Would you have betrayed Liara if the choice had been her or the Shadow Broker's network?
#51
Guest_mashavasilec_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 09:52
Guest_mashavasilec_*
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#52
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:01
He. Sucks.
I have a better proposition, she's standing right there, and she's good for the next thousand years or so. And the first thing she's doing is changing the locks on the door.
#53
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:04
Liara's motives are known.
#54
Guest_Shandepared_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:14
Guest_Shandepared_*
Daewan wrote...
Seriously, you want to know if I would trust this total moron whose "impenetrable" network was found by the likes of Cerberus? Let me repeat that: Cerberus found him. The Humans who just entered the galactic stage broke a secret that's been around since the Dark Ages.
60 years.
Frankly rather than side with the Shadow Broker I'd prefer to give the ship over to Cerberus. Liara is nice and all, but she's not human.
#55
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:16
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Plenty of people gleefully stick it to Cerberus and fantasize about hurting TIM as much as possible.
Cerberus didnt do it for friendship.Also to order shepardt into a obvious trap(collector ship) did nothing to increase the trust.
Also lies(that liara works for the shadowbroker/dont know if this is somehow a mistake a writer made for whatever reason)
Modifié par tonnactus, 07 octobre 2010 - 10:17 .
#56
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:18
#57
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:19
Modifié par Pacifien, 07 octobre 2010 - 10:19 .
#58
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:21
Shandepared wrote...
Daewan wrote...
Seriously, you want to know if I would trust this total moron whose "impenetrable" network was found by the likes of Cerberus? Let me repeat that: Cerberus found him. The Humans who just entered the galactic stage broke a secret that's been around since the Dark Ages.
60 years.
Frankly rather than side with the Shadow Broker I'd prefer to give the ship over to Cerberus. Liara is nice and all, but she's not human.
The Yahg has been in charge for 60 years; he took it over from someone else. Barla Von implies that the network has been around for lifetimes. Liara implies that the SB ship is very old.
#59
Guest_Shandepared_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:24
Guest_Shandepared_*
Daewan wrote...
The Yahg has been in charge for 60 years; he took it over from someone else. Barla Von implies that the network has been around for lifetimes. Liara implies that the SB ship is very old.
Barla Von never says how long the Shadow Broker has been around. Everyone has always just assumed that he is ancient. I certainly did.
Tela Vasir is the one who finally puts his age in the "decades" range and then later we find out it has been around 60 years.
#60
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:29
Shandepared wrote...
Daewan wrote...
Seriously, you want to know if I would trust this total moron whose "impenetrable" network was found by the likes of Cerberus? Let me repeat that: Cerberus found him. The Humans who just entered the galactic stage broke a secret that's been around since the Dark Ages.
60 years.
Frankly rather than side with the Shadow Broker I'd prefer to give the ship over to Cerberus. Liara is nice and all, but she's not human.
Don't get upset. Liara has a history of working for Cerberus... So it's not just "nice and all".
I can understand TIM's being cautious about Shepard, though (even after sparing the C-Base). He has a history of working for the alien Council.
#61
Guest_Shandepared_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:31
Guest_Shandepared_*
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Don't get upset. Liara has a history of working for Cerberus... So it's not just "nice and all".
Yeah, but I want somebody who is going to use all of that intel for humanity's benefit. Liara will try to be "fair". We need a human running that network.
#62
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:32
Monday: Liara
Tuesday: Liara
Wednesday: Liara
Thursday: Liara
Friday: Liara and Shiala
What can you say? Power is sexy.
#63
Guest_Shandepared_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:34
Guest_Shandepared_*
#64
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:34
Whatever happened to do whatever was needed to stop the Reapers?
Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 octobre 2010 - 10:42 .
#65
Guest_Shandepared_*
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:37
Guest_Shandepared_*
Elite Midget wrote...
Whatever happened to do whatever was needed to stop the Reapers?
