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[steelfire_dragon]

really now what was wrong with her??

she's no Jaheira sure but she was akewl kind of character in a what the hell is wrong with you kind of way.

[Lintanis]

 Cant see Morrigan coming back till DA3 but the fade will definitely be in DA2 

[ViSeiRa]

I hate Morrigan, my warden stabbed her in most of my playthroughs and if by a fat chance my Hawke encounters her he'll stab the hell out of her too.

[uuuhcantthinkofaname]

I stabbed Morrigan and she WANANANANA'd backwards into the mirror.



Wonder how that will change things, maybe a mention of it somewhere.

[Lord Gremlin]

I liked her. My favorite character in DA. Well, the only one I didn't wanted to kill. She's a perfect villain's sidekick.

[Vicious]

the game flirts with the idea that maybe all chosen ones were great because they bloody well worked at it.

Hell yeah

[Balvale]

KJandrew wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

God please dont add another sloth demon boss fight, I hated that quest.

Same, i loathed doing the mage tower simply because of the sloth demon part it just too long, i hated having to backtrack again and again 

That was easily one of the most creative and interesting parts of the game. :/

Not to mention: stat boosts!

[Brockololly]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...
...then the game flirts with the idea that maybe all chosen ones were great because they bloody well worked at it.

Or all the "chosen ones" like Maric, the Warden or Hawke all end up messing with Flemeth? Coincidence?

[Merlin Dawnweaver]

Yeah another chance to pick on the Tsuntsun. 
But the fade ... eww the fade.

[krasnoarmeets]

I don't think that the warden leaving through the portal with his love Morrigan makes him look like a sidekick. To me it means he's willing to make a great sacrifice to be with his love and help raise his own child. Where's the sidekickyness in that? It makes him more a partner in crime, so to speak.

Wiseman say: 'It's a long way to the shops if you want a sausage roll...' = Prize not obtained not without some journey.

With regard to the fade, I found the Sloth demon sequence rather gruelling; people have already commented that they found the toing and froing annoying, I will gladly support that argument. Not my favourite areas...

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 09 octobre 2010 - 10:59 .

[AlexXIV]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

I don't think that the warden leaving through the portal with his love Morrigan makes him look like a sidekick. To me it means he's willing to make a great sacrifice to be with his love and help raise his own child. Where's the sidekickyness in that? It makes him more a partner in crime, so to speak.

Wiseman say: 'It's a long way to the shops if you want a sausage roll...' = Prize not obtained not without some journey.

With regard to the fade, I found the Sloth demon sequence rather gruelling; people have already commented that they found the toing and froing annoying, I will gladly support that argument. Not my favourite areas...

That's basically my 'canon' playthrough, Warden taking off with his love and child. Which is quite satisfying unless Morrigan's warning that it is a mistake turns out to be right. I would hope that the Warden at least manages to save Morrigan before he dies before DA3 comes out. My biggest fear though is that Morrigan's role is just to be the mother of the next hero, which is kinda disappointing because she does have alot more potential.

[Skellimancer]

Hmmm, decapitation awaits.

[Perfecti0nist]

Her story isn't over yet but she won't be in DA2, it has been confirmed.

I'm really glad she'll return at some point in the franchise, she's my favourite DA character.

Modifié par Perfecti0nist, 09 octobre 2010 - 11:49 .

[krasnoarmeets]

She seems to be one of the more thoughtfully constructed characters, although 'villains' (in this case read: non-heroic type) typically are.

[ArcanistLibram]

I don't particularly hate Morrigan, but her plot hasn't gone anywhere and I would prefer if Bioware would stop stretching it out.

[21121313]

Only if i get a chance to kill her this time around will i be happy about it. I wanted to slap her silly at the end of WH.

[Morrigans God son]

Knowing BioWare she will return without the warden. Yet again the choices you made before don't matter.

DA3 seems like the return of Morrigan, If there is a DA3. DA2 can go to hell and back for all I care, I'll still stalk these forums to hear the Flemeth/Morrigan/Godbaby/Alistair/ Leliana references from yall. Or am I hoping for too much?

[UberDuber]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We know she will return! Only if there is a DA3!

Morrigan & Flemeth are the best. When are we going to see them both fight it out for the title of "Witch of the wilds"?



Yay for more Morrigan! Woooooooooo! *Dances in Glee."

[krasnoarmeets]

DA2: The Flemeth Strikes Back
Exp: The Return of the Morrigan
DA3: The Phantom Morrigan
Exp: War of the Morrigans (Morrigan vs Flemeth)

Is this something like what you're expecting? (slight star wars theme there obviously)

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 10 octobre 2010 - 02:27 .

