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Mage's Independence bugged
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Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 04:04
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The script is bugged for some reason. Irving gives the wrong response when I get independence for the mages and neither does Dagna's epilogue pick it up. Will this affect DA2 when I transfer this save into the game and not pick up on my boon for autonomy?
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Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 03:13
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It did it again, this is becoming a big problem. Does anyone have a clue whatsoever as to why it keeps ignoring the boon for the mage's independence; anything at all?!
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Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 04:59
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Good point, i've noticed when I play awakenings after, it is as if there has been no change regarding the chantry's hold over the circle.
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Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 05:07
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It's been explained by Gaider. The link is around somewhere.
Basically, it makes sense. The crown of Ferelden has no control over the Chantry, which is what has control of the mage circles. So, the king/queen of Ferelden has no right to release mages from Chantry authority.
Basically, it makes sense. The crown of Ferelden has no control over the Chantry, which is what has control of the mage circles. So, the king/queen of Ferelden has no right to release mages from Chantry authority.
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Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 05:19
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Awakening has nothing to do with it. I mean when you are givin a boon I asked for the mage's independance but when I talk to Irving he doesn't acknowledge it like he usually does and when I go to epilogue it does show the the templars leaving the tower.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 03:23
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Please if the devs or anyone in bioware is reading this then you must realize how serious this is and that something needs to be done about it!
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Posté 03 novembre 2010 - 09:18
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fix fix fix fix fix fix!!!!!!
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Posté 04 novembre 2010 - 02:54
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Didn't I explain this already?
Yes, I thought I did.
Doesn't work, can't happen. It would be like the President of the US declaring that Catholic priests can marry. He doesn't have the right or the power to do this.
The ruler of Ferelden doesn't have the authority to do this, so it doesn't happen.
Get it now?
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It's been explained by Gaider. The link is around somewhere.
Basically, it makes sense. The crown of Ferelden has no control over the Chantry, which is what has control of the mage circles. So, the king/queen of Ferelden has no right to release mages from Chantry authority.
Yes, I thought I did.
Doesn't work, can't happen. It would be like the President of the US declaring that Catholic priests can marry. He doesn't have the right or the power to do this.
The ruler of Ferelden doesn't have the authority to do this, so it doesn't happen.
Get it now?
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Posté 04 novembre 2010 - 02:33
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I'm sorry but how can you not understand what I'm saying? You do get an epilogue in origins saying that the mages get their independence whether or not it doesn't happen in Awakening or da2. My concern here is whether or not they would mention this boon of choice or not because of this bug.
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Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 02:19
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Antares1987 wrote...
I'm sorry but how can you not understand what I'm saying? You do get an epilogue in origins saying that the mages get their independence whether or not it doesn't happen in Awakening or da2. My concern here is whether or not they would mention this boon of choice or not because of this bug.
Are you not getting what I'm saying?
That boon does not happen - epilogue slide or no epilogue slide. It is not a bug, not a glitch, it is not the fault of Awakening. It will never be mentioned, never come true, you wasted your boon by asking for something that the ruler of Ferelden CAN NOT GIVE YOU.
It's nice to ask for, but it doesn't actually happen. They do not get their independence. Sad, but true.
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Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 03:21
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I'm aware that they don't get their independence but the epilogue slide still exist but it's not showing because of some bug
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Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 06:41
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TJPags wrote...
Antares1987 wrote...
I'm sorry but how can you not understand what I'm saying? You do get an epilogue in origins saying that the mages get their independence whether or not it doesn't happen in Awakening or da2. My concern here is whether or not they would mention this boon of choice or not because of this bug.
Are you not getting what I'm saying?
That boon does not happen - epilogue slide or no epilogue slide. It is not a bug, not a glitch, it is not the fault of Awakening. It will never be mentioned, never come true, you wasted your boon by asking for something that the ruler of Ferelden CAN NOT GIVE YOU.
It's nice to ask for, but it doesn't actually happen. They do not get their independence. Sad, but true.
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It does come up, actually.
Keep in mind, however, that the kingdom doesn't control the Circle of Magi. That conversation no doubt went a little like this:
King/Queen: "We would like mages in Ferelden to be free."
Chantry: "No."
That said, the conversation doesn't necessarily stop there-- as you'll see. We can indeed pick up the boons the Origins player was granted and do intend to use them in the future.
Have I gotten through to you yet? If we're not able to get that epilogue slide for the mage's independence then it won't be mentioned at all in DA2; this issue needs to be resolved!
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Posté 11 novembre 2010 - 07:07
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Just making sure this post isn't forgotten. Wow; a month has already passed by
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 12:02
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Since it doesn't functionally destroy gameplay, I wouldn't hold my breath. In fact, even if it does...like some glitches do...and they aren't being addressed either, all I can say is that you'll be waiting forever.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 01:14
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Since it doesn't functionally destroy gameplay, I wouldn't hold my breath. In fact, even if it does...like some glitches do...and they aren't being addressed either, all I can say is that you'll be waiting forever.
It could affect your save when you transfer it to DA2 because it might not pick up on your boon for independence and Mike Laidlaw informed me that he's gonna get people to look into it so now I can exhale.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 07:13
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I can only pray they will. I've been a Bioware supporter extreme for years. My old self has been referring thier games to lots of younger folks that would enjoy them, but if this constant bug unfix continues, I have stopped. (Iwill/I have). I'd like to believe they stand behind their product but I've become jaded. The problems plaguing the 360 version have mostly never been addressed. I got the PC version and found out how badly. It's very sad.
Maybe the game will transfer bits, but look at how it worked in ME1 to ME2. It was nearly irrelevant. Nearly. shrug. I don't know what's happening there. I want to see a lot more than "say so" and promises before I'll believe anything again.
Maybe the game will transfer bits, but look at how it worked in ME1 to ME2. It was nearly irrelevant. Nearly. shrug. I don't know what's happening there. I want to see a lot more than "say so" and promises before I'll believe anything again.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 11:45
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Did you make Alistair king by any chance? I know there's a bug where if you ask him for the dwarf boon (send troops to help Orzammar) the plot flag doesn't set. As a result you don't the epilogue slide and obviously the choice won't be carrying forward into Awakening / DA2. This is a shot in the dark, but maybe all the Origin specific rewards are bugged with Alistair?
The plot flag does set properly w/ Anora though.
The plot flag does set properly w/ Anora though.
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Posté 15 novembre 2010 - 07:56
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I can only pray they will. I've been a Bioware supporter extreme for years. My old self has been referring thier games to lots of younger folks that would enjoy them, but if this constant bug unfix continues, I have stopped. (Iwill/I have). I'd like to believe they stand behind their product but I've become jaded. The problems plaguing the 360 version have mostly never been addressed. I got the PC version and found out how badly. It's very sad.
Maybe the game will transfer bits, but look at how it worked in ME1 to ME2. It was nearly irrelevant. Nearly. shrug. I don't know what's happening there. I want to see a lot more than "say so" and promises before I'll believe anything again.
I don't believe any of the devs would give an empty promise like that but I may be too much of an optimist and as to whether the boons be irrelevant or not I would still like to see how they play out in the Dragon Age series as would probably many other fans.
