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[Xilizhra]

I quite liked her as a character, despite how little we know about her. It's a pity that we never get to see her again after the Landsmeet... I think she would have made an interesting party candidate if things had worked out a bit differently with Loghain somehow.

[Addai]

She's probably dead in a good number of games. I like her and then I don't. The way she talks both to me and to Alistair makes me want to smack her.

Modifié par Addai67, 07 octobre 2010 - 04:13 .

[Xilizhra]

A shame. Getting her to back down is quite rewarding (and the way Alistair talks about Loghain at the end of the Landsmeet feels rather smackworthy itself).

[KnightofPhoenix]

I like to think that she becomes the head of security in Gwaren, for my Consort PC who is also Teyrn of Gwaren. Yes, it is a shame that we don't see her during the battle for instance if she wasn't killed and if Loghain was spared.

[Xilizhra]

King-Consort or Queen-Consort?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Xilizhra wrote...

King-Consort or Queen-Consort?

King-Consort.
But this is not mentioned anywhere in the game, I made it up. Just what I like to think happens after the game.

[Xilizhra]

I have a story going where my city elf Warden ends up... ahem, bonding with Cauthrien after the archdemon is dead (the reasons are complicated and off-topic).

[Addai]

Xilizhra wrote...

A shame. Getting her to back down is quite rewarding (and the way Alistair talks about Loghain at the end of the Landsmeet feels rather smackworthy itself).

Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking?  Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

Sometimes I talk her down, sometimes I don't.  She does have some moving lines, but she has no right to interfere with you at the LM door so if she has to die, that's the way it is.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking?  Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

She is technically a knight, and you're an outlaw.

But yes she did overstep her bounds there. Loghain puts her back in her place though.

[Xilizhra]

Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking? Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

I'm going to guess that she's referring to accomplishment-based betters, not betters by blood.

[CalJones]

There's not enough of her in game for me to have any strong feelings either way. However, whilst I have killed her on a couple of occassions (that fight is pretty epic...has to be done at least once), these days I just surrender to her, then talk her down outside the Landsmeet.

[Addai]

Xilizhra wrote...

Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking? Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

I'm going to guess that she's referring to accomplishment-based betters, not betters by blood.

Yeah well, smack talk is smack talk.  The Warden has already accomplished quite a bit by that point.

I wonder if when she intercepts you at the LM door, if she is acting on Loghain's orders or if she's off the reservation at that point.  I could see it either way.

Modifié par Addai67, 07 octobre 2010 - 04:42 .

[Xilizhra]

I think she's acting on her own there, which may be one reason why she backs down.

[grillz]

I'd sleep with her

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
I wonder if when she intercepts you at the LM door, if she is acting on Loghain's orders or if she's off the reservation at that point.  I could see it either way.

It would be pretty stupid on Loghain's part to have both the Warden and Alistair be killed right outside the Landsmeet chamber. If he wanted them dead that badly, he wouldn't have accepted the Landsmeet in the first place. He accepted to settle this by Landmseet so it wouldn't look like he is afraid. Killing you outside the Landsmeet will do just that.

So I think Cauthrian was acting on her own accord.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 07 octobre 2010 - 04:45 .

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I wonder if when she intercepts you at the LM door, if she is acting on Loghain's orders or if she's off the reservation at that point.  I could see it either way.

It would be pretty stupid on Loghain's part to have both the Warden and Alistair be killed right outside the Landsmeet chamber. If he wanted them dead that badly, he wouldn't have accepted the Landsmeet in the first place. He accepted to settle this by Landmseet so it wouldn't look like he is afraid. Killing you outside the Landsmeet will do just that.

So I think Cauthrian was acting on her own accord.

Well as you pointed out, he considers you brigands.  You don't think Loghain would just as well have it done one way or another?  He could easily try to paint it as the Warden's outlawry.  I also get the impression Cauthrien doesn't do anything unless Loghain tells her to.

OTOH, she is so loyal to him that this could be the one time she decides to take matters into her own hands.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
Well as you pointed out, he considers you brigands.  You don't think Loghain would just as well have it done one way or another?  He could easily try to paint it as the Warden's outlawry.  I also get the impression Cauthrien doesn't do anything unless Loghain tells her to.

OTOH, she is so loyal to him that this could be the one time she decides to take matters into her own hands.

If Loghain can easily kill you just outside the Landsmeet on charge of being an outlaw, then he didn't need to accept the Landsmeet in the first place. It would make him look very bad.

Notice how he doesn't even order your immediate execution if you surrender yourself to Cauthrien (or get beaten) in Howe's estate. As he would most probably try to put you on trial and then execute you so it doesn't look like he is eliminating his chief opponents before a Landsmeet.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 07 octobre 2010 - 04:56 .

[Sarah1281]

Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking? Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

Yeah, that's annoying but it seems kind of petty to kill her for it.



And given how completely unsurprised Loghain is to see you at the Landsmeet, he either had no idea or fully expected Cauthrien to get herself killed. I can't see him having her make a suicide attack like that and then never even mentioning it.

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Who is she to call my Warden "churl" and tell me that my betters are talking? Especially since she comes from commoner roots herself?

Yeah, that's annoying but it seems kind of petty to kill her for it.

And given how completely unsurprised Loghain is to see you at the Landsmeet, he either had no idea or fully expected Cauthrien to get herself killed. I can't see him having her make a suicide attack like that and then never even mentioning it.

I don't kill her for it.  I kill her for... trying to kill me.

[Mister Mida]

I never managed to persuade her to stand down at the Landsmeet, but I always take great pleasure in killing her.

[blothulfur]

Never knew you could meet her twice she always died at howe estate, would anybody realistically surrender after seeing howes dungeon.

[Xilizhra]

I would, upon seeing the size and toughness of her guard force.

[Addai]

Xilizhra wrote...

I would, upon seeing the size and toughness of her guard force.

You would have to reckon with certain death either way.  If you surrender, you can reckon with a bit of torture as well.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai, your avatar is very pleasant to look at lol just wanted to say that.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 07 octobre 2010 - 05:46 .

[Sarah1281]

blothulfur wrote...

Never knew you could meet her twice she always died at howe estate, would anybody realistically surrender after seeing howes dungeon.

What does Howe's dungeon have to do with it? It's his personal dungeon that doesn't necessarily reflect on anywhere you're going and Howe's dead so he won't have a say in what happens to you.