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[LPPrince]

They got so much stuff incorrect, it seems they didn't even play Origins.



This preview sucks. Ignore it and move on.

[Wyndham711]

"it’s marred by many of the same flaws that plagued the first game; the excessive bloodiness, drab fiction and endless expanses of brown textures."

Blood is the visual que of the whole franchise, so there'd have to be quite a lot of it for there to be too much. The brownness is integral to the blightlands. But what strikes me most about this is:

1. DA:O had drab fiction?

2. DA2 is going to have drab fiction as well? Based on what?

[jsachun]

There are few of things I must disagree with the preview.

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

You could move the camera around in DA:O yet they reckon you couldn't. So they don't know DA:O very well or played with a very crappy computer which I must say will wreck the experience of all modern day games except maybe Tetris.

If Bioware wanted the game to be more immersive, then they should've taken the approch Betheseda did with the Fallout series and provided first person view as well as more dramatic & tantalising music & sound effects & a better play of light & dark in combat & sandbox scenarios.
I didn't think Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2 was very immersive at all. Well certainly no momments of heart shuttering or nervousness that I felt in some scenes in Fallout 3 as well as regrets for moral choices I've made earlier in the game.

Modifié par jsachun, 05 octobre 2010 - 08:27 .

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Another preview another mention of Mass Effect, gee noticing a trend here.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Thanks for posting the link OP.



As others have mentioned, I have to disagree with their assessment of DA:O, I thought the writing was the best part of the game. Also the wasteland style landscape in the DA 2 footage I've seen so far doesn't bother me, the comedic look of the darkspawn and weapons does. It's a shame though that they see the connection to Mass Effect, as alot of fans have been talking about for months now. Maybe after people get tired of that formula games styles will branch out along different paths again for each franchise instead of mutating into a universal one.

[TheMadCat]

I don't think the article was that negative, they didn't like the graphics and art style nor were they thrilled it was taking some elements down the Mass Effect road. They also liked a few of the ideas and praised it where they felt necessary. Just because they're not slobering over DA2 and BioWare like a teen staring at a naked supermodel doesn't mean their ripping it to shreds.

LPPrince wrote...

They got so much stuff incorrect, it seems they didn't even play Origins.

Aside from calling Mages  wizards exactly what did they get wrong?

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the
most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps
Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

More blood and gore? Origins was already pushing it to comical limits why in God's name do we need more blood and gore? And no, Origins did not have one of the "most astonishing scenery". It was very bland, very dull, very lifeless.

And what the hell does the sex scene have to do anything with the article?

[Aradace]

This article seems to be based off of the "older" screenshots. The new stuff actually looks really good IMO. The graphics were one of my chief concerns myself at first but now that we've seen some actual recent shots of it, I like it. Seems like this "bit tech" is yet another group of people writing articles about games that have no clue what they are writing about lol. But, in the words of Dennis Miller "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."



Personally, Im not going to trust anything anyone says in an article based off of "old" screenshots.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

As far as scenery goes I think DA:O was very much hit or miss but some of that seemed intentional. I didn't like the occaisional floating rock or tree placibles in many of the areas (that weren't the Fade). The Brecilian Forest Temple looked pretty awesome to me, so did the Cult temple in Haven and Ostagar. Lothering looked bad...but it was supposed to look like a run down refugee town and I wasn't a big fan of Orzammar, it seemed way too small and under-developed for the last known main settlement of the dwarves. Redcliffe's countryside seemed barren also, more trees would of been nice. I am not sure if the lack of trees around Redcliffe or Lothering were intentional for the sake of lowering lag or if the areas were rushed but both areas did seem lacking. Overall, I did like the look of the different locations in DA:O, it was nice scenery, not going to an over-the-top level unless it was warranted.

[jsachun]

TheMadCat wrote...

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the
most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps
Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

More blood and gore? Origins was already pushing it to comical limits why in God's name do we need more blood and gore? And no, Origins did not have one of the "most astonishing scenery". It was very bland, very dull, very lifeless.

And what the hell does the sex scene have to do anything with the article?

Very Bland & Very Dull indeed.

[Mordaedil]

ITT: Bioware Defense Squad.



This honestly is what it looks to be in the future when it comes to reviews for DA2. I'm sorry, I don't *get* DA2. I'll just avoid it like the plague it is.

[Dsentinel]

I found the article to be quite refreshing. I see it as a bunch of gamers who loved DA;O, but saw that it had the potential to be even greater. Then when DA2 was announced their hopes of seeing DA evolve into that greater thing, was crushed. I can understand their perspective but as always a preview is simply that, a preview. I have followed Bioware for a long time and I have faith in their style. What worries me is this; with EA behind the scenes pushing Bioware to put out more hit video games and reel in the cash, the quality is going to start to go downhill.

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Well, if it goes downhill, EA won't be reeling in the cash. They don't get to where they are today based on bad business decisions.

[Dsentinel]

jsachun wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the
most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps
Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

More blood and gore? Origins was already pushing it to comical limits why in God's name do we need more blood and gore? And no, Origins did not have one of the "most astonishing scenery". It was very bland, very dull, very lifeless.

And what the hell does the sex scene have to do anything with the article?

Very Bland & Very Dull indeed.

Sry to double post but I had to respond to this. All of those screenshots even with the last one having the added spell animation, still have a bland look to them. No matter the awesomeness of the architecture and design, the colors were still very pastel or just bland in general. My view is on the landscape and surrounding world, not just on the party members and the enemies. 

