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[SirOccam]

Wyndham711 wrote...

I dislike swearing. Especially when I explicitly hear it. Reading it I can swallow easier, but every single time I hear swearing it rubs me the wrong way. And if anything this is especially true in a fantasy game. I want tamer language in my fantasy RPGs, no matter how 'realistic' or dark their subject matter or style is otherwise. Tamer in the sense that there is little to none swearing, or if there for some strongly justified reason is, the words chosen are tame or specifically invented.

This is interesting to me. Have you thought much about why you dislike it so much? Just curious.

[EmperorSahlertz]

1: I don't want Varic to live past his interrogation

2: I don't want the mages to win

3: I don't want Carver to die.

[Chuvvy]

Esbatty wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

DLC that isn't the downloadable equivalent of being spit on.

But... some people like to be spit on.

Some people are idiots.

[Mage One]

Wow. When I started writing I thought I would just have a couple things to list. My apologies for such a long post. I really did like DA:O. Honest.

- I don't want an enormous looming danger that could have been solved by the hero of the first game creating a big dilemma because the hero from the first game has mysteriously disappeared.
- I don't want my mage to pick up a random two-handed sword and use it to kill a boss in a dramatic cut-scene. He's much too weak to swing a two-handed sword, and even if he wasn't, he wouldn't know what to do with it. In fact, I don't want my sword and shield warrior to grab a two-handed sword in a cutscene either. Sure, she'd know what to do with it, but she has a perfectly good longsword made out of starmetal that's likely a whole lot stronger than that random sword she picked up for no good reason.
- I don't want a flashy-looking deathblow mid-fight keeping me tied up pointlessly brutalizing a corpse when what I'd really like to be doing is taunting a monster to make it stop assaulting my poor mage. She's fragile.
- I don't want over the course of a game's narrative to find the love of my life and have us happily pledge to stay with each other after the war is done only to find she leaves inexplicably after a short period of time according to a five-word dependent clause in the epilogue. (Likely so the devs could introduce different characters in the expansion.)
- I don't want to read the description of an ability only to still be unsure of precisely how it works. In fact, I would prefer to have terms such as "small bonus" and "wider flanking angle" replaced with numbers. In general, I would like to avoid having such a lack of gameplay mechanics information given that I feel the need to alt+tab so I could look something up online. I mean, sure, I have the RAM, but really now.
- I don't want weapon skill sets to be identical across classes.
- I don't want my rogue with master stealth to be spotted by a random NPC as she makes her way to the back of a shop via the magic of cut-scenes.
- I would like the woman I just pointedly called a friend and nothing more to not confront me the next time we talk saying I need to decide between her and the woman I'm actively romancing. (Similarly, to not have her happily gush about my relationship with party member B one conversation, then, after I assure party member B she and I are just friends, have her confront me, heartbroken, about my "choice" the next time we talk.)
- I don't want to find halfway through the game that the order I chose to do the "free-roam" areas in was the wrong one, and now I'm stuck fighting hopelessly underpowered enemies for a significant chunk of the game.
- Near the end of the game, I would like a good amount of the dramatic element not to be taken away because the speech a character is giving is uncannily similar to the speech you would have heard from a another character had you made a different choice.
- I do not want to be the only person in the game that can have a romance. I would like to see gradual and developing emotions among my companions as well. (That means something a bit more substantive than Felsi.)
- I do not want to have to die to get the full epilogues for my companions. Dying's rather painful.
- I do not want to have to spend combat rogue talents to be able to open locks, which are not only unbreakable but also everywhere.

Modifié par Mage One, 10 octobre 2010 - 08:17 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Mage One wrote...
- I don't want an enormous looming danger that could have been solved by the hero of the first game creating a big dilemma because the hero from the first game has mysteriously disappeared.
- I don't want over the course of a game's narrative to find the love of my life and have us happily pledge to stay with each other after the war is done only to find she leaves inexplicably after a short period of time according to a five-word dependent clause in the epilogue. (Likely so the devs could introduce different characters in the expansion.)
- I would like the woman I just pointedly called a friend and nothing more not confront me the next time we talk saying I need to decide between her and the woman I'm actively romancing. (Similarly, not have her happily gush about my relationship with party member B one conversation, then, after I assure party member B she and I are just friends, have her confront me, heartbroken, about my "choice" the next time we talk.)

These seem to be suspiciously specific in their description.

[Mage One]

Er...do they?  I...um...that's odd.  I mean, they can be referring to anything!

In all seriousness, these (suspiciously) specific incidents speak to larger issues (a notorious trope used by many sequels, story-telling seeming to give way to expansion considerations, and serious bugs with the relationship system) I meant to convey I didn't want to see go unaddressed in DA2.  Yes, though, if those same exact things happen in DA2, I will probably rip my hair out.  Also, scream.

[RPGmom28]

Mage One, I encountered something very similar when my male elf warden who had romanced Zevran and refused Morrigan's ritual got a kiss from her in Witch Hunt and a conversation about "his" child. Also, a female warden of mine that was unfortunately lost on my old hard drive had Alistair sacrifice himself, and yet in Awakening she got a lovely epilogue about how she continued to travel with the man she loved, Alistair. Corpses get more mileage in Dragon Age, apparently.

