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[Faz432]

David Gaider wrote...

And when Duncan was named, he wasn't even brown. That came later.

Alistair got his name because "House Doctor" and "Cash in the Attic" were on TLC a lot at the time and I thought Alistair Appleton was kind of adorable.

How these names end up being appropriate? Call it cosmic influence if you like, I don't really know. I'm not sure why anyone would think I would lie about this-- would there be a problem if I did look up meanings to name a character?

I don't think anyone is saying that David, chillax.

I personally think it's cool that you'd go to the effort of researching names from folklore to use for your characters.

the_one_54321 wrote...

I think it's ironic that the name means invincible while the character was betrayed, captured and burned at the steak.

That would be where my awesome theory about DA comes in....

Modifié par Faz432, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:39 .

[Kileyan]

I would imagine it is more that he has named his characters after the characters of friends in past games(if he played pen and paper games). He likely didn't research the history of every name he picked out from his past, but those who named those characters likely did pick those names because of cool things, like the meanings you guys are all digging up. Err, hope that made sense.

[Creeper425]

I wonder where David got the name Oghren from. And generally alot of names fit the characters, except for Logain, who I kept wanting to call Kain. I wish they would make a new Legacy of Kain game but that is off topic wishing.

[David Gaider]

Kileyan wrote...
I would imagine it is more that he has named his characters after the characters of friends in past games(if he played pen and paper games). He likely didn't research the history of every name he picked out from his past, but those who named those characters likely did pick those names because of cool things, like the meanings you guys are all digging up. Err, hope that made sense.

Sure, but the characters they named had nothing to do with the characters in Origins. I used the name, not the character that originally had them.

So, again, a coincidence.

Faz432 wrote...
I personally think it's cool that you'd go to the effort of researching names from folklore to use for your characters.

Yeah, maybe that's just what I should have said. "Yup! Totally intentional! Awesome, eh?"

I'm not upset about anything, incidentally-- just that when people say "I don't believe you" it's a bit strange. I have no idea why someone would think I'd be deceptive about not doing as much research as people seem to think I did.

Modifié par David Gaider, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:42 .

[TheMadCat]

Who said you were lying? And no, no problem if you looked at all. I'm just kind of surprised you didn't since like I said there were a few direct connections.

[Champion1]

David Gaider wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...
Right, but they're not vague connections and associations, some of them actually directly reflect the character. I'm not calling David a liar, I'm simply saying there were a lot of coincidences. Like I noted above, Duncan being a Gaelic name meaning Brown Fighter, Dark Warrior, or whatever combo you'd like as they're interchangable isn't a vague connection. Duncan in literally a dark , brown skinned fighter.

And when Duncan was named, he wasn't even brown. That came later.

Alistair got his name because "House Doctor" and "Cash in the Attic" were on TLC a lot at the time and I thought Alistair Appleton was kind of adorable.

How these names end up being appropriate? Call it cosmic influence if you like, I don't really know. I'm not sure why anyone would think I would lie about this-- would there be a problem if I did look up meanings to name a character?

Fun fact: this is similar to how in Tolkien's lore, the name for the land Numenor was another name for Atlantis in some real-world cultures.  Tolkien said this was just a happy coincidence

Names are a lot more common, but it's still interesting.

Modifié par Champion1, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:42 .

[Merced256]

Creeper425 wrote...

I wonder where David got the name Oghren from. And generally alot of names fit the characters, except for Logain, who I kept wanting to call Kain. I wish they would make a new Legacy of Kain game but that is off topic wishing.

Seriously, its been like what? 5? 7 years now?

[Khylia Morgoth]

Champion1 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...
Right, but they're not vague connections and associations, some of them actually directly reflect the character. I'm not calling David a liar, I'm simply saying there were a lot of coincidences. Like I noted above, Duncan being a Gaelic name meaning Brown Fighter, Dark Warrior, or whatever combo you'd like as they're interchangable isn't a vague connection. Duncan in literally a dark , brown skinned fighter.

And when Duncan was named, he wasn't even brown. That came later.

Alistair got his name because "House Doctor" and "Cash in the Attic" were on TLC a lot at the time and I thought Alistair Appleton was kind of adorable.

How these names end up being appropriate? Call it cosmic influence if you like, I don't really know. I'm not sure why anyone would think I would lie about this-- would there be a problem if I did look up meanings to name a character?

Fun fact: this is similar to how in Tolkien's lore, the name for the land Numenor was another name for Atlantis in some real-world cultures.  Tolkien said this was just a happy coincidence

Names are a lot more common, but it's still interesting.

that is so true..... but non the les i still think it is just cool how some names have the meanings like this behind them, and David please keep up the awsome work, im not saying anything bad about any of this i was just trying to state that i found it awsome that i had found the information :happy:

[Stanley Woo]

Keep it on topic, please.

[this isnt my name]

The Spectaculous Goatman wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Champion1 wrote...
Fun fact: this is similar to how in Tolkien's lore, the name for the land Numenor was another name for Atlantis in some real-world cultures.  Tolkien said this was just a happy coincidence

You dare question Tolkien!? BLASPHEMER!!

Tolkien was an overrated hack.

