Modifié par Trenrade, 03 novembre 2010 - 03:40 .
I hate Morrigan.
#76
Posté 03 novembre 2010 - 03:39
#77
Posté 03 novembre 2010 - 03:44
FellowerOfOdin wrote...
It's only natural that people who do not like Morrigan tend to like Wynne
Both are strong personalities yet have a totally different alignment. Morrigan is selfish, cruel and cold-hearted whereas Wynne is a truly good people who cares for others and is willing to being any sacrifice. Wynne is 100% lawful, in general, lawful good, whereas Morrigan is 100% chaotic and pretty much...evil to a lesser degree. On the one hand, she is not running around blindly killing stuff, but on the other hand, she truly has a evil personality.
I would say she is more Chaotic Neutral or Neutral Evil
#78
Posté 03 novembre 2010 - 04:30
FellowerOfOdin wrote...
Wrong. Morrigan cannot be Chaotic Neutral as this requires her to be in a group with a common goal - and that's not the case. The "real" group wants to save Ferelden whereas Morrigan only wants to become more powerful herself and...uh, spoilers.
Quoting from Wikipedia for Neutral Evil:Neutral Evil is called the "Malefactor" alignment. Characters of this alignment are typically selfish and have no qualms about turning on their allies-of-the-moment. They have no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit to it.
We got 3 critical strikes here.
Perhaps if Ferelden didn't decree that Morrigan be burnt at the stake, she would be a bit more keen about saving it...
But what you posted could apply to almost all your companions, no? Even the saintly Wynne has little problem with an itchy trigger finger when you first meet her and Allistair is probably the only one who truly "wants" to save Ferelden but his priorities certainly get complicated should you choose certain dialogue options at the most crucial part of the game.
I think she fits CN to a T
#79
Posté 03 novembre 2010 - 06:48
#80
Guest_Glaucon_*
Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 06:16
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ON Morrigan:
Personally I think she's very complicated! She's a challenge to manage her in a party. That is, however, the nature of managing a team both in real life and in RPGs. She's hard work and I like her for it. I agree with other comments about the depth of her character development and that we would need to peer beneath the surface to understand her. Yet, she is who she is and that means dealing with her on her terms sometimes. Again I don't see it as a problem, in fact, I think it makes the game far more interesting. Building a party of Lawful Goods and saving the world with ease is rather dull! I nearly always try to have a party of mixed alignments when I play an RPG if only to increase the challenge.
Great voice acting, nice dialog and she gives Alistair a hard time whenever she can which always cheers me up.
#81
Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 07:28
#82
Posté 05 novembre 2010 - 08:59
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Guest_The Water God_*
Posté 06 novembre 2010 - 03:54
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#84
Posté 06 novembre 2010 - 09:51
#85
Posté 06 novembre 2010 - 04:14
Wynne is just too lawful for me.. She's got the attitude of, this is right because it was always right and therefor will always be right, end of discussion. Not enough independent thought going on in there.
Leliana is just nuts.. No impulse control, she gets a feeling and then alters her perception of the world to justify it.. Smart girl, but completely unable to look at the big picture.
Modifié par Tiskenburdle, 06 novembre 2010 - 04:24 .
#86
Posté 07 novembre 2010 - 01:07
She is very practical and a bit ruthless because of her upbringing.
My male mage romanced her and they fell in love.
She actually has feelings you just have to get to know her.
She is trying to seem tough but really she isn't.
most of my characters get along with her, if she disapproves bribe her lol.
Also I don't see anything Morrigan does as evil at all. Just because she pratices apostate magics doesn't make her a bad person and since we are not sure why she wants a child can we really judge her on Being manipulative towards the warden?
Modifié par metalcraze33, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:14 .
#87
Guest_The Water God_*
Posté 08 novembre 2010 - 02:56
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#88
Posté 08 novembre 2010 - 09:37
Plus she has a great wardrobe.... *rowr*
#89
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Posté 09 novembre 2010 - 02:03
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Joy Divison wrote...