[Zenjamin]

steelfire_dragon wrote...

really now what was wrong with her??

she's no Jaheira sure but she was akewl kind of character in a what the hell is wrong with you kind of way.

And Hannibal Lecter a chool guy too. In a "WTF is wrong with you you psychopathic monster from hell" Sort of way..
Just like George W bush was a brilliant and eloquent speaker, in a "How do you retarted and bumbeling enough to embody both  jock and souther trailer trash at the same time" Sort of way.


Morigan being messed up doesnt make her cool or interesting. It just makes her messed up.
If she had the capacity for change or growth or evolution, then her messed up past would make her more interesting.
As it stands, her character has a 1 dimentional personality, and 3 dimentional brests.

And the later is the real reason people like her.
At least I hope so. If people are really attracted to a "Survivial and power are the only things that matter. So bash that baby kitten against a tree, or you are WEAK!!!" personality, then there is little hope for the world.

(imo)

[TheBlackBaron]

Zenjamin wrote...

steelfire_dragon wrote...

really now what was wrong with her??

she's no Jaheira sure but she was akewl kind of character in a what the hell is wrong with you kind of way.

And Hannibal Lecter a chool guy too. In a "WTF is wrong with you you psychopathic monster from hell" Sort of way..
Just like George W bush was a brilliant and eloquent speaker, in a "How do you retarted and bumbeling enough to embody both  jock and souther trailer trash at the same time" Sort of way.


Morigan being messed up doesnt make her cool or interesting. It just makes her messed up.
If she had the capacity for change or growth or evolution, then her messed up past would make her more interesting.
As it stands, her character has a 1 dimentional personality, and 3 dimentional brests.

And the later is the real reason people like her.
At least I hope so. If people are really attracted to a "Survivial and power are the only things that matter. So bash that baby kitten against a tree, or you are WEAK!!!" personality, then there is little hope for the world.

(imo)

You might try talking to her, instead of creating caricatures and being bitter that every companion is not a sponge soaking up all your Warden's opinions and regurgitating them back.

[standardpack]

Elton John is dead wrote...

 http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Fade-Returns-for-Dragon-Age-2-159992.shtml

God help us. Am I the only who hated her? 

See? Even this article agrees that we didn't get any answers in that DLC.  Still It's good to hear that she will play a role in the sequel, though by how much I wouldn't hold my breath to considering Witch hunt and the 'answers' we got.

[Zenjamin]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

You might try talking to her, instead of creating caricatures and being bitter that every companion is not a sponge soaking up all your Warden's opinions and regurgitating them back.

I do. 
I really did think her character had allot of potential... but she really does end up being single minded, selfish, and one dimentional. (imo)

Modifié par Zenjamin, 10 octobre 2010 - 04:08 .

[asaiasai]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Zenjamin wrote...

steelfire_dragon wrote...

really now what was wrong with her??

she's no Jaheira sure but she was akewl kind of character in a what the hell is wrong with you kind of way.

And Hannibal Lecter a chool guy too. In a "WTF is wrong with you you psychopathic monster from hell" Sort of way..
Just like George W bush was a brilliant and eloquent speaker, in a "How do you retarted and bumbeling enough to embody both  jock and souther trailer trash at the same time" Sort of way.


Morigan being messed up doesnt make her cool or interesting. It just makes her messed up.
If she had the capacity for change or growth or evolution, then her messed up past would make her more interesting.
As it stands, her character has a 1 dimentional personality, and 3 dimentional brests.

And the later is the real reason people like her.
At least I hope so. If people are really attracted to a "Survivial and power are the only things that matter. So bash that baby kitten against a tree, or you are WEAK!!!" personality, then there is little hope for the world.

(imo)

You might try talking to her, instead of creating caricatures and being bitter that every companion is not a sponge soaking up all your Warden's opinions and regurgitating them back.

@ Zenjamin

Nice very nice  i am so glad i am not the only one it seems to think Morrigan is over rated wilder trash, and am looking foward to the time when by either a knife to the belly or complete disregard by the player, Morrigan's story can finally be over.  

