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[LobselVith8]

Utoryo wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
You mean we wouldn't imply that she's a follower, maybe even put her in her own video, if she wasn't going to be with you the entire game? I suppose that's true. We'd never do that.

Ah, so you'd actually try to replicate the Mhairi disappointment *on purpose*? I'm impressed; you truly are the tear master.

Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

[Morrigans God son]

I want to make Bethany a "MAY" be important character, when I borrow DA2.

She is a romance option right? xD

[Anarya]

YOU GUYS SAID that "family" and "death" are major themes in DA2. Not to mention Bethany's your personal tie to the Chantry vs. Mages conflict if you play a non-mage Hawke. So yeah, I expect she will be very important no matter what ends up happening to her.



But I still think she's a perma-companion.

[grillz]

Morrigans God son wrote...

I want to make Bethany a "MAY" be important character, when I borrow DA2.
She is a romance option right? xD

well that emperor in gladiator had a crush on his sister. lol

[David Gaider]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

[ViSeiRa]

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

What?  is it all shadow and legend that says that in some thread deep beneath the earth you said that the Magi boon would be turned down but still mentioned in the game.... that's what people say 

[Blastback]

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

I think that the poster in question is upset that in Awakening, the Circle wasn't free from Chantry rule, despite them bering granted independence by the Monarch.

[Blastback]

Anarya wrote...

YOU GUYS SAID that "family" and "death" are major themes in DA2. Not to mention Bethany's your personal tie to the Chantry vs. Mages conflict if you play a non-mage Hawke. So yeah, I expect she will be very important no matter what ends up happening to her.

But I still think she's a perma-companion.

Yeah, something to keep in mind is that there is a very large diffrence between the size of a charater's role and how important it is.  I could easily see Bethany having a smaller role but it being crucial to the story, or vice versa.  I'm hoping for large role, with a fair degree of importance.  And no torture or death.  But again, I'm biased.

[Utoryo]

David Gaider wrote...

Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

I think he's referring to the complete lack of impact from the circle independence boon in Witch Hunt (or is it just bugged? that'd be ironic, heh).

Myself I'm more annoyed the DAO/DAA epilogues in general are still so horribly broken in many ways. As an extreme example, if you are Alistair's mistress and he is the sole king, the epilogues assume you married Alistair to Anora, so post-DAO Anora is annoyed about you staying at court, while post-DAA you disappear along with Alistair even though he's King and you're Chancellor. Ah well, here's hoping the shorter development schedule of DA2 doesn't make these kinds of things even more frequent, good luck to you guys.

Modifié par Utoryo, 06 octobre 2010 - 05:12 .

[LobselVith8]

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

I meant that the Chantry turned down the Magi boon from DA:O.

David Gaider wrote...

Keep in mind, however, that the kingdom doesn't control the Circle of Magi. That conversation no doubt went a little like this:

King/Queen: "We would like mages in Ferelden to be free."
Chantry: "No."

I'm hoping Hawke might have an impact for mages in DA2.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

If a tree falls and kills Bethany, how did that tree get in the kitchen?


I think she'll be fairly imporant, but we have no way to know.  YET.  Personally, I'm wildly guessing that she's going to be a Bann Tegan sort of character.  She'll be off doing her own thing, but she'll still be there as a key part of the story.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 06 octobre 2010 - 05:23 .

[Herr Uhl]

LobselVith8 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

I meant that the Chantry turned down the Magi boon from DA:O.

David Gaider wrote...

Keep in mind, however, that the kingdom doesn't control the Circle of Magi. That conversation no doubt went a little like this:

King/Queen: "We would like mages in Ferelden to be free."
Chantry: "No."

I'm hoping Hawke might have an impact for mages in DA2.

You forgot this part of the post.

David Gaider wrote...

That said, the conversation doesn't necessarily stop there-- as you'll see. We can indeed pick up the boons the Origins player was granted and do intend to use them in the future.

Edit: Why cut that out, to make you seem more in the right or what?

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 06 octobre 2010 - 05:18 .

[LobselVith8]

Herr Uhl wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

I meant that the Chantry turned down the Magi boon from DA:O.

David Gaider wrote...

Keep in mind, however, that the kingdom doesn't control the Circle of Magi. That conversation no doubt went a little like this:

King/Queen: "We would like mages in Ferelden to be free."
Chantry: "No."

I'm hoping Hawke might have an impact for mages in DA2.

You forgot this part of the post.

David Gaider wrote...

That said, the conversation doesn't necessarily stop there-- as you'll see. We can indeed pick up the boons the Origins player was granted and do intend to use them in the future.

I didn't forget that part - I was asked what I was referencing. Therefore, I referenced the passage where the Chantry turns down the Magi boon from DA:O. And as we've seen from Witch Hunt, which is either one or two years later (depending on whether the advertisement or the in-game map is correct) templars still run the Circle of Ferelden. Again, I'm hoping DA2 allows us to rectify this.

