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[Morwen Eledhwen]

Just finished my 2nd playthrough and once again Shale was absent from the post-coronation scene, as was Alistair. Morrigan wasn't there either, but that's kind of explainable as she said she was going to sod off as soon as she had her godspawn inside her. But my CE was expecting to see Alistair so that she could give him the task of organizing and leading a new generation of Grey Wardens while she went back to Par Vollen with Sten. Is he just not there, ever? (He wasn't there at the post-coronation scene of my last playthrough because he had died killing the Archdemon.) Is Shale not there because she is DLC and they didn't write anything for her at the end of the game? I wanted to invite her to travel with my CE so she could stay with her BF. . .

[Reika]

Shale should be there, not sure about Alistair since I've always made him king so he has to be there.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Arrgh. . .just found the answer on the Dragon Age Wiki: Shale does not appear in this scene for console players.


But okay, so another Epilogue complaint: Sten agreed to let my CE go home with him and told her to meet him by the docks when she was done being celebrated. She then invited Zevran to travel with her, said goodbye to everyone else (except Shale and Alistair) and left. But there were no epilogue panels that mentioned Sten or Zevran at all, not even to say that they traveled with the Warden. The Warden's panel only mentioned that she eventually traveled and that Alistair followed her --"for a while". But the Wiki does give a number of epilogue choices for both Sten and Zevran. Do they just get swallowed up in the Warden's panel if they travel with her?

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 03 octobre 2010 - 02:53 .

[Zjarcal]

I've gotten the missing Alistair issue too. I never make him king but he has shown up in the post coronation scene nonetheless. On my last playthrough though, he was AWOL. The only difference was that I didn't take him to the final battle with me. I'm not sure if that has an effect on him showing up or not at the post coronation. If it does and he doesn't show up just because I didn't take him with me, what an ass!



I'll try it again on my current playthrough since I don't intend to take him with me on the final battle again.



As for Morrigan, that's the way it's supposed to be. She vanishes right after the AD is killed. There is a semi-easter egg in there though. If you look closely, right beside Sten and Dog there is a small black dog that looks eerily similar to the dog Morrigan shapeshifts into if you refuse the DR. Perhaps she did stay for the celebrations after all.



Regarding the epilogue slides, I think that when you select the traveling option with more than one companion you may end up missing their slide as they conflict. So for example, if you selected to travel with Sten and no one else, you'll get his slide, but if you opted to travel with both Sten and Zev, you may not get their slides and get a generic one.



I'm not entirely sure though. Who your LI is may also influence this.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Zjarcal wrote...

I've gotten the missing Alistair issue too. I never make him king but he has shown up in the post coronation scene nonetheless. On my last playthrough though, he was AWOL. The only difference was that I didn't take him to the final battle with me. I'm not sure if that has an effect on him showing up or not at the post coronation. If it does and he doesn't show up just because I didn't take him with me, what an ass!

I'll try it again on my current playthrough since I don't intend to take him with me on the final battle again.

I also left him at the gates. I thought at the time that he didn't show up for the celebration because I had left him at the gates and he was sulking. Then my epilogue panel says that he left Ferelden to travel with "the woman he loves", so if he was sulking then (1) he got over it and (2) he totally didn't get my hints that I wasn't interested in continuing my relationship with him. 

As for Morrigan, that's the way it's supposed to be. She vanishes right after the AD is killed. There is a semi-easter egg in there though. If you look closely, right beside Sten and Dog there is a small black dog that looks eerily similar to the dog Morrigan shapeshifts into if you refuse the DR. Perhaps she did stay for the celebrations after all.

I wasn't at all surprised not to see Morrigan. I did note the dog but it looked a bit smaller than her shapeshift. I thought her shapeshift looked a bit like the Ranger's summoned wolf.

Regarding the epilogue slides, I think that when you select the traveling option with more than one companion you may end up missing their slide as they conflict. So for example, if you selected to travel with Sten and no one else, you'll get his slide, but if you opted to travel with both Sten and Zev, you may not get their slides and get a generic one.

I'm not entirely sure though. Who your LI is may also influence this.

I think I might have confused the game out of giving me a complete set of epilogue slides. My Warden did have a relationship with Alistair but after the events at Landsmeet, decided that she had gone off him. She didn't tell him "I think we should end this" but did tell him that she didn't think they had a future together. After Morrigan's offer, she allowed him to continue to think that they were in a relationship so it would be easier to convince him to do the DR, but she did not say "I love you" or use any reasons of affection or not wanting him to die as part of her argument. Once the DR was over, she then proceeded to leave Alistair at the gates and again, neglected to kiss him goodbye or say anything to him other than that she would be back and had no intention of dying. In the post-coronation ceremony, she told Anora she would travel and immediately thereafter went first to Sten to invite herself home with him, and then to Zevran (Alistair's rival for her affections, btw --she had to have "the jealousy talk" with both of them about it) to invite him along. He agreed, and she then looked for Alistair to say "thanks for everything, take care of yourself and the future Grey Wardens, maybe I'll see you around"; but he wasn't there. Oh well, she thinks, he'll figure it out. Evidently not. I wonder who told him where she'd gone? Bet it was Wynne, that busybody. . .

[thesuperdarkone]

Just found out something. If you leave Alistair at the gates but don't do the Ultimate Sacrifice yourself, then Alistair will DIE! So always take him with you if you aren't doing the sacrifice.

[Cauter]

you can get shale to appear on consoles. all you have to do is either kill Zevran or release him after you defeat the crows. then Shale will be where he was standing

[Morwen Eledhwen]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Just found out something. If you leave Alistair at the gates but don't do the Ultimate Sacrifice yourself, then Alistair will DIE! So always take him with you if you aren't doing the sacrifice.

I left him at the gates and killed the Archdemon myself but was not sacrificed because we did the DR. My epilogue panel says he survived long enough to travel with my Warden after the celebration, at least.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Cauter wrote...

you can get shale to appear on consoles. all you have to do is either kill Zevran or release him after you defeat the crows. then Shale will be where he was standing

Oh, interesting. I wish it didn't have to be one or the other, but if I lose Zevran in one of my playthroughs I'll look for her there. Thanks.

[Cauter]

no prob, i found out because i released him, too cool of a character to kill, but i used Leliana as my rogue. so he wasnt really needed

[ejoslin]

You only get companion epilogue slides about Morrigan and your love interest.

[thesuperdarkone]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Just found out something. If you leave Alistair at the gates but don't do the Ultimate Sacrifice yourself, then Alistair will DIE! So always take him with you if you aren't doing the sacrifice.

I left him at the gates and killed the Archdemon myself but was not sacrificed because we did the DR. My epilogue panel says he survived long enough to travel with my Warden after the celebration, at least.

 

Was he your LI?

[Morwen Eledhwen]

@thesuperdarkone: yes.

[Xephyr829]

Cauter wrote...

you can get shale to appear on consoles. all you have to do is either kill Zevran or release him after you defeat the crows. then Shale will be where he was standing

Was this on purpose or is it a bug that you have to have one or another ?

[caradoc2000]

Shale does not appear on consoles, regardless of what you do with Zevran (or anybody else for that matter).