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Second Playthrough of Awakening -- a running commentary


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#51
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Always do Blackmarsh last if you want Velanna and Sigrun to undergo their Joining.

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Thanks for confirming my fears, y'all. I'm going to go back and redo it... I know, I know, I could just take Elhanan's advice and not worry about it this playthrough, but I'm pretty compulsive about wanting to do this "right" so I can experience all of the quests. And while I completely agree with Reika, that same compulsion won't let me just blow her off... at least not in this playthrough.

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You should only have to replay the Silverite Mines. As soon as Velanna joins the party, go back to Vigil's Keep and do her Joining, then do the Mines.

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I thought you couldn't do Velanna's joining until the Mines were done? I wasn't given the option before then.

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I know from having just done them that she doesn't desire to be a GW until she sees she's not going to be able to free her sister, which is at the end of the mines. But, it wouldn't have mattered anywho... my last hard save (vs quick saves) was, *cringe* just BEFORE going into Kal'Hirol so... I get to do that map plus all of Wending Wood and Blackmarsh again. All because I'm anal retentive about this playthrough.

Ah well... it's not been ALL bad... I found a room in Kal'Hirol that I'd missed the first time around and got a new quest out of it. Plus, I'm getting more familiar with the maps, which should make subsequent playthrough's a bit easier (goodness knows I could almost go through DAO with my eyes closed after having run through that games sooooo many times).

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I swear there is a curse on my head that is determined to keep me from finishing this Awakening playthrough. First I do the recruitment quests out of order and decide to go back to my last hard save (just prior to entering Kal'Hirol, mind you) and replay the game so I can be sure to be able to make both Sigrun and Velanna Wardens.

Then, as if that's not bad enough, I went and made the mistake of clicking on a link without my virus scanner running and of course, picked up a nasty beastie that took a day to find and remove from my system. So... I'm *still* not caught up to where I was before I realized I couldn't make V a W -- I've got all of Blackmarsh facing me, again.

Anywho... enough of the ranting, I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. The first time I went through the Silverite Mines (which btw, I managed to do unbugged twice in a row), I came to a small room just before getting to the merchant and the chest full of all the things from our backpack. One of the things in this room is a locked chest which I opened without any trouble. However, on this second run-through, I'm told I need a key to open the chest. Where did I miss picking up this key? Anyone know?

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I've run into that a few times myself, I think there's a key in one of the initial rooms, it seems kind of random as to the spawn.

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Tigress M wrote...

I came to a small room just before getting to the merchant and the chest full of all the things from our backpack. One of the things in this room is a locked chest which I opened without any trouble. However, on this second run-through, I'm told I need a key to open the chest. Where did I miss picking up this key? Anyone know?

You get that key from Seranni (Velanna's sister) when she frees you from captivity. You have to pass the persuasion check on one of the responses when you first speak to her. Any other response and you don't get the key iirc.

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Terra_Ex wrote...
You get that key from Seranni (Velanna's sister) when she frees you from captivity. You have to pass the persuasion check on one of the responses when you first speak to her. Any other response and you don't get the key iirc.


That would be it!  The first time through I used the persuasion line but this last time, I didn't.  I'll remember this for the next playthrough.  Thanks!

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Reika wrote...

Once you recruit Justice, you end up sparking the final battle. I don't think Velanna is worth keeping anyway, Anders is a better healer and can do some decent damage as well if properly geared.

Edit: my bad, it's actually once all 3 main quests are complete that the final battle triggers.


Hey - just a little topic hijacking here.

With the tomes that reset your characters, how is any mage better at anything that another?  I mean, can't you reset Velanna to have the exact same specializations, stats, and spells as Anders?

I actually considered making Ogrhen a Sword n Shield Warrior for giggles.  Would he be any better or worse than Justice with a character reset?

I'm just sayin . . . I don't see how any character in Awakening is better than any other except the main.  This is not just @ Reika - a lot of people on the boards say things like "so and so is better than Bobby in Awakening."  I don't get it.

Modifié par Hanz54321, 09 octobre 2010 - 06:03 .


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Hanz54321 wrote...

Reika wrote...

Once you recruit Justice, you end up sparking the final battle. I don't think Velanna is worth keeping anyway, Anders is a better healer and can do some decent damage as well if properly geared.

Edit: my bad, it's actually once all 3 main quests are complete that the final battle triggers.


Hey - just a little topic hijacking here.

With the tomes that reset your characters, how is any mage better at anything that another?  I mean, can't you reset Velanna to have the exact same specializations, stats, and spells as Anders?

I actually considered making Ogrhen a Sword n Shield Warrior for giggles.  Would he be any better or worse than Justice with a character reset?

I'm just sayin . . . I don't see how any character in Awakening is better than any other except the main.  This is not just @ Reika - a lot of people on the boards say things like "so and so is better than Bobby in Awakening."  I don't get it.


I agree. I mean, if you aren't going to respec at all then yes, some characters could be considered better "built" and more appropriate for a certain playstyle. But once you respec, all characters are essentially blank slates with stats waiting to be distributed.

This is also true for Origins if you use the respec mod.

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Finally got Blackmarsh finished (again), and am now down with re-doing 10 hours of play. Woot!

And of course, I've got another question... I'm in the Deep Roads under Vigil's Keep and have come to the Circle of the Forsaken where one of the statues lights up when I depress the Tab key, as if I can interact with it. However, I can't seem to find any place to click on the statue. Am I missing the spot I need to click?

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Hanz54321 wrote...

Hey - just a little topic hijacking here.

With the tomes that reset your characters, how is any mage better at anything that another?  I mean, can't you reset Velanna to have the exact same specializations, stats, and spells as Anders?

I actually considered making Ogrhen a Sword n Shield Warrior for giggles.  Would he be any better or worse than Justice with a character reset?

I'm just sayin . . . I don't see how any character in Awakening is better than any other except the main.  This is not just @ Reika - a lot of people on the boards say things like "so and so is better than Bobby in Awakening."  I don't get it.


Statwise with the respec, they become the same, but you'll have to do a lot of fiddling with tactics. I found you can't keep them on default, otherwise it doesn't always work too well with the changed specs. Not just using the tactic slots to customize how they use their abilities.

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Nods. Oh - I'm a huge tactics manager. I never go with what the defaults are. I change everybody's tactics to fit my playstyle.

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Same here. The default tactics are usually a mess and result in a lot of friendly fire from mages.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Same here. The default tactics are usually a mess and result in a lot of friendly fire from mages.


Yeah, I noticed the mage tactics for the combat mages are whacked. The other characters aren't too bad for the most part.