@ TheBlackBaron
Like my self i have tried to find SOME redeeming quality concerning Morrigan and so far i have found nothing worth all the drama concerning her character. Since my very first play through i found nothing her character brought to the game in any way shape or form except some sort of twisted souless adversary at war for my own immortal soul, probably because she lacks one of her own. I have tried on several occasions to involve Morrigan in the game, warden number 6 brought Morrigan everywhere and followed her advice every time, seriously what i walked away with was a WTF is her problem. I then posted my issues with Morrigan, after sorting pages and pages of  "you suck" replies,  finally a rational person (shocking that there are a few still around on the Inet) suggested i try again. So out comes warden number 14 to again try to find some reddeming quality in Morrigan, i could not stand the play to the point i almost stopped playing DAO all together as i was so disgusted with the Morrigan character. Finally someone pointed out that you can just cut Morrigan loose in Lotharin which i have done in every play since 15 to the just finished 22, the game has never been better for the cutting.


@ Bioware
I bought WH on the off chance that i could actually kill Morrigan as i was hoping, since you decided to allow the decision sets to carry over from DAO to DA2, to just remove Morrigan from my story entirely by her death. See i have only 2 characters out of 22 that involved Morrigan, her DR, and the god baby other than that she is irrelevant. She is so irrelevant that she can be totally ignored left to rot along side Allistair in camp or she can be removed from the party entirely on the steps of Lotharin (preffered way to play). The whole reason i bought WH was i was under the impression i could kill her finally removing this irrelevant distraction from the story, but even with WH i was denied the satisfaction of killing her. When gutted the harpy will fall back into the mirror (convient and cheap plot armor, you suck) and like a bad penny to return some day to plague me. Even gutting the tart felt anticlimactic, as i have said numerous times, like crushing the head of a mewling helpless kitten, so even there i was robbed of much deserved and anticipated satisfaction (again you suck). This theft was in part due to the character change presented in WH, from Morrigan the worthy adversary to Morrigan the helpless "i have always relied on the kindness of strangers" character worthy of only pity. I find this character change to be a lame assed attempt to sell the lemon that is Morrigan by generating a feeling of guilt that to hate Morrigan is to equate with being a puppy stomping fascist. Cheap and low kind of like Morrigan so i guess it is apropriate.

I hear rumors of her involvment in future installments of the DA franchise and i wince everytime. These rumors involve the canonization of her and her accursed demon baby, or some kind of fight against Flemeth. The truth of the matter is i trust Flemeth so much more that Morrigan that i will be seriously pissed if i am thrust into a position where i have to support, or god forbid assist Morrigan, so much so i would rather go buy and play another game. Flemeth was sold to me by her story, her voice actress (Kate) blowing Claudia away, and her actions by saving the wardens, such that anyone who is against Flemeth is against me, and all who assist Morrigan should die slow and painful deaths prefferably at my hands, I am thinking something like getting all Howe on thier asses. This is a decision i would hope you allow me and those like me who think Morrigan is an overrated and one dimensional character, to make. Flemeth or Morrigan, in the time it took you to read thier names the decision was already made Flemeth shall rule and if it requires Morrigan's death, wow a bonus too boot.

@ everybody who is about to fire up thier flame throwers
If Morrigan looked like Flemeth, not a single I  Morrigan thread would exist, that is because she is a shallow one dimensional character who has only a nice rack to provide any reason to tolerate her nonsense. My opinion is based upon the character only as she is presented in the game, i am not discussing books comics or anything else, if it is not in the game it does not exist. The game failed to provide in that context a reason as to why someone would care what happens to Morrigan, worm food, Flemeth's new meat suit, both work for me. As a mattter of fact i like "Flemeth's new meat suit" so much that from now on i will reffer to Morrigan as "Flemeth's new meat suit" in the hopes that it happens, Morrigan's body with Flemeth driving, now that is something worth the drama.

Asai

Modifié par asaiasai, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:19 .

[marshalleck]

asaiasai wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Zenjamin wrote...

steelfire_dragon wrote...

really now what was wrong with her??

she's no Jaheira sure but she was akewl kind of character in a what the hell is wrong with you kind of way.

And Hannibal Lecter a chool guy too. In a "WTF is wrong with you you psychopathic monster from hell" Sort of way..
Just like George W bush was a brilliant and eloquent speaker, in a "How do you retarted and bumbeling enough to embody both  jock and souther trailer trash at the same time" Sort of way.


Morigan being messed up doesnt make her cool or interesting. It just makes her messed up.
If she had the capacity for change or growth or evolution, then her messed up past would make her more interesting.
As it stands, her character has a 1 dimentional personality, and 3 dimentional brests.

And the later is the real reason people like her.
At least I hope so. If people are really attracted to a "Survivial and power are the only things that matter. So bash that baby kitten against a tree, or you are WEAK!!!" personality, then there is little hope for the world.

