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[Tigress M]

I purchased Awakening when it first came out months ago, played it once and set it aside.  Now I'm back, and after a few hours of playing, I am finding it much more enjoyable than my first go at it.  Perhaps it's because I know more what to expect or perhaps Origins is finally losing some of its glamor after so many months of playing.  I don't know, but I do know I'm having a blast!  
Anywho, consider this thread a sort of journal of my experiences as I play.  I figured this might be better than starting 15 threads about all the weird stuff I've noticed, silly things I've done, or questions I have.  

Please, please feel free to share your experiences as well.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

First off, does anyone else think Verel looks like he's just drank from the chalice during every Joining Ritual?  His eyes always roll up in his head and it just freaks me out.  

My first confusion came when I decided to buy the respec tomes from Wade.  I used one on my Warden and couldn't figure out A) why clicking the + button didn't seem to do anything and then why new actions started showing up in my Action Bar.  After longer than I care to admit, I finally figured out that the game had defaulted my PC to auto-level.  Ugh!

When faced with the question of where to send our soldiers, this time around I chose the farms.  It will be interesting to see how that changes things since last time I chose to protect the trade routes.  I just couldn't do the trade thing this time because I found I really don't like Woosley.  She annoys the heck outta me. 

I don't have anything to click on in the castle to talk to Anders yet (like the keg for Oghren or the picture for Nathaniel).  I can't remember if that's normal or bugged, does anyone know?

And lastly, for now, I just went down to the basement and came across the dog.  I tried (and failed since I'd respec'd without adding points to Survival) to comfort her.  I found the note, quest updated, can't click on the dog.  I'll have to make sure I have higher Survival next time 'cause I'd like to see what I missed by failing.

[Elhanan]

I also protect the trade routes, but I do this for the merchants and my own soldiers; not Woosley. Her arguements overheard while walking into the hall do seem sound however, and I have heard that overextended supply lines have done in some fairly mighty armies in our own past.

I believe Anders objects are scattered about outside of the main hall. He may be spoken to during the Nobles party, though. be sure to make a hard save before the party to switch options for how to deal with the news, too.

I believe I read the dog may be used as an XP expolit. However, as the entire quest he is in may be exploited for much more XP, it is not really needed.

[Tigress M]

Well, we'll see how protecting the farms vs the trade routes affects the game. This time around I did do the "Far Afield" quest first (even before recruiting Nathaniel), hoping to be able to save the people on the farm, but no such luck. I'm now wondering if I do the nobles party and then send soldiers to the farms before doing this quest, if that will help. I might try that next playthrough.

Dagnabit, I didn't speak to him during the nobles thingy. Guess that will be something to add to my list of what to do *next* time 'round.

I'm not interested in the XP exploit as I came into Awakening at level 25 and am using the Random Age mod that gives me more things to kill and therefore more XP. I did read that by not being able to comfort the dog I lose out on a couple points of approval with Nathaniel, but nothing else. However, next time, I'll be sure to keep my survival skill so I can see how that plays out.

[this isnt my name]

First time playing it, finished it, was dissapointed,sigruns quest glitched and never happened, and I couldnt get Ogherns approval high enough, so I couldnt complete his quest. I fapproval means that much they should let me get more gifts in the game, or give me more dialouge with him.

[MB957]

I mostly enjoyed Awakenings. I have yet to get sigruns quest to happen. I ran a marathon through amaranthine with her in my party, went everywhere, tried all levels of approval ratings etc, still nothing. I've played through Awakenings about 10 or 15 times and still have never found mischa and sigruns quest. Only twice was I able to get oghrens quest to open. One part I enjoy is the escape from the silverite mines. As for the trade routes or farms, I always say "do our best to protect all" and it seems to work out fine.





I still need to learn about these "mods" people keep talking about. What are they? how do they work? where do I learn about them?

[Greed1914]

MB957 wrote...

I mostly enjoyed Awakenings. I have yet to get sigruns quest to happen. I ran a marathon through amaranthine with her in my party, went everywhere, tried all levels of approval ratings etc, still nothing. I've played through Awakenings about 10 or 15 times and still have never found mischa and sigruns quest. Only twice was I able to get oghrens quest to open. One part I enjoy is the escape from the silverite mines. As for the trade routes or farms, I always say "do our best to protect all" and it seems to work out fine.


I still need to learn about these "mods" people keep talking about. What are they? how do they work? where do I learn about them?

Just go to the "Projects" tab up at the top on this site.  There are a lot of mods that people have made, and it's relatively simple to implement them.  Some of them are simple things like new textures, some are new equipment, some are new quests.  I don't use them extensively since I prefer to leave the game mostly unaltered.  About the only one I use a lot was a mod to use the sword from the Berserk manga, since my character's combat style was based on the main character of that manga to begin with.

[Tigress M]

this isnt my name wrote...
First time playing it, finished it, was dissapointed,sigruns quest glitched and never happened, and I couldnt get Ogherns approval high enough, so I couldnt complete his quest. I fapproval means that much they should let me get more gifts in the game, or give me more dialouge with him.

