joriandrake wrote...
the presence of afterlife already makes it clear that someone had to make it and get it to work
No it doesn't.
That's
like saying "the presence of trees makes it clear that someone made
them and got them to work". It simply isn't self-evident just from the
fact of its existence.
General Malor wrote...
What about the Urn of Sacred ashes? Proof that Andraste's remains were blessed by the Maker to have holy effects and heal the sick.
Or proof that someone, perhaps even one of her followers, magicked-up her ashes and turned her into a "healing potion". Or lingering effects of magic used in an attempted resurrection. Or Andraste's latent magical abilities. Or perhaps they aren't even her ashes at all -- just some ashes that someone casted a spell on and said were hers. There are several plausible explanations that don't require inventing a supreme being -- the means to explain it exist in the halls of any Circle Tower.
Once you week through the lies and what not it would seem that at least the Chantry got it right that there was a being known as Andraste, there was a Golden City(Which you can see whenever you enter the fade so IT IS there and is real...as real as anything in the fade is), that humans entered the Golden City turning it black(which again you can see from the fade)...
Actually I haven't seen any proof that it used to be a Golden City, and even if it was, that doesn't mean that it turned black for the reasons that the Chantry say.
... and that there is a Maker.
Which follows from what? Neither the existence of the Black City, nor the magical effects of Andraste's ashes are any proof whatsoever of The Maker's existence. It is only proof of the Chantry's ability to explain things in the context of their own religion. The Black City has existed for ages upon ages -- The Chantry just invented a story about it that backs up their dogma. The people who made it up may even believe it, but that doesn't make it true.
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