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[Addai]

Wrath of Bong wrote...

I prefer the changes to Dragon Age 2 as well. Those people who are afraid of changes or what I like to call them "Dragon Age Republicans" are stopping Bioware from reaching their full potential. They are afraid of words like mainstream, simplified and DLC. They want Bioware to be stuck in the past where they create dated games to fulfill their nostalgia

Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

[In Exile]

Addai67 wrote...

Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Right, but you think the same thing. Dragon Age should stay as close to Origins as possible because you like that sort of game, and not any other.

[Hollingdale]

The worst thing change can bring is wisdom, and that's a great thing.

[Addai]

In Exile wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Right, but you think the same thing. Dragon Age should stay as close to Origins as possible because you like that sort of game, and not any other.

I do not attempt to paint my preferences as the "wave of the future" or the only way to make money so resistance is futile.  As that poster was doing.

Modifié par Addai67, 10 octobre 2010 - 10:38 .

[Amyntas]

I like the voiced main character and the "rival" system. The framed narrative sounds interesting as well. I'm not convinced by the new combat (yet), the graphics aren't that great and it has already been confirmed that the game will be shorter than Origins. Overall I'm not as excited as I was for Origins, but that excitement only started when the first companion videos were released. So I hope we'll see some of those soon.

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...

Wrath of Bong wrote...

I prefer the changes to Dragon Age 2 as well. Those people who are afraid of changes or what I like to call them "Dragon Age Republicans" are stopping Bioware from reaching their full potential. They are afraid of words like mainstream, simplified and DLC. They want Bioware to be stuck in the past where they create dated games to fulfill their nostalgia

Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Indeed! Dragon Age Republicans... LOL!

I myself I'm looking forward to DA2 with a positive mindset. I don't like all the things I've heard, but none of them are deal breakers for me yet. 

[Yrkoon]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Just to note, it's nice to see a thread that's positive. As I've said before, I totally understand the concerns around DA2. It's different, and different could be a bad thing. It could also be a good thing, and I'm glad some folks are excited by the changes.

Let me add to the positiveness.   I'm ready for "different".  I welcome it.

A  while back,  I was a big NWN fan, and was ready for something different  back then too.  So I bought Dragon Age.   It was different.   Loved it.

Lets do  that again.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 octobre 2010 - 12:02 .

[In Exile]

Addai67 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Right, but you think the same thing. Dragon Age should stay as close to Origins as possible because you like that sort of game, and not any other.

I do not attempt to paint my preferences as the "wave of the future" or the only way to make money so resistance is futile.  As that poster was doing.

But you didn't criticize the poster for any of that. There are many layers of pot-kettle here.

[Wrath of Bong]

[quote]Addai67 wrote...

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Heh.  Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe.  Very mature.  But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.
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First of all if FPS are not big sellers, I wouldn't even bother recommending it, but they are. Just look at the sales, it's not just "my preferences", it's the millions out there. PC games are not as dominate as they were, so why I got into my "inner console kiddie" and suggest that to Bioware. If these rumors of Bioware developing a military FPS are true, then Bioware must think the same. Now if a Baldur's Gate type game or whatever game you DARs reminisce and get all teary sells very well, I would recommend that but they are not. And suggesting it like it's some big seller is delusion.


[quote]Zjarcal wrote...

Indeed! Dragon Age Republicans... LOL!

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If it's up to them, they would put borders around the Bioware offices to prevent those changes from getting in and they would patrol inside the building approaching any suspicious people and ask their papers. If they don't have them, they would deport them.

Modifié par Wrath of Bong, 11 octobre 2010 - 12:24 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Back in my day FPS games were PC games developed by PC companies. The oversaturation of them has made them less popular.



But I wonder where those companies went.

[Aradace]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

EDIT: nvm

Also, I agree wholeheartedly.
Nice to see someone who isn't throwing a tantrum over change.

Those throwing said "Temper tantrums" are the supposed "Hardcore" players.  And that is exactly what they are doing, throwing a fit like a 5 year old because DA2 isnt going to be a carbon copy of DAO.  They're afraid of change.  And anything that steps outside of their preordained "scope of reality" is immediately dismissed and considered "bad" by default before even giving it a chance.

[tmp7704]

Aradace wrote...

They're afraid of change.

Can everyone who uses this argument please cut off their own penis? This would be certainly a change and as such nothing to be afraid of, and it has to be experienced first hand before one can tell whether they're going to like it or not, right?

Modifié par tmp7704, 11 octobre 2010 - 12:41 .

[Wrath of Bong]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Back in my day FPS games were PC games developed by PC companies. The oversaturation of them has made them less popular.

But I wonder where those companies went.