My frustration with Oghren is that his approval is set back to zero and yet when you give him gifts, you only get the bare minimum approval increase (1 for basic gifts, 6 for special).  So, they wiped all the approval you had in DA but left the approval modifiers... makes no sense. 

@MB - also check out Nexus.  I was very leery of mods at first, but I've grown to love 'em. 

[this isnt my name]

Tigress M wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...
First time playing it, finished it, was dissapointed,sigruns quest glitched and never happened, and I couldnt get Ogherns approval high enough, so I couldnt complete his quest. I fapproval means that much they should let me get more gifts in the game, or give me more dialouge with him.

My frustration with Oghren is that his approval is set back to zero and yet when you give him gifts, you only get the bare minimum approval increase (1 for basic gifts, 6 for special).  So, they wiped all the approval you had in DA but left the approval modifiers... makes no sense. 

@MB - also check out Nexus.  I was very leery of mods at first, but I've grown to love 'em. 

My main problem is a limited number of gifts, with little effect, and specific places for dialouge, if you make one mistake or miss somewhere you are screweed at getting him to a high enough approval. I hope what happens with his family dosent transfer, and im not replaying I got all the choices I wanted, so no real point. (well except for paying the dark wolf then him not doing anything... I regret wasting my gold)

@MB sigruns quest is glitched, it wont work if you start or finishthe quest "law and order"... Which is bad, considering that was one of the first quests I got.

[Elhanan]

Tigress M wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...
First time playing it, finished it, was dissapointed,sigruns quest glitched and never happened, and I couldnt get Ogherns approval high enough, so I couldnt complete his quest. I fapproval means that much they should let me get more gifts in the game, or give me more dialouge with him.

My frustration with Oghren is that his approval is set back to zero and yet when you give him gifts, you only get the bare minimum approval increase (1 for basic gifts, 6 for special).  So, they wiped all the approval you had in DA but left the approval modifiers... makes no sense. 

@MB - also check out Nexus.  I was very leery of mods at first, but I've grown to love 'em. 

You could also bring some liquid refreshments, alsong with other gifts with you from Ferelden. I mean, for some reason I am already toting runes, diamonds, and other collectibles; might as well be hospitable, too.

[Tigress M]

Elhanan wrote...
You could also bring some liquid refreshments, alsong with other gifts with you from Ferelden. I mean, for some reason I am already toting runes, diamonds, and other collectibles; might as well be hospitable, too.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna try that next time around.  

[Tigress M]

So I headed to the Chasm to pick up Sigrun (I figured I'd get her early in the hopes I can trigger her personal quest this time around) and I found the bandits/outlaws/whatever having just hung someone with a note attached regarding infidelity. Is there any purpose to that little scene? I'm just curious since I didn't get a new quest or even a Codex entry for it.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Tigress M wrote...

So I headed to the Chasm to pick up Sigrun (I figured I'd get her early in the hopes I can trigger her personal quest this time around) and I found the bandits/outlaws/whatever having just hung someone with a note attached regarding infidelity. Is there any purpose to that little scene? I'm just curious since I didn't get a new quest or even a Codex entry for it.

I don't think so. I find it hilarious that some people can find time to hang people for this, while there is a darkspawn army right below them and a Bereskarn a few meters from them.
I don't think it served any purpose at all.

[DWSmiley]

No purpose that I have found. I, too, began saving Origins gifts for Awakenings, including some of the alcoholic variety. But it turns out Origins cocktails are just ordinary gifts to Oghren in Amaranthine, so you need to import a lot of gifts to make much difference.

p.s. I trust you know to watch out for the Silverite mines bug.

EDIT:  Tis curious the lynchers attack the Warden on sight .  It makes one suspect there was something more going on than punishing infidelity

Modifié par DWSmiley, 03 octobre 2010 - 03:46 .

[Tigress M]

@KoP - I know, that was my thought too... why on earth did they chose *that* spot to do a hanging?

@DW - Yes, I've heard of the bug but didn't experience it on my first playthrough. I save often so if I notice I don't have the peasant clothing on when I come to, I'll know to reload.

I decided I'd see why the LoD's had such a hard time going into Kal'Hirol through the front door. Didn't have any real trouble at all but I'm a Rogue with maxed out traps so those were a problem. However, I have noticed something funny going through the map "backwards"... I've just gotten to the Trade Quarter where you find the repair anvil. There is a broken axe next to it, but I seem to remember there being other broken pieces you pick up earlier on (if you're going through the map the "right" way). Anywho... I clicked on the repair anvil and got three repaired items instead of just the one. If I am right and there are other broken items I'll be finding along the way, I'm going to come back to the anvil and see if I can fix them again. LOL

[Reika]

I've played through Awakening twice and despite the fact I've played through Origins quite a bit more than that, I just can't bring myself to go through Awakening again because it seems so poorly put together.