So yes Very bland & Dull indeed. 

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

jsachun wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the
most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps
Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

More blood and gore? Origins was already pushing it to comical limits why in God's name do we need more blood and gore? And no, Origins did not have one of the "most astonishing scenery". It was very bland, very dull, very lifeless.

And what the hell does the sex scene have to do anything with the article?

Very Bland & Very Dull indeed.

I love how you take a DA;O screen shot from one of the darker areas in the game to use as comparison. Way to go. 

[Dsentinel]

delete

Modifié par Dsentinel, 05 octobre 2010 - 09:03 .

[Icinix]

I'm a huge fan of Bit Tech because they're not to afraid to say what they think, they've given some great reviews on hardware over the years and some awesome game reviews, with that said though, we've all only seen that one play. The dirty barren mountains fight. I don't believe it will be until we start seeing other environments, e.g the city, that the true art style will come into play.

Everything they've said is pretty much what everyone else has said, the environment textures in that piece of game suck at this stage.



But BioWare don't know how to make a 'brown' game. Vibrant worlds are like their thing. So I ain't concerned. It would be like only showing some of the combat in the Deep Roads from DA:O.

[jsachun]

Dsentinel wrote...

jsachun wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

More blood & gore the better & DA:O was defintely one of the
most Astonishing Scenery wise at High Graphic Settings on PC. Perhaps
Bioware should've made the romance scenes at least R rated in DA:O.

More blood and gore? Origins was already pushing it to comical limits why in God's name do we need more blood and gore? And no, Origins did not have one of the "most astonishing scenery". It was very bland, very dull, very lifeless.

And what the hell does the sex scene have to do anything with the article?

Very Bland & Very Dull indeed.

Sry to double post but I had to respond to this. All of those screenshots even with the last one having the added spell animation, still have a bland look to them. No matter the awesomeness of the architecture and design, the colors were still very pastel or just bland in general. My view is on the landscape and surrounding world, not just on the party members and the enemies. 

So yes Very bland & Dull indeed. 

So what medieval kingdom had bright & colourful scenery & architecture? Perhaps DA:O should've been set in Time Sqaure New York with all the colourful advertising?

Modifié par jsachun, 05 octobre 2010 - 09:09 .

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

Or Tokyo, Japam with all the neon lights flashing. The look is just fine. The commoners just need to wear more plain-coloured clothes in shades of brown, green or grey.

[Lucy Glitter]

Wyndham711 wrote...

1. DA:O had drab fiction?
2. DA2 is going to have drab fiction as well? Based on what?

They insult the cult of Gaider.

We must apprehend these disrespectful cads.

[Icinix]

<_<  Anyone else want to quote the pictures?

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Ugh, don't need to read that review after seeing some of the comments people have pulled from it.



Really says a lot about them rather than it does the game. Perhaps they should stick to reviewing hardware rather than software and games they clearly know nothing about.



Off-Topic: @Jsachun that bottom pic is epic

[Karlojey]

I read the whole thing and I think the reviewers were over reacting a bit. It's a demo, so it's expected not everything is perfect. Plus they played the first part which was the part wherein the Hawke family was escaping the Blight in Lothering so it's expected to be bleak.

Anyway, I think we should all give this game a shot when it comes out. It's Bioware so at least we know it'll have a good story.

[Amioran]

the-expatriate wrote...

 Bit-tech doesn't have a whole lot that's nice to say. The many fanboys and fangirls may be disappointed... others may find themselves agreeing. It's a sharp critque, and not overly hopeful sounding; at least they're honest.

Yikes. Nevertheless, here it is.

To start with, criticism is sounded when it is founded on something, not on thin air. Elsewhere it is fanboism the same, of another sort.

A landscape that it is with less color doesn't mean it is "bland". People really understand anything at all about art. Do you call Millet "bland"? It depends on the setting and what the art direction wants to transmit. Not all backgrounds must be colorful to be good. But I suppose this idiocy comes from people that couldn't tell the difference from manierism and style. Sure, there are many places here were I live where "painters" do all colourful paintings for tourists (done always in the same manner), and that same tourists buy them too, thinkin of how "good" it looks. Color = well done, for the majority of people, it seems. Maybe they exchange Van Gogh for the color of the palette, who knows. Problem is: Van Gogh was "bland" too at beginning. Strong colors must serve to transmit an emotion (as in expressionism, see Soutine), elsewhere they serves nothing, and we return back to baroque.

Most of all they serves little if the theme they want to transmit is just that "hopelessness" that the blight brings. It can be done in other ways, sure, but I don't see anything wrong at all on trying to tie some emotions with particular color palettes, or lack thereof. Then for the "bland" I assume people want to see all kind of things everytime, also when there's no need of them, again, manierism.

Modifié par Amioran, 05 octobre 2010 - 09:33 .

[Loc'n'lol]

Golden-Rose wrote...

"Wizard"

*sigh*

"The Archdemon itself shows up"

*SIGH*

Yeah I facepalm'd as well. Stopped reading after the second time he mentioned the archdemon...
I don't know, maybe the horn-shaped hair wasn't a good enough clue and they need to literally write Flemeth in flaming letters on the dragon's back or somehting ?

[ProfessionalPirate]

dang, how do you post pics? I have one in mind that IMO proves DA2 isn't as bland as in the article