How far back should I go? From the top of my head there's Id is developing a game called Rage and shows some promise that it's not some corridor shooter like they always make. Monolith who developed the No One Lives Forever series created the F.E.A.R. series. Ion Storm are currently developing Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Yes, some of those companies went under because some of them failed to create an interesting FPS. But some like Looking Glass made some amazing and unique games, but still sold poorly and the company gone under. So are you suggesting if Bioware start to develop FPS, they're going to go under? If that's so, I'll bet against that.

Modifié par Wrath of Bong, 11 octobre 2010 - 12:48 .

[Vicious]

Heh. Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe. Very mature. But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Ya know, preferring to play roleplaying games does not make you 'better' than the 13 year old kid playing Gears of War.



And it's really sad that seem to think so. And funny.

[upsettingshorts]

Vicious wrote...
Ya know, preferring to play roleplaying games does not make you 'better' than the 13 year old kid playing Gears of War.

And it's really sad that seem to think so. And funny.

Agreed! 

But I am superior to Starcraft II players because I play Europa Universalis III.  

[DPB]

Wrath of Bong wrote...

Ion Storm are currently developing Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Ion Storm are long dead, probably because none of their games other than the original Deus Ex sold particularly well. Deus Ex HR is being developed by Eidos Montreal, and will be their first game.

[Wrath of Bong]

Oops, my mistake, I should have went the obvious and mentioned Valve, Gearbox Software, Bohemia Interactive Studio and DICE.

I never played the game but before Bioware developed the first Baldur's Gate they made Shattered Steel. From what I read it's a first-person shooter where you ride giant mech and includes multiplayer. Where Bioware is now? Well, I suppose they are doing okay.

Modifié par Wrath of Bong, 11 octobre 2010 - 01:24 .

[Aradace]

tmp7704 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

They're afraid of change.

Can everyone who uses this argument please cut off their own penis? This would be certainly a change and as such nothing to be afraid of, and it has to be experienced first hand before one can tell whether they're going to like it or not, right?

You're comparing chopping off one's penis to a VIDEO GAME.  The fact that you're even making that comparison makes me laugh histerically (and possibly meniacally) Seriously, it's apples and oranges.  Try again and maybe I'll grace you with a proper answer

[tmp7704]

Aradace wrote...

You're comparing chopping off one's penis to a VIDEO GAME.

No, i'm giving an example which rather clearly demonstrates that it is possible for reasonable human being to assess whether they will like a change without trying it first hand. And that they can have reasonable reasons to dislike a change. Your objection of "but it's VIDEO GAME" makes no sense, because it sounds like you are trying to say that because it's VIDEO GAME we mysteriously loose our ability to evaluate impact of changes in advance which we do have otherwise.

But fine, let's make argument limited to VIDEO GAMES. Imagine a game where your character always dies 10 seconds after you start. It's certainly a change from how the VIDEO GAMES normally do it. Are you going to insist that because it's VIDEO GAME one cannot tell in advance they wouldn't enjoy such change very much, and that they are just "afraid of it" and that they must try it first before they declare that hey, whaddyaknow, they indeed don't like it?

[grillz]

I want to see someone demand BW to make sword fighting like AC2. lol jk

[Wrath of Bong]

Oh my god, grillz, that would be awesome even if you were just joking. But I rather Bioware implement multiplayer in the next Dragon Age like what the next Assassin's Creed game is doing.

Vicious wrote...

Heh. Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe. Very mature. But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Ya know, preferring to play roleplaying games does not make you 'better' than the 13 year old kid playing Gears of War.



And it's really sad that seem to think so. And funny.

I'm actually in my 20's playing GoW. I didn't really take offense to what that person mentioned. If that person wants to think he/she is better because he/she into LARP, plays Dungeons and Dragons in a basement and plays RPGs video game then he/she has every right to.

[IrishSpectre257]

Can't wait for this game. Every new piece of info just gets me more excited.

[upsettingshorts]

Wrath of Bong wrote...
I'm actually in my 20's playing GoW. I didn't really take offense to what that person mentioned. If that person wants to think he/she is better because he/she into LARP, plays Dungeons and Dragons in a basement and plays RPGs video game then he/she has every right to.

...and I'm not gonna touch this one with a ten foot pole.  Have fun with the flames, you'll deserve them.

[Addai]

Vicious wrote...

Heh. Just love it when people assume that their preferences are the center of the universe. Very mature. But I'm sure Bioware appreciates your attempts to help them realize their inner console kiddie.

Ya know, preferring to play roleplaying games does not make you 'better' than the 13 year old kid playing Gears of War.

And it's really sad that seem to think so. And funny.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round, but the poster I'm responding to would have us believe that the 13 year old playing Gears of War is where evolution is taking us and that all game makers must bow to his screechy demands.

[Onyx Jaguar]

back in my day 17 to 28 year olds were not 13 years old



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