How so ? I dont know much about what influenced him (apparently there is christian stuff in there, but I dont see it) aside from that, I dont know . So would be interesting to find what he was inspired by. Also for someone who is a "hack" he sure has shaped the fantasy world.

Ok on topic, I may have to read into the celtic stuff, I dont hear about it so I never considered reading it before, but it sounds pretty interesting. I knew Morrigan was like a celtic witch or something but thats about it.

Modifié par this isnt my name, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:55 .

[TheMadCat]

If you consider Tolkien an overrated hack, you know the man who pretty much defined the modern day fantasy genre I'd hate to see the harsh words you have for other writers, such as the BioWare staff.

And an on topic post to keep The Woo happy. Morrigan is another good example, based off of the Celtic Goddess Morrigane I could assume; a figure somtimes seen as a witch and a fighter, able to shape shift and appropritaly given the title "Queen of Nightmares."

Modifié par TheMadCat, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:57 .

[the_one_54321]

Stanley Woo wrote...
Keep it on topic, please.

Are you guys selectively censoring my branches of discussion today or am I actually being particularly bad about going off topic?

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

the_one_54321 wrote...

I think it's ironic that the name means invincible while the character was betrayed, captured and burned at the steak.

Stop pointing out facts!    These inane arguments only work when you point out the similarities and ONLY the similarities!

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 07 octobre 2010 - 12:37 .

[TheMadCat]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

I think it's ironic that the name means invincible while the character was betrayed, captured and burned at the steak.

STOP POINTING OUT FACTS!    These inane arguments only work when you point out the similarities and ONLY the similarities!

Dude, relax. We're having a bit of fun noting some of the similarities. No ones claimed every single name represents the respective character, only that there are some.

Or has the forum become a bastion of political correctness since my wondeful time away from it? Must every thread contain an equal and unbiased view of all the facts in order to not have people come in acting like dicks?

[Faz432]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

I think it's ironic that the name means invincible while the character was betrayed, captured and burned at the steak.

STOP POINTING OUT FACTS!    These inane arguments only work when you point out the similarities and ONLY the similarities!

Hey Jesus died on the cross, is he not supposed to be immortal?

Modifié par Faz432, 06 octobre 2010 - 11:21 .

[Knight Templar_]

I found a few things like that as I was going through Names for my Warden (ended up with Alanna).
It's very intresting, for example one of the sites I used said that Dane was a female name. WHich if memory serves makes sense, since a Dame was a female knight.

David Gaider wrote...


I'm not upset about anything, incidentally-- just that when people say "I don't believe you" it's a bit strange.

You'd never lie. You'd trick us with shady information, ambigous rubbish and a bit of semantics, but you'd never outright lie.
At least thats my impression of you.

Modifié par Knight Templar , 06 octobre 2010 - 11:50 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

TheMadCat wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

I think it's ironic that the name means invincible while the character was betrayed, captured and burned at the steak.

STOP POINTING OUT FACTS!    These inane arguments only work when you point out the similarities and ONLY the similarities!

Dude, relax. We're having a bit of fun noting some of the similarities. No ones claimed every single name represents the respective character, only that there are some.

Or has the forum become a bastion of political correctness since my wondeful time away from it? Must every thread contain an equal and unbiased view of all the facts in order to not have people come in acting like dicks?

:(  :D:D :P:P

[Ortaya Alevli]

Google says Wynne means "blessed" or "white" in Welsh.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Huh...that's odd. I could of sworn Morrigan was named after the celtic goddess(es), it fits so well in many ways if you read up on the mythology.
Well, we have caught Gaider in one lie!!! You don't symbolically name characters huh? Then what of Arl Foreshadow? Hah! Caught in your own tangly web you juggler of words and witticisms!

[DukeOfNukes]

I do have to admit, I should have known something was going to happen when Arl Loghain Feiger-Hund showed up at Ostagar.

[Argyle]

Tolkein went a little nuts with names and languages, but the naming system he developed had a definite musical quality and consistency that I have to admire. That might be something that could be worked into a DA2 subplot ... a young warrior on a quest to earn his adult name, etc.



Coming up with names is tough. I always use the same small set of them when I make game characters. The auto-name generators I've run across aren't satisfying at all.

[DukeOfNukes]

I generally find it hard to strike a balance between coming up with a name that "means" something, and having it come off as contrived. As a result, I usually have the hardest time naming characters/locations than anything else.



I mean...calling your character "Malcolm Ghandi King Jr" isn't exactly subtle.

[SteveGarbage]

David Gaider wrote...
Alistair got his name because "House Doctor" and "Cash in the Attic" were on TLC a lot at the time and I thought Alistair Appleton was kind of adorable.

Aha, but then is it a coincidence that Alistair's voice actor Steve Valentine was one of the patients on one episode Fox's medical mystery show "House" and that he was ironically a magician in that episode and Alistair is a templar who was learning to guard against magic? (Actually that is a somewhat funny coincidence)

Modifié par SteveGarbage, 07 octobre 2010 - 03:27 .

[PrincessRiku]

I just vote Gaider's a maleficar himself, because that much awesome with being spot on with naming on accident? Lol. There are unnatural things afoot.