put its own spin on it, of coarse. The Werewolfes in DAO are very distinct to DAO, so can vampires.

Ever played Resident Evil 4? Haven in DAO reminds me so much of the villlage in the RE4. I want that same atmospheric feel in for the enthralled village in DA2.

It was awhile back but it was very similar to this one. Frightenly so.

But yeah, what you want is a powerful blood mage. We simply haven't come across any yet (except for the Warden).

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Come on People, think of the possibilities! You could go to the creepy old village, everyone is acting weird, all atmospheric. You go to the old mansion/whatever Bioware comes up with, you confront the Vampire, and with his Powerful mind control ability, you go in a trance and have a nightmare, meanwhile you are being transported to a dungeon or cellar, you wake up naked, "whats going on"....., you have hallucinations etc, the possibilities are endless!


Again, that's a blood mage. 


Yes, but Blood Mages dont suck peoples blood and spread a curse. This is what i want in DA2, and Bioware can put there own spin on whatever they would do in DA2. Im not the best at ideas, but Bioware can execute it perfectly.

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We've only seen Desire and Pride demons able to possess the living in such a way as to not create a physical change in their host (Connor and Uldred). I'm guessing a Hunger demon doing the same would create the closest thing to a vampire in Thedas.