[LobselVith8]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Edit: Why cut that out, to make you seem more in the right or what?

More in the right? I'm not sure I follow you here. The entire reason I included the link in my original, unedited post is because if anyone was interested in the thread in question, they could see it for themselves. As for being in the right, you have me at a loss. I'm not debating anything here, I made a small statement in reply to someone else, and I was asked to clarify it by another person, that's all.  End of story.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 06 octobre 2010 - 05:35 .

[Brockololly]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
She'll be off doing her own thing, but she'll still be there as a key part of the story.

Here we go with more baseless speculation- Hawke is off doing his thing and comes back to Kirkwall to find Bethany has gone to do her own thing. Time passes and Bethany is no where to be found. Hawke has to go questing to find Bethany. Hawke finds Bethany as a proud card carrying member of Flemeth's little apostate army we saw in the trailer. Bethany refuses to go back to Templar infested Kirkwall. Decision time for Hawke.

Modifié par Brockololly, 06 octobre 2010 - 05:31 .

[LobselVith8]

Brockololly wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
She'll be off doing her own thing, but she'll still be there as a key part of the story.

Here we go with more baseless speculation- Hawke is off doing his thing and comes back to Kirkwall to find Bethany has gone to do her own thing. Time passes and Bethany is no where to be found. Hawke has to go questing to find Bethany. Hawke finds Bethany as a proud card carrying member of Flemeth's little apostate army we saw in the trailer. Bethany refuses to go back to Templar infested Kirkwall. Decision time for Hawke.

Might the mage army try to take Kirkwall from the templars? That be a possible scenerio: warrior or rogue Hawke having to choose between his sister and a faction (possibly the templars themselves) opposed to the mage army.

[Herr Uhl]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Edit: Why cut that out, to make you seem more in the right or what?

More in the right? I'm not sure I follow you here. The entire reason I included the link in my original, unedited post is because if anyone was interested in the thread in question, they could see it for themselves. As for being in the right, you have me at a loss. I'm not debating anything here, I made a small statement in reply to someone else, and I was asked to clarify it by another person, that's all.  End of story.

But quote the whole post then, taking away that last part counts as misquoting. Would it be that much harder to leave that in there?

People have a tendency to quote things as they like by taking it out of context.

[grillz]

You've got to remember the Chantry is like the Medieval Catholic church, they don't answer to Kings or Queens. I'm sure the Chantry saw the report of what happened at the circle of magi and overlooked the queen/ king's request for the freedom of mage's.

[Bullets McDeath]

Herr Uhl wrote...

 quote the post then, taking away that last part. much harder to leave that in there.

People have a tendency to like taking.

I beg to differ, ser!

[LobselVith8]

Herr Uhl wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Edit: Why cut that out, to make you seem more in the right or what?

More in the right? I'm not sure I follow you here. The entire reason I included the link in my original, unedited post is because if anyone was interested in the thread in question, they could see it for themselves. As for being in the right, you have me at a loss. I'm not debating anything here, I made a small statement in reply to someone else, and I was asked to clarify it by another person, that's all.  End of story.

But quote the whole post then, taking away that last part counts as misquoting. Would it be that much harder to leave that in there?

People have a tendency to quote things as they like by taking it out of context.

And some people seem to start arguments for no reason, even with baseless accusations that have already been disproven. To clarify this, it doesn't count as misquoting when I'm personally asked what I'm referencing - the Magi boon being turned down - and I provide the quote where it's stated the Magi boon was turned down. I also provided a link to this thread, in case anyone else was interested in the topic that was discussed. There's no debate, there's no discussion, the post was intended to clarify why I said the Magi boon was turned down, and I provided it. You're completely off-base here, and you're detracting from the entire point of this thread - discussion about Bethany's role in DA2. Let's put this to rest.

[thegreateski]

Plot twist! Bethany is kidnapped by aliens after you escape Lothering. Shepard thought she was a deposit of Element Zero.

[Tamyn]

Hurrrr wrote...

/sigh, nobody think of Imoen?

My first thought actually. If there's a game with a (semi-permanent) sibling party member next time, I want a brother!

[AlexXIV]

She is a prologue character. Like the origins characters in DA:O or the ones from Ostagar. Even though Alistair stayed until the end (if you wanted). Chances are she will either die, disappear or go sit at a warm fire after Lothering.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 06 octobre 2010 - 06:47 .

[nightcobra]

it would certainly break some clichés if you're able to save all your family instead of them obligatorily dying

[Meltemph]

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or the disappointment over the Magi boon being turned down.

What does this even mean? I have no idea.

Pshh!  Double rainbow quality, DUH!