I did like Anders, Nate and Justice. I'm tempted to just tell Velanna to kiss off though if I go through Awakenings a third time. Which I probably will to refresh my memory when I get to that in my fanfic.

[naledgeborn]

DAA isn't bad, just badly bugged and best played as Orlesian Warden. The thing that stands out to me the most as far as continuity defects is the conspiracy subplot. Why would the Banns want to assassinate the Hero of Fereldan (even more so if a Cousland). Seriously? Loghain Mac Tir and an Archdemon couldn't kill this dude and they think they'd fare better? It's an average expansion in my books.

[Reika]

naledgeborn wrote...

DAA isn't bad, just badly bugged and best played as Orlesian Warden. The thing that stands out to me the most as far as continuity defects is the conspiracy subplot. Why would the Banns want to assassinate the Hero of Fereldan (even more so if a Cousland). Seriously? Loghain Mac Tir and an Archdemon couldn't kill this dude and they think they'd fare better? It's an average expansion in my books.

I'll admit, that was one of the things that got me. My HNF put down Howe and Loghain, put Alistair on the throne and got married to him. Do they really think they're going to get away with that idiocy? And if they did manage to injur my character, how did they think they were going to escape their king's wrath?

And not just the king, I used as many of the positive persuasive options I could to build my Warden's armies, there's going to be a bunch of other angry people too if something happened.

Though admittedly I really liked how they did the Fade in DAA, far better than that awfulness in DAO.

[Obadiah]

Reika wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

DAA isn't bad, just badly bugged and best played as Orlesian Warden. The thing that stands out to me the most as far as continuity defects is the conspiracy subplot. Why would the Banns want to assassinate the Hero of Fereldan (even more so if a Cousland). Seriously? Loghain Mac Tir and an Archdemon couldn't kill this dude and they think they'd fare better? It's an average expansion in my books.

I'll admit, that was one of the things that got me. My HNF put down Howe and Loghain, put Alistair on the throne and got married to him. Do they really think they're going to get away with that idiocy? And if they did manage to injur my character, how did they think they were going to escape their king's wrath?

And not just the king, I used as many of the positive persuasive options I could to build my Warden's armies, there's going to be a bunch of other angry people too if something happened.

Though admittedly I really liked how they did the Fade in DAA, far better than that awfulness in DAO.

When that plot showed itself I expected something BIG. Clues to follow, persuasion checks, maybe a fancy schmanzy noble dinner where I sussed out the Bann's motives. Instead, I paid off the DA Shadow Broker and raided a farm.

Weak.

Modifié par Obadiah, 03 octobre 2010 - 05:36 .

[Reika]

Obadiah wrote...
When that plot showed itself I expected something BIG. Clues to follow, persuasion checks, maybe a fancy schmanzy noble dinner where I sussed out the Bann's motives. Instead, I paid off the DA Shadow Broker and raided a farm.

Weak.

Agreed, I was hoping for some actual politics.

[Elhanan]

I enjoyed DAA more as the main storyline progressed. Once I went more into the main side quests, things picked up for me.

[Tigress M]

@Reika - I can completely understand your feeling. Like I said in my OP, I played Awakening once months ago and was so disappointed with it that I just never could bring myself to play it again. However, since I'm also an achievement addict and have one last achievement to get for Awakening (siding with the Mother, I would guess), I decided I would give it another go. And I'm glad I did.

I think I'm really enjoying it this time around because I know what to expect, so I'm not hoping for things that just aren't ever going to pop up (like running into Alistair more than once, etc). So now, I'm playing it just for the novelty of playing something other than Origins for a few days and I'm finding it quite fun.

[Tigress M]

Woot! I got the Sigrun quest to pop. All I did was get her and then walk into town without stopping to take the quest (Law and Order) from the guard. Turned a corner and *poof* cutscene starts and I've got the quest. Now to see if I can get her approval up high enough so she'll talk to me about it. Not holding my breath since I already gave her soap on a rope away, not knowing it was one of her preferred gifts.

[Tigress M]

Yup, I know there are a ton of bugs, but I'm still enjoying this playthrough. Speaking of bugs... I just got done with the quest "A Day in Court" and ruled to let Ox go free. My codex updated the quest saying I'd had him imprisoned pending investigation. I've also seen a couple of typos in the codex entries (like "darkspawn next" vs the "darspawn nest" Sigrun stumbled into), so that tells me the game was obviously rushed since I haven't found a single typo in DA.

But despite all it's flaws I'm having a good time. Do I wish it was less buggy? Absolutely. Are the bugs depriving me of some entertainment? Not really -- finding them is it's own amusement, in a way.

So says the "glass half full" woman.

[Reika]

I can live with bugs and typos, I played WoW for 4 years after all.



It was just the lack of obvious planning and effort put into Awakenings. The side quests didn't make any sense and didn't really fit into the main quests the way Origins did.



But I'm glad you're having fun with your second playthrough.