Twilight should burn forever in the pits of mega hell.KLUME777 wrote...
outlaworacle wrote...
You do realize Van Helsing is one of the worst films ever made though, right? Not like one of the worst vampire films, just one of the worst, ever, period.
I liked it.......but thats beside the point, i like there concept of vampires, much better than Twilight anyway....
KLUME777 wrote...
Russalka wrote...
Lord Gaider said there are no vampires in Thedas.
Edit: Closest we get to that is a hunger abomination. Who pretty much eats everything.
There are ways to get around this, Bioware can come up with something.
Modifié par outlaworacle, 02 octobre 2010 - 05:27 .
KLUME777 wrote...
Old, but powerfull and charming.In Vampire lore, they enthrall any one in there presence, they are attractive and seductive, even if they are old.
TheMufflon wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
In Vampire lore, they enthrall any one in there presence, they are attractive and seductive, even if they are old.
That really depends on what you mean by vampire "lore". If you look at the old slavic myths about vampires, attractive and seductive really couldn't be further from the truth.
Modifié par thegreateski, 02 octobre 2010 - 05:35 .
Well if there are lesbian vampires...that means there must be...Viva la France wrote...
i want lesbian vampires then
outlaworacle wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
Russalka wrote...
Lord Gaider said there are no vampires in Thedas.
Edit: Closest we get to that is a hunger abomination. Who pretty much eats everything.
There are ways to get around this, Bioware can come up with something.
Right, but that's not much of an argument, not to be rude. That could apply to anything. Companies backtrack over their own lore to add things all the time. Hell, in comics there is even a word for it: retcon. The question is, why would they?
"because I think it would be cool" is not much of a reason.
KLUME777 wrote...
A lot of the time in the lore, it is
Modifié par TheMufflon, 02 octobre 2010 - 05:59 .
KLUME777 wrote...
Quite the contrary, "it would be cool" is exactly the reason. There not going to stop vampires because of a damn codex. Hell, if the Qunari get Horns, then DA2 gets vampires. Gaider said, Qunari get horns because its cool. And it doesnt have to be retcon, they can figure out a way. Just because it wasnt in the first one doesnt mean it cant be in the second.
You're not paying attention are you?KLUME777 wrote...
outlaworacle wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
Russalka wrote...
Lord Gaider said there are no vampires in Thedas.
Edit: Closest we get to that is a hunger abomination. Who pretty much eats everything.
There are ways to get around this, Bioware can come up with something.
Right, but that's not much of an argument, not to be rude. That could apply to anything. Companies backtrack over their own lore to add things all the time. Hell, in comics there is even a word for it: retcon. The question is, why would they?
"because I think it would be cool" is not much of a reason.
Quite the contrary, "it would be cool" is exactly the reason. There not going to stop vampires because of a damn codex. Hell, if the Qunari get Horns, then DA2 gets vampires. Gaider said, Qunari get horns because its cool. And it doesnt have to be retcon, they can figure out a way. Just because it wasnt in the first one doesnt mean it cant be in the second.
TheMufflon wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
A lot of the time in the lore, it is
My point is that there isn't one specific "vampire lore". There are plenty of visions of what vampire are and should be. There's the sort of modern idea of sexy, immortal predators; there's Twilight vampires; There's "classical" vampires based on Bram Stoker's Dracula (the book, not the movie); and there are the original myths and folklore that inspired the early vampire novels. All of these present widely different versions of what a vampire is.
....this.habitat 67 wrote...
I hope if there's a vampire his battlecry could be "Suck it!"
Why do demons seek to possess the living?
History claims they are malevolent spirits, the first children of the Maker, angry at their creator for turning from them and jealous of those creations he considered superior. They stare across the Veil at the living and do not understand what they see, yet they know they crave it. They desire life, they pull the living across the Veil when they sleep and prey on their psyche with nightmares. Whenever they can, they cross the Veil into our world to possess it outright.
We know that any demon will seek to possess a mage, and upon doing so will create an abomination. Most of the world does not know, however, that the strength of an abomination depends entirely on the power of the demon that possesses the mage. This is true, in fact, of all possessed creatures. One demon is not the same as any other.
Demons can, for instance, be classified. Enchanter Brahm's categorization of demons into that portion of the psyche they primarily prey upon has held since the Tower Age.
According to Brahm, the weakest and most common of demons are those of rage. They are the least intelligent and most prone to violent outbursts against the living. They expend their energies quickly, the most powerful of them exhibiting great strength and occasionally the ability to generate fire.
Next are the demons of hunger. In a living host they become cannibals and vampires, and within the dead they feed upon the living. Theirs are the powers of draining, both of life force and of mana.
Next are the demons of sloth, the first on Brahm's scale that are capable of true intelligence. In its true form, this demon is known as a shade, a thing which is nearly indistinct and invisible, for such is sloth's nature. It hides and stalks, unaware, and when confronted, it sows fatigue and apathy.
Demons of desire are amongst the most powerful, and are the ones most likely to seek out the living and actively trick them into a deal. These demons will exploit anything that can be coveted—wealth, power, lust—and they will always end up getting far more than they give. A desire demon's province is that of illusions and mind control.
Strongest of all demons are those of pride. These are the most feared creatures to loose upon the world: Masters of magic and in possession of vast intellect, they are the true schemers. It is they who seek most strongly to possess mages, and will bring other demons across the Veil in numbers to achieve their own ends—although what that might be has never been discovered. A greater pride demon, brought across the veil, would threaten the entire world.
--From The Maker's First Children, by Bader, Senior Enchanter of Ostwick, 8:12 Blessed.
thegreateski wrote...
You're not paying attention are you?KLUME777 wrote...
outlaworacle wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
Russalka wrote...
Lord Gaider said there are no vampires in Thedas.
Edit: Closest we get to that is a hunger abomination. Who pretty much eats everything.
There are ways to get around this, Bioware can come up with something.
Right, but that's not much of an argument, not to be rude. That could apply to anything. Companies backtrack over their own lore to add things all the time. Hell, in comics there is even a word for it: retcon. The question is, why would they?
"because I think it would be cool" is not much of a reason.
Quite the contrary, "it would be cool" is exactly the reason. There not going to stop vampires because of a damn codex. Hell, if the Qunari get Horns, then DA2 gets vampires. Gaider said, Qunari get horns because its cool. And it doesnt have to be retcon, they can figure out a way. Just because it wasnt in the first one doesnt mean it cant be in the second.
Early concept sketches of the Qunari had them with horns (and lizard skin). They're just going back to the look they originally had for the Qunari.
outlaworacle wrote...
Also, because *you* would think it is cool is not the same thing as Bioware thinking it would be cool. As it stands, the lack of "proper" vampires in Thedas seems rather deliberate.
outlaworacle wrote...
Actually the reasons Qunari horns were taken out is the same reason playable elves have itty bitty elf ears instead of the real thing; they didn't want to retrofit every piece of headgear in the game to accomodate one character's unique head model. The Qunari were conceived as a horned race but that was taken out to suit the game's budget. Now it is added back in. So there were more considerations than "coolness" at play.
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