Most other renegades aren't as great as I am. I would pity them.
#66
Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 10:40
Shandepared wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Don't get upset. Liara has a history of working for Cerberus... So it's not just "nice and all".
Yeah, but I want somebody who is going to use all of that intel for humanity's benefit. Liara will try to be "fair". We need a human running that network.
Hey, it almost sounds like a Human as the Shadow Broker would be "unfair"!
Liara will do just fine... For now.
#67
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:43
#68
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:46
Cheese Elemental wrote...
I'd wouldn't want anyone else as the Shadow Broker. No one species should be dominant and Liara has more than proven that she's trustworthy.
The way I think of it is that she's utterly loyal to Shepard and will live for one thousand years. A younger lived species will die and create a crisis with galatic stability sooner. She also has more time to learn the ins and outs.
Modifié par Saibh, 08 octobre 2010 - 12:46 .
#69
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:49
Precisely. In addition, she's already been working as an information broker for a couple of years and even had the Shadow Broker spooked. I'd say anyone who's that good with information deserves the job.Saibh wrote...
Cheese Elemental wrote...
I'd wouldn't want anyone else as the Shadow Broker. No one species should be dominant and Liara has more than proven that she's trustworthy.
The way I think of it is that she's utterly loyal to Shepard and will live for one thousand years. A younger lived species will die and create a crisis with galatic stability sooner. She also has more time to learn the ins and outs.
Of course, it's a mixed blessing. She'll probably never have a normal life again.
#70
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:52
She did not have a normal life to start with=].Cheese Elemental wrote...
Precisely. In addition, she's already been working as an information broker for a couple of years and even had the Shadow Broker spooked. I'd say anyone who's that good with information deserves the job.Saibh wrote...
Cheese Elemental wrote...
I'd wouldn't want anyone else as the Shadow Broker. No one species should be dominant and Liara has more than proven that she's trustworthy.
The way I think of it is that she's utterly loyal to Shepard and will live for one thousand years. A younger lived species will die and create a crisis with galatic stability sooner. She also has more time to learn the ins and outs.
Of course, it's a mixed blessing. She'll probably never have a normal life again.
#71
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:55
Elite Midget wrote...
Whatever happened to do whatever was needed to stop the Reapers?
The Collecter base is techology - it isn't going to betray me. The people using it might, but that's something else entirely.
The Shadow Broker, on the other hand, is the son of a **** that tried to sell Shepard to the Collectors despite knowing what they were (and I wouldn't be surprised if he knew of a link to the Reapers - Cerberus figured it out, after all). Can't trust him any more than I could trust any of the other scum I've come across that try and sweet talk Shepard into letting them live.
Liara's proven herself loyal to Shepard and, if nothing else, is a known quantity. The most we know about the Shadow Broker is that we don't know anything about him.
#72
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:56
I mean she might not be able to live 'happily ever after' with Shepard or anyone else. She wouldn't have time for love or children.Some Geth wrote...
She did not have a normal life to start with=].Cheese Elemental wrote...
Precisely. In addition, she's already been working as an information broker for a couple of years and even had the Shadow Broker spooked. I'd say anyone who's that good with information deserves the job.Saibh wrote...
Cheese Elemental wrote...
I'd wouldn't want anyone else as the Shadow Broker. No one species should be dominant and Liara has more than proven that she's trustworthy.
The way I think of it is that she's utterly loyal to Shepard and will live for one thousand years. A younger lived species will die and create a crisis with galatic stability sooner. She also has more time to learn the ins and outs.
Of course, it's a mixed blessing. She'll probably never have a normal life again.
Bit of a kick in the nuts to Liara fans.
#73
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 02:25
He can't be trusted, so I CQC'd the crap out of him.
I will admit that I would have preferred the DLC have some moral dilemna, though, yes. Perhaps not the one you describe, Dean, but something would have been better than nothing.
#74
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 02:42
#75
Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 03:46





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