FellowerOfOdin wrote...
Wrong. Morrigan cannot be Chaotic Neutral as this requires her to be in a group with a common goal - and that's not the case. The "real" group wants to save Ferelden whereas Morrigan only wants to become more powerful herself and...uh, spoilers.
Quoting from Wikipedia for Neutral Evil:Neutral Evil is called the "Malefactor" alignment. Characters of this alignment are typically selfish and have no qualms about turning on their allies-of-the-moment. They have no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit to it.
We got 3 critical strikes here.
Perhaps if Ferelden didn't decree that Morrigan be burnt at the stake, she would be a bit more keen about saving it...
But what you posted could apply to almost all your companions, no? Even the saintly Wynne has little problem with an itchy trigger finger when you first meet her and Allistair is probably the only one who truly "wants" to save Ferelden but his priorities certainly get complicated should you choose certain dialogue options at the most crucial part of the game.
I think she fits CN to a T
You forgot Leliana also wants to join the warden to stop the bllight.
And the reason Wynne turns on the warden in the circle tower is because she is trying to protect her fellow mages. Morrigan kills Wynne because she hates mages and the circle, she is very selfish. Even worse is killing the mages has no benfit but she still wants it done.
#90
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 01:26
metalcraze33 wrote...
I don't find her shallow at all.
She is very practical and a bit ruthless because of her upbringing.
My male mage romanced her and they fell in love.
She actually has feelings you just have to get to know her.
She is trying to seem tough but really she isn't.
most of my characters get along with her, if she disapproves bribe her lol.
Also I don't see anything Morrigan does as evil at all. Just because she pratices apostate magics doesn't make her a bad person and since we are not sure why she wants a child can we really judge her on Being manipulative towards the warden?
I agree, Morrigan is a loner by upbringing, not by choice, if you talk to her more often, you realise that she isn't a one dimensional character. She initially appears to have a cold hearted rigid perspective on the world, but further investigation reveals that inside that seemingly supremely confident wretch, is a human being that is embroiled with much inner turmoil and insecurity.
Should you chose to romance her, she initially is completely stringently adherent to the 'love is a weakness' philosophy, yet it is apparent that towards the end she finds it increasingly difficult to overcome her affection for the warden.
One always yearns for that that is all the more hard to obtain i.e. her genuine affection.
I think i really liked her because she was a paradox, so head strong and brash, yet somewhere deep down, lay that little girl who cried over a pretty broken mirror...
#91
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 01:50
I just think, when it's based on the story line, who can blame her? Automatically called an apostate because of what she is.
#92
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 06:16
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Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 06:20
#94
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 06:29
#95
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 07:09
#96
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 07:58
#97
Guest_Glaucon_*
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 10:33
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DarkRevan1975 wrote...
I think Morrigan is mainly just misunderstood i mean she cannot be catergorised as simply evil-or good she is probably in alignment terms chaotic neutral maybe, but i like her shes what you may call a 'real' anti-hero?
I see her as a Neutral Evil. Chaotics are psychologically more unstable and probably wouldn't even stay with the group as there doesn't seem to be much in it for that archetype.
#98
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 10:39
#99
Posté 18 novembre 2010 - 10:50
#100
Guest_The Water God_*
Posté 19 novembre 2010 - 01:10
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Glaucon wrote...
DarkRevan1975 wrote...
I think Morrigan is mainly just misunderstood i mean she cannot be catergorised as simply evil-or good she is probably in alignment terms chaotic neutral maybe, but i like her shes what you may call a 'real' anti-hero?
I see her as a Neutral Evil. Chaotics are psychologically more unstable and probably wouldn't even stay with the group as there doesn't seem to be much in it for that archetype.
Yeah I agree. Chaotic is more like Leliana, who has a vision and then decides to go take on the blight all by herself.
I also think Morrgian is evil because she loves kill the mages in the circle tower. Just cause she hates them.





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