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[ashwind]

Harbinger indoctrinated (enhanced version) Ashley/Kaiden via direct control. Then let them loose They are working for the Reapers now!



Beware, they will backstab you in ME3, kill em the very moment you get the chance or the galaxy is lost.

[crimzontearz]

Uh....there are a LOT paralized colonists which you encounter while kicking collector's butt and they are obviously not getting harvested since you are massacring everyone....ashley was most probably one of those lucky ones.....or she has become a plot device for ME3

[Sajuro]

I personally favor the theory that says they were just to heavy for the Collectors to carry.

[Nhani]

StarcloudSWG wrote...
1/3rd. "Half the colony's in there!" from an obviously distraught guy who locked himself in the colony's power plant isnt' a reliable estimate.

Just you wait, soon enough someone cunning enough will produce an audio recording that goes "Horizon was a major victory. The Virmire Survivor got us one step closer to finding Shepard."

[BHRamsay]

What I want to know is if Kaiden is using an AR does he still have all the mods I had to throw into the thing so that he could hit the broad side of a barn in the ME1.

[Schneidend]

Collectors simply didn't grab them before you showed up.

[KenLyns]

Come to think of it, why didn't Kaidan just put up a biotic dome to protect himself against the swarms? "Any biotic could do it," at least for a while.  

Modifié par KenLyns, 07 octobre 2010 - 12:32 .

[TudorWolf]

1) If you watch that scene closely you'll see that Ash/Kaiden get frozen near that big door thing by the area where you get the collector beam rifle thing. Seeing as you find a few frozen colonists in the vicinity the VS obviously lucked out with location.



The real question is why they're nowhere to be seen when you pass through that area later. There's nowhere they could be hiding...



2) As for Mordin's seeker, seeing as they're machines, it's logical to assume he simply built it using Veetor's scan data.

[Lunatic LK47]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

1/3rd. "Half the colony's in there!" from an obviously distraught guy who locked himself in the colony's power plant isnt' a reliable estimate.

I'll trust a colony resident over Illusive Man, thanks.

[Zan51]

Perhaps it is simply that to make connections in the pod things - you know, those white, wormy looking things inside it, they need to NOT be wearing armor! Which means they would have to peel Kaidan/Ash outta armor before putting him/her into it - which means leave them till last.

[sevalaricgirl]

Kaidan shook off the attack with his biotics. Yes he was stung, but he is now a more powerful biotic, Staff Commander doesn't come easily (think about it). If biotics can stop the swarm when you're on the Collector base, then biotics could help him survive. Can't tell you about Ash. She died on Virmire. As for him not being taken, they didn't have time to take everyone and Kaidan got lucky.  Although, I do like the armor explanation too.

Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 10 octobre 2010 - 01:39 .

[Saibh]

They didn't manage to take everyone, and when you see people that are frozen, they usually have seekers buzzing all around them--I figured this meant the toxin or whatever they release needs to be repeatedly injected to keep you frozen. Once the Collector Ship left, the seeker swarms did, and the VS was able to move.

[Zan51]

Hmm, all I see on my pretty high end PC is a moving cloud of brownish kinda smoke moving round them, even when I stand right beside them. No seekers.

[Reika]

Zan51 wrote...

Hmm, all I see on my pretty high end PC is a moving cloud of brownish kinda smoke moving round them, even when I stand right beside them. No seekers.

Those are the seekers.

I think the seeker in Mordin's lab was constructed from Veetor's data, it was way bigger than the seekers released by the collectors.

And like much of what happened in ME2 I just accepted the handwavium for the VS to show up at a convenient time. Though Kaidan was the one I saved on Virmire so I just assumed it had something to do with his biotics.

[Gokuthegrate]

Shep's arrival to Horizon made the Collectors stop harvesting people before Ash Kaiden were taken.

[Tazzmission]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

Yes, Ashley was one of the first to be paralyzed in that particular part of the colony. But "first" doesn't necessarily mean anything. The colonists were dragged off in relation to their proximity to the Collector ships. The closest ones were taken first. Ashley could have been one of the further bodies, and then Shepard arrives and chases off the Collector ship.

you know. what if ashley all of a sudden becomes indoctrinated after being paralyzed from the swarms? what better way for an enemy to gain the upperhand by having someone close to your oppenent be the chess pice in the emotional chess game when it comes to info about shepard and his history with ashley?

[Zan51]

Neither VS is close to Shep in ME2, so the idea is not that useful.
Plus, just when was was there time for he/she to be indoctrinated since it takes days in the presence, or inside a Reaper, to become indoctrinated? There was no time for it to have been done. Granted Harbinger takes over his minions, but they are already indoctrinated, cloned, and cyber enhanced Prothean puppets, not a free minded Alliance, L2 at least, biotic, if it is Kaidan. Now, a common soldier like Ash.. is another matter....    /jk

[Chuvvy]

DarthCaine wrote...

Only 1/3 of the colony was abducted, Shepard disrupted their process

They were right there at the front. They were the first to get stung.

[uzivatel]

Zan51 wrote...

Perhaps it is simply that to make connections in the pod things - you know, those white, wormy looking things inside it, they need to NOT be wearing armor! Which means they would have to peel Kaidan/Ash outta armor before putting him/her into it - which means leave them till last.

Afaik, you can see armour pieces on some body parts in the Collector ship.

Maybe they were just lucky. They have been pretty lucky in the past - Kaiden could have died instead of Jenkins, Ashley could have died along with many other soldiers in her unit, they survived Virmire and the other ME1 events, they escaped SR1...

Modifié par uzivatel, 10 octobre 2010 - 09:45 .

[ObserverStatus]

Perhaps he/she was implanted with reaper tech and left behind as a sleeper agent?

[Zan51]

Uh hu... and just when did they have the time to do that either?    And return him/her to the planet, with no wounds and pain, or feeling as if anything had been done to him/her? Wishful thinking. And I don't want my LI messed about with by the Collectors or anyone, thanks. Mine! Not theirs, mine.

[ObserverStatus]

Zan51 wrote...
Uh hu... and just when did they have the time to do that either?    And return him/her to the planet, with no wounds and pain, or feeling as if anything had been done to him/her? Wishful thinking. And I don't want my LI messed about with by the Collectors or anyone, thanks. Mine! Not theirs, mine.

Reapers are magic.

[Zan51]

So is Shepard.