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So, how does The Maker looks like? Will we ever know?

Débuté par Lord_Valandil , oct. 02 2010 07:40

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:40

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We don't know anything yet, maybe he doesn't exist, maybe he does, but still, maybe the devs won't show him at all.
So, during a little lunch break at college, I drew a few concepts of The Maker, I know, I know...please, don't make fun of my drawings, I know I'm no Aimo, and also...they were made in less than fifteen minutes, that's why they look kind of rushed.
So, the first idea, is that The Maker looks like an elf, and, who knows? Maybe he'll provide a priiiiize to the elves, when he returns. Only if he does, of course.
Second idea, a human. He has a crown, or something like that...it was intended to be a sort of helmet, and I gave him a beard (because beards are epic, obviously), also...because many gods have beards. Even God has a beard, thus, the Maker has one too.
The third idea, a tainted/corrupted Maker. Don't take this one seriously...I just wanted to make something "cool", but I think it's way off the track.
And the fourth...that's the ender of Hope. The one who feds on our tears and uses our grief to power his coffee machine. The true Maker, so to speak.

Any opinions?

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:41

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How can something that doesn't exist have an appearance?

**** the chantry

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:42

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I'd rather never find out. The whole Andraste-religion being a large faith and allowing people multiple viewpoints on it adds a sense of realism instead of having everything confirm the Maker as being true.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:42

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

We don't know anything yet, maybe he doesn't exist, maybe he does, but still, maybe the devs won't show him at all.
So, during a little lunch break at college, I drew a few concepts of The Maker, I know, I know...please, don't make fun of my drawings, I know I'm no Aimo, and also...they were made in less than fifteen minutes, that's why they look kind of rushed.
So, the first idea, is that The Maker looks like an elf, and, who knows? Maybe he'll provide a priiiiize to the elves, when he returns. Only if he does, of course.
Second idea, a human. He has a crown, or something like that...it was intended to be a sort of helmet, and I gave him a beard (because beards are epic, obviously), also...because many gods have beards. Even God has a beard, thus, the Maker has one too.
The third idea, a tainted/corrupted Maker. Don't take this one seriously...I just wanted to make something "cool", but I think it's way off the track.
And the fourth...that's the ender of Hope. The one who feds on our tears and uses our grief to power his coffee machine. The true Maker, so to speak.

Any opinions?

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Before atheist zealot jump on you, I want to answer your question.

There may be a custom of non-idol worship in the Chantry... Similar to the mainstream Monothestic religions.... So that is one of the reasons why there is no depiction of the maker.....


EDIT: Assuming there IS a maker, I would daresay that he MAY look like a Dragon....

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ErichHartmann
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:44

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I believe The Maker is too abstract to resemble anything tangible. The Maker can be whatever he/she wants.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:47

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Wouldn't revealing the Maker's appearance (to say nothing of confirming his existence) kind of defeat the purpose of depicting a realistic faith in the world of Dragon Age? The whole point is that there isn't explicit proof that they aren't full of crap. And they might be.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:49

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd rather never find out. The whole Andraste-religion being a large faith and allowing people multiple viewpoints on it adds a sense of realism instead of having everything confirm the Maker as being true.


Hmmm...I think that I agree with this, Dave.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:50

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The nature of FAITH demands belief in something of which no proof exists. Once existence is substantiated Faith is a meaningless term.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:55

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SirShreK wrote...

The nature of FAITH demands belief in something of which no proof exists. Once existence is substantiated Faith is a meaningless term.


I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their faith become stronger if their god does manifest himself?

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:57

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

The nature of FAITH demands belief in something of which no proof exists. Once existence is substantiated Faith is a meaningless term.


I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their fate become stronger if their god does manifest himself?


Would you still call it Faith then?

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:58

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SirShreK wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

The nature of FAITH demands belief in something of which no proof exists. Once existence is substantiated Faith is a meaningless term.


I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their faith become stronger if their god does manifest himself?


