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[Spawnfreak73]

Brain draining sexual predator, or victim of her own DNA? What do you think?

[Auzden]

i cant tell if she really has feelings for shep or if shes just like any other addict

[kglaser]

Samara's other two daughters are Ardat-Yakshi, and they behave themselves. Morinth's just a !@#$%.

[Spawnfreak73]

yorkj86 wrote...

They are both figures who appeal directly to the player's own morality.  They also challenge the player to roleplay Shepards who have differing moral systems, especially Shepards whose moral systems are different from the player's.  They are both intentionally written to be as equal as possible in their circumstances.

I don't like Morinth.  She would be a more sympathetic figure if she didn't kill.  If she took a moral stand like that, it would give me pause in my assessment of her situation.

Yeah she should do the whole Dexter thing and seduce murderers and rapists. Wait that might make her worse.

[GodWood]

Spawnfreak73 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
They are both figures who appeal directly to the player's own morality.  They also challenge the player to roleplay Shepards who have differing moral systems, especially Shepards whose moral systems are different from the player's.  They are both intentionally written to be as equal as possible in their circumstances.
I don't like Morinth.  She would be a more sympathetic figure if she didn't kill.  If she took a moral stand like that, it would give me pause in my assessment of her situation.

Yeah she should do the whole Dexter thing and seduce murderers and rapists. Wait that might make her worse.

Why would that be worse?
Its much better then what she does now.

[Sand King]

yorkj86 wrote...

Auzden wrote...

i cant tell if she really has feelings for shep or if shes just like any other addict

I dunno, man.   Look at this face and tell me that you really think that Morinth means well.

Death by Sun-Snu.
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I actually like Morinth, she is a really interesting character.

[NICKjnp]

You always beat me to the punch Sand King.

[Brass_Buckles]

I've never recruited Morinth, and the only way I would is if I were playing a pure renegade--which would mean that recruiting Samara would be foolish at best in the first place.



There's no good in Morinth. Even if her DNA influences her, she is a sapient being and thus not bound to instinct. She enjoys the hunt and the kill, pure and simple. She's worse than a mad dog--the mad dog can't help itself, but she most likely can. She just doesn't. If you don't seduce her, I'm sure she'll behave herself as long as she's on your ship, but the moment the mission ends, watch out.



As for Samara's other daughters, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think she killed them, too. But there's something fishy about Samara, to me. She doesn't appear to be Ardat-Yakshi because she's clearly not sterile (she had daughters). And yet... Didn't some NPC mention wine made by the Ardat-Yakshi? They're very powerful biotics, and they'd probably make great Justicars if they were under control.

[GodWood]

yorkj86 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Spawnfreak73 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
They are both figures who appeal directly to the player's own morality.  They also challenge the player to roleplay Shepards who have differing moral systems, especially Shepards whose moral systems are different from the player's.  They are both intentionally written to be as equal as possible in their circumstances.
I don't like Morinth.  She would be a more sympathetic figure if she didn't kill.  If she took a moral stand like that, it would give me pause in my assessment of her situation.

Yeah she should do the whole Dexter thing and seduce murderers and rapists. Wait that might make her worse.

Why would that be worse?
Its much better then what she does now.

Maybe because it'd be feeding her dangerous addiction, which also happens to make her more powerful with each victim she kills.  It's a great risk to take.

Would you say its a..... heavy risk?

[Gibb_Shepard]

She was born with the disease, sure it's not her fault, but she has to deal with it. She should have done the responsible and moral thing like her sisters, but she chose not to. I feel no sympathy for her.

[Snowship]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

She was born with the disease, sure it's not her fault, but she has to deal with it. She should have done the responsible and moral thing like her sisters, but she chose not to. I feel no sympathy for her.

Agreed.
The 1st victim MAY have been an accident (if she didn't know she had the condition), any after that she made the CHOICE to do it.
So her line with Samara "I didn't choose to be what I am... Mother!" was a lie. Not outright, sure she was born with the condition, but her actions after she knew what she can do were her choice.

Thus she is now a sexual predator.

From her conversations she takes delight in hunting and "devouring" her vitims. All her feigned innocence due to her condition is an act.

Not to say my Renegade Adept didn't recruit her, or that my upcoming Renegade Vanguard won't either (although in that playthrough she like all bar DLC characters will not survive the SM)...
Just that she is what she is and not to be justified/dismissed away (sorry couldn't think of the right terminology Edit: nearest term I can think of atm is: sugarcoated)

Modifié par Snowship, 08 octobre 2010 - 07:24 .

[AntiChri5]

Morinth would have been more interesting if she attempted to excuse her actions by claiming that Nef experienced more pleasure in that fatal moment then she would in the rest of her life.

[GodWood]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
She was born with the disease, sure it's not her fault, but she has to deal with it. She should have done the responsible and moral thing like her sisters, but she chose not to. I feel no sympathy for her.

Well it should be noted that the 'responsible and moral thing' is a lifetime (1000+ years) of isolation and chastity.

Thats not an easy thing.

[ObserverStatus]

But she didn't experience pleasure. When she was killing Shepard, he looked like he was in pain.

[GodWood]

Thats Shepard's orgasm face.

[JRCHOharry]

She had such an amazing voice actress. It's a shame it went to waste on a "secret" party member.

[Barquiel]

wasted potential...

Morinth's a very interesting character, way more interesting than some of the other squadmates we have to recruit. Too bad her content is short

[Ulathar]

Barquiel wrote...
wasted potential...

Morinth's a very interesting character, way more interesting than some of the other squadmates we have to recruit. Too bad her content is short

This 100%!
I hope there will be more Morinth in ME3, but considering the small amount of people who'd recruit her, I can't see it happening.

[Neria Rose]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I've never recruited Morinth, and the only way I would is if I were playing a pure renegade--which would mean that recruiting Samara would be foolish at best in the first place.

There's no good in Morinth. Even if her DNA influences her, she is a sapient being and thus not bound to instinct. She enjoys the hunt and the kill, pure and simple. She's worse than a mad dog--the mad dog can't help itself, but she most likely can. She just doesn't. If you don't seduce her, I'm sure she'll behave herself as long as she's on your ship, but the moment the mission ends, watch out.

As for Samara's other daughters, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think she killed them, too. But there's something fishy about Samara, to me. She doesn't appear to be Ardat-Yakshi because she's clearly not sterile (she had daughters). And yet... Didn't some NPC mention wine made by the Ardat-Yakshi? They're very powerful biotics, and they'd probably make great Justicars if they were under control.

This is exactly what I love about her. No remorse. None of that I'm-a-bad-person-but-you-can-reform-me nonsense. It's one of the reasons I love Palpatine. There seem to be so few characters across all genres who are cruel simply because that's what they desire and enjoy.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 08 octobre 2010 - 11:35 .

[TheodoricFriede]

Morinth is a psychopath clear and simple.

I do however believe Ardat Yakshi are mistreated by the asari. Being imprisoned for your sickness is inexcusable. It would be like imprisoning AIDs patients.

[Icinix]

TheodoricFriede wrote...

Morinth is a psychopath clear and simple.
I do however believe Ardat Yakshi are mistreated by the asari. Being imprisoned for your sickness is inexcusable. It would be like imprisoning AIDs patients.

No, it's like giving a compulsive murderer a choice.

- Fight your condition and you can be treated well and live in a closed society and perhaps even have the chance to do some good.
- Or we can kill you and end your ability to torment and take lives.