[Befit]

I don't want some dwarf exaggerating my story . . . 

Modifié par Befit, 10 octobre 2010 - 12:56 .

[IndigoWolfe]

RPGmom28 wrote...

Corpses get more mileage in Dragon Age.

I need that on a t-shirt.

[mopotter]

RPGmom28 wrote...

mopotter wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...


I'd also like to seem them break away from the more minor "BioWare tropes", so to speak. DA:O and ME2 did a good job at deviating from the formula of KotOR and Jade Empire, I'd also like that to extend to some others that tend to pop up a lot, such as whiny male leads (I'm lookin' at you, Carth and Kaidan). I am excited to see how the framed narrative changes things up as well.

Personal preference.  Carth and Kaidan are not whiny.  I'll take a Carth, Kaidan or older Alistair any day over some obnoxious twit who thinks he's gods gift as a LI.     Actually I've liked most of the LI BioWare comes up with.  

Same here.  The only one I didn't like was Anomen, and that was a LONG time ago.

  I didn't care for Anomen either.  First the voice they gave him, and he just seemed a bit snooty or uppity to me, but that could have been the voice, whatever it was, I was not interested.  

[Reaverwind]

Befit wrote...

I don't want some dwarf exaggerating my story . . . 

Good thing Cassandra's there to ****-slap him into reality.  But I do hope the exaggerated sections are kept to a minimum. Having to repeat more than a couple of battles would quickly kill the fun.

[Xewaka]

I don't want to be forced to make an all mage party to optimize effectiveness.
I don't want mages hogging the Cleric role (I know this is unavoidable, as healing magic is for mages in this Lore. Still, I miss my support class).

Modifié par Xewaka, 10 octobre 2010 - 11:52 .

[Aradace]

Wyndham711 wrote...

I dislike swearing. Especially when I explicitly hear it. Reading it I can swallow easier, but every single time I hear swearing it rubs me the wrong way. And if anything this is especially true in a fantasy game. I want tamer language in my fantasy RPGs, no matter how 'realistic' or dark their subject matter or style is otherwise. Tamer in the sense that there is little to none swearing, or if there for some strongly justified reason is, the words chosen are tame or specifically invented.

Oh christ, another prude.  Tell you what, how about a "language filter" like the one they have in Gears of War 2?  Would that appease you? 

[Aradace]

PoopyStuff wrote...

I don't want immortal party members that heal all their hp 15 seconds after combat.

As my grandmother used to tell me "Wish in one hand, **** in the other and see which one fills up the fastest"  Seriously, if it bothers you that badly just dont play DA2 or any other RPG in the future for that matter and go back to playing pen and paper RPGs.

[Mr. Man]

I don't want to have to venture into the fade, but I think I've mentioned that already

[Aradace]

Mr. Man wrote...

I don't want to have to venture into the fade, but I think I've mentioned that already

gotta admit, the fade was pretty frickin' boring lol.

[upsettingshorts]

Fade in Origins <<<<< Fade in Awakening

Enough so that throwing away the concept would be rather foolish.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 octobre 2010 - 12:12 .

[Aradace]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Fade in Origins <<<<< Fade in Awakening

Enough so that throwing away the concept would be rather foolish.

As long as it's made "interesting" I wouldnt mind.  Im just sayin the Fade in Origins and even Awakening wasnt that great.

[Cancermeat]

I remember all the armor and weapons looked a lot a like in the first one. i know it takes up some memory, but you can be nice to the pc version, yes?

[Mr. Man]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Fade in Origins <<<<< Fade in Awakening

Enough so that throwing away the concept would be rather foolish.

If they could make it fun, I would have no objection. But it needs ALOT of work, both in DA:O and DA:A, if it were to continue. I still am totally cool with demons and stuff though, I think the whole Rage, Hunger, Desire, Pride Hierarchy was pretty interesting.

[Cancermeat]

I would rather have two or three BIG exspansions rather than a whole bunch of small offshoot dlc. Does anybody else feel that way too?

[Xewaka]

Mr. Man wrote...

If they could make it fun, I would have no objection.

You mean plowing around as a shapeshifting golem/burning man/mouse wasn't fun?

[Mr. Man]

Xewaka wrote...

Mr. Man wrote...

If they could make it fun, I would have no objection.

You mean plowing around as a shapeshifting golem/burning man/mouse wasn't fun?

not really, no. I found that level long, confusing and tedious.

[Mr. Man]

Cancermeat wrote...

I would rather have two or three BIG exspansions rather than a whole bunch of small offshoot dlc. Does anybody else feel that way too?

Yes, but next time they do an expansion I want a better premise than talking darkspawn. They should have had an expansion in Orlais, where you have to fight for/against the Dalish or something refreshing like that. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't really like Awakening.

[Cancermeat]

The problem I felt with Awakening is that a lot of the stories or quests seemed like they were cut in half or even more. Yes I thought that talking darkspawn was a contrived gimmic. I wish that the countess was more of a big deal, actually I wish all of the villians were a big deal. What I'm trying to say is that if we have to spend another forty bucks next time make it worth it. I wasnt fond of the new dialogue system where you have to look at a tree or something to get your companions to talk. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first person to complain about all this stuff so dont point the finger at me.