Would you still call it Faith then?


Faith, not fate. My mistake.
Well...yes, I'd still call it faith.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:58

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their fate become stronger if their god does manifest himself?


It's not faith if the Maker is confirmed to exist. It's worship. Somebody couldn't be going "The Maker doesn't exist." and such because it's confirmed.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:59

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

The nature of FAITH demands belief in something of which no proof exists. Once existence is substantiated Faith is a meaningless term.


I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their faith become stronger if their god does manifest himself?


Would you still call it Faith then?


Faith, not fate. My mistake.
Well...yes, I'd still call it faith.


Speaking in terms of definition, I would not... But everyone to their tastes I guess...

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:00

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Maker.....He created the golden city right?And it seems that he doesn't like mages because he made them the first darkspawn.....so he is a templar :D i would say picture 2

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:01

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

I don't know.
Don't believers hope to reunite with their god after death? Wouldn't their fate become stronger if their god does manifest himself?


It's not faith if the Maker is confirmed to exist. It's worship. Somebody couldn't be going "The Maker doesn't exist." and such because it's confirmed.


Ohhh...damn, I feel silly.
Must read an English dictionary. Now.

vakarian1111 wrote...

Maker.....He created the golden city
right?And it seems that he doesn't like mages because he made them the
first darkspawn.....so he is a templar :D i would say picture 2


This, I forgot...what happens with the Golden City, then?
Because it does exist, right?

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:06

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd rather never find out. The whole Andraste-religion being a large faith and allowing people multiple viewpoints on it adds a sense of realism instead of having everything confirm the Maker as being true.


Knowing that the Maker exists does not mean folks will worship him...humanity has turned its back on him once already

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:09

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Wouldn't such a rigid definition of faith mean people in heaven (hypothetically) are all faithless? That seems a little odd.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:11

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He/She/It could look like the flying spaghetti monster, or Jesus, or Yaweh/Allah/Jehovah, Buddah, Kali, Odin, or L. Ron Hubbard. That as well as the Maker's existence is up to your own interpretation of Thedas and your own RL religion if you have one. I prefer to think that David Gaider left it ambiguous on purpose. I myself take intelligent design with a grain of salt so if I were to apply this to Thedas maybe the combination of all the races of Thedas or maybe just raw energy.

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[quote]vakarian1111 wrote...

Maker.....He created the golden city
right?And it seems that he doesn't like mages because he made them the
first darkspawn.....so he is a templar :D i would say picture 2[/quote]

[/quote]Lord_Valandil wrote...
This, I forgot...what happens with the Golden City, then?
Because it does exist, right?[/quote]


[/quote]
Maker cursed the Tevinte mages(who tried to get alive to the Golden City...heretics :P) and created from them the darkspawn and the Golden city is now named Dark City and its sort of a capital to the darkspawn.Golden city supposed to be like Heaven but now its hell :devil:

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:13

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vilnii wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd rather never find out. The whole Andraste-religion being a large faith and allowing people multiple viewpoints on it adds a sense of realism instead of having everything confirm the Maker as being true.


Knowing that the Maker exists does not mean folks will worship him...humanity has turned its back on him once already


The Chantry says he turned his back on his creations.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:18

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I think that it's best if the Maker stays faceless. I agree with Dave of Canada, it is more believable the way they have it. If they bring in the Maker then it'll just turn DA2 into something odd for me.



That's just my opinion anyway, lol.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:19

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I doubt he even exists. Just like every religion, the Chantry has zero proof

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:20

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DarthCaine wrote...

I doubt he even exists. Just like every religion, the Chantry has zero proof

Exactly.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:31

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If The Maker exists in the DA verse then I suspect that it does not have a form.

That or he looks like Morgan Freeman.

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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:33

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thegreateski wrote...

If The Maker exists in the DA verse then I suspect that it does not have a form.

That or he looks like Morgan Freeman.

Yes.
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