(imo)

You might try talking to her, instead of creating caricatures and being bitter that every companion is not a sponge soaking up all your Warden's opinions and regurgitating them back.

@ Zenjamin

Nice very nice  i am so glad i am not the only one it seems to think Morrigan is over rated wilder trash, and am looking foward to the time when by either a knife to the belly or complete disregard by the player, Morrigan's story can finally be over.  

@ TheBlackBaron
Like my self i have tried to find SOME redeeming quality concerning Morrigan and so far i have found nothing worth all the drama concerning her character. Since my very first play through i found nothing her character brought to the game in any way shape or form except some sort of twisted souless adversary at war for my own immortal soul, probably because she lacks one of her own. I have tried on several occasions to involve Morrigan in the game, warden number 6 brought Morrigan everywhere and followed her advice every time, seriously what i walked away with was a WTF is her problem. I then posted my issues with Morrigan, after sorting pages and pages of  "you suck" replies,  finally a rational person (shocking that there are a few still around on the Inet) suggested i try again. So out comes warden number 14 to again try to find some reddeming quality in Morrigan, i could not stand the play to the point i almost stopped playing DAO all together as i was so disgusted with the Morrigan character. Finally someone pointed out that you can just cut Morrigan loose in Lotharin which i have done in every play since 15 to the just finished 22, the game has never been better for the cutting.


@ Bioware
I bought WH on the off chance that i could actually kill Morrigan as i was hoping, since you decided to allow the decision sets to carry over from DAO to DA2, to just remove Morrigan from my story entirely by her death. See i have only 2 characters out of 22 that involved Morrigan, her DR, and the god baby other than that she is irrelevant. She is so irrelevant that she can be totally ignored left to rot along side Allistair in camp or she can be removed from the party entirely on the steps of Lotharin (preffered way to play). The whole reason i bought WH was i was under the impression i could kill her finally removing this irrelevant distraction from the story, but even with WH i was denied the satisfaction of killing her. When gutted the harpy will fall back into the mirror (convient and cheap plot armor, you suck) and like a bad penny to return some day to plague me. Even gutting the tart felt anticlimactic, as i have said numerous times, like crushing the head of a mewling helpless kitten, so even there i was robbed of much deserved and anticipated satisfaction (again you suck). This theft was in part due to the character change presented in WH, from Morrigan the worthy adversary to Morrigan the helpless "i have always relied on the kindness of strangers" character worthy of only pity. I find this character change to be a lame assed attempt to sell the lemon that is Morrigan by generating a feeling of guilt that to hate Morrigan is to equate with being a puppy stomping fascist. Cheap and low kind of like Morrigan so i guess it is apropriate.

I hear rumors of her involvment in future installments of the DA franchise and i wince everytime. These rumors involve the canonization of her and her accursed demon baby, or some kind of fight against Flemeth. The truth of the matter is i trust Flemeth so much more that Morrigan that i will be seriously pissed if i am thrust into a position where i have to support, or god forbid assist Morrigan, so much so i would rather go buy and play another game. Flemeth was sold to me by her story, her voice actress (Kate) blowing Claudia away, and her actions by saving the wardens, such that anyone who is against Flemeth is against me, and all who assist Morrigan should die slow and painful deaths prefferably at my hands, I am thinking something like getting all Howe on thier asses. This is a decision i would hope you allow me and those like me who think Morrigan is an overrated and one dimensional character, to make. Flemeth or Morrigan, in the time it took you to read thier names the decision was already made Flemeth shall rule and if it requires Morrigan's death, wow a bonus too boot.

@ everybody who is about to fire up thier flame throwers
If Morrigan looked like Flemeth, not a single I  Morrigan thread would exist, that is because she is a shallow one dimensional character who has only a nice rack to provide any reason to tolerate her nonsense. My opinion is based upon the character only as she is presented in the game, i am not discussing books comics or anything else, if it is not in the game it does not exist. The game failed to provide in that context a reason as to why someone would care what happens to Morrigan, worm food, Flemeth's new meat suit, both work for me. As a mattter of fact i like "Flemeth's new meat suit" so much that from now on i will reffer to Morrigan as "Flemeth's new meat suit" in the hopes that it happens, Morrigan's body with Flemeth driving, now that is something worth the drama.

Asai

Wow. You realiza that voicing such a strong opinion about a character is only going to confirm in the writers' minds that they did something very, very right when they created Morrigan? You've essentially just guaranteed that you'll never see the end of her. 

If you really want to insult a writer's work, express complete ambivalence about it. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:24 .