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[SSV Enterprise]

yorkj86 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

IIRC, Morinth began to express the traits in her 40s. 

That must be an error of writing, since we're told that AY-ism isn't curable because it only becomes detectable at a stage where nothing can be done about it.

EDIT: I wouldn't mind not hearing another thing about the Ardat-Yakshi, since that condition was invented just to sell Samara and Morinth's relation to one another.

The Maiden stage is the very first stage of asari life.  Even if not, we have no definition of when maidenhood starts elsewhere.  Apparently, then, it starts when an asari hits her forties.

The question should be "would", not "will"- it's clearly impossible, or Shepard would have been fried.  And that's the answer- I would have died, like with Morinth.  Hell, ME1 wouldn't be completable, because you need to meld with Liara to figure out that the conduit's on Ilos.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

ashwind wrote...

If Liara were an Ardat-Yakshi and Samara is after her, will you kill her or Samara?

i don't like samara... you do the math... 

:happy:commander sheperd will ardat-yakshi some blue smurf's azure... 

[Christmas Ape]

Phaedon wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...
At that point it's a question of galactic stability - we cannot place a Justicar at the heart of the Shadow Broker network. So sorry, but that's a recipe for complete chaos.

True, but I wouldn't let a serial killer running around either...

Can't hunt them all down. She'd be one of, most likely, millions. Hell, "letting a serial killer run around" is more or less the outcome of your trip to the Purgatory. It's far less dangerous than turning the Shadow Broker network to black-and-white, damn-the-costs "good" deeds.

Not that Liara is an Ardat-Yakshi, that's impossible.

Well, granted. Thought exercise.

[jlb524]

yorkj86 wrote...

Or, before Maidenhood, asari are considered infants, and then children. There might not be terms for those "stages".

The Maiden stage begins at birth according to the Codex. 

[pacer90]

jlb524 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Or, before Maidenhood, asari are considered infants, and then children. There might not be terms for those "stages".

The Maiden stage begins at birth according to the Codex. 

Your avatar reminds me how good bioware made Liara look in LotSB. Best model by far

[Mox Ruuga]

Well...

Ardat-Yakshi grow in power by "feeding"? And Liara is our good chum, no matter what...

List of non-essential personnel Liara could snack on:

- Samara (I like her actually, but she's an immediate threat)
- Tali
- Garrus
- Thane
- Jacob
- Jack

With apologies to Jacob and Jack... It's nothing personal!

After that, we'll start hiring mercs. There are enough Blue Suns in the Terminus to keep Liara sated for a good while!

[jlb524]

yorkj86 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Or, before Maidenhood, asari are considered infants, and then children. There might not be terms for those "stages".

The Maiden stage begins at birth according to the Codex. 

Okay, but that still doesn't explain why Morinth found out about being an Ardat-Yakshi at 40, when the trait expresses itself at ~100.

Who ever said that it expresses itself around age 100?

[tmk]

yorkj86 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
The Maiden stage begins at birth according to the Codex. 

Okay, but that still doesn't explain why Morinth found out about being an Ardat-Yakshi at 40, when the trait expresses itself at ~100.

Perhaps you should first explain where you got the notion that the trait manifests at ~100.

[jlb524]

Yeah, the asari consider themselves Maidens from age 0 to 300ish. Though, we would further break up that time period into a child and adult stage, but it's unclear how they would define it. For us, a 2 year old Maiden is different from a 108 year old like Liara.

[tmk]

yorkj86 wrote...
If the asari do the stereotypical clubbing-and-dancing thing from 0 to 300, and reach maturity around ~40, that's a lot of time wasted doing nothing much, as Matriarch Aethyta points out, and I agree with her. At least, as I previously thought, if they only reach maturity at ~100, they might have less expected of them by other asari. Maturing at 40 and partying until 300 demonstrates a pretty egregious and intentional squandering of a 1000-year-long lifespan.

Well, it never really made sense to me how asari society really works... but if they can afford it, might as well enjoy that lifespan while you're young.

Also, you can't assume that ALL asari do nothing but strip in night clubs until they turn 300. Liara already got her degree by the age of what, 50? Ironically, her research hasn't been taken seriously due to her age...

[Sombrero Bandit]

Feed her to some Varren

[jlb524]

yorkj86 wrote...

If the asari do the stereotypical clubbing-and-dancing thing from 0 to 300, and reach maturity around ~40, that's a lot of time wasted doing nothing much, as Matriarch Aethyta points out, and I agree with her. At least, as I previously thought, if they only reach maturity at ~100, they might have less expected of them by other asari. Maturing at 40 and partying until 300 demonstrates a pretty egregious and intentional squandering of a 1000-year-long lifespan.

Huh?  How is 'partying' for 260 years of youth out of a 1000 years a waste?  Humans do something similar.

Modifié par jlb524, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:59 .

[ashwind]

Yes - I was asking hypothetically. Since Liara is a favorite to many I wonder if you could actually kill her IF she were an AY



For me, that would be a really hard decision - killing Morinth is easy. If I keep Liara alive, might want to ask the Quarian to build Shepard and her sets of environmental suit with Deluxe Nerve Stimulation Module for the more intimate interactions

[Therion942]

jlb524 wrote...


Huh?  How is 'partying' for 260 years of youth out of a 1000 years a waste?  Humans do something similar.

Because a massive amount can be accomplished in near-300 years. It's not really the same as the 15 or so a human does. Though trying to apply human traditions and perceptions to an alien species is erroneous in itself, but that's looking at it in a vacuum and has nothing to do with the topic at hand right now.

[jlb524]

Therion942 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...


Huh?  How is 'partying' for 260 years of youth out of a 1000 years a waste?  Humans do something similar.

Because a massive amount can be accomplished in near-300 years. It's not really the same as the 15 or so a human does. Though trying to apply human traditions and perceptions to an alien species is erroneous in itself, but that's looking at it in a vacuum and has nothing to do with the topic at hand right now.

But, you are also applying a human perspective, thinking so much could be accomplished in a 300 year period.  To a human, that's 2 lifetimes.

[Snowship]

I'd have to let Liara eat lead

[ObserverStatus]

I couldn't do either. I'd be dead before I meet Samara.

[mineralica]

If Liara has become addicted with killing people, what would be the difference between her and Morinth? Definitely eliminate Liara

[Killjoy Cutter]

ashwind wrote...

If Liara were an Ardat-Yakshi and Samara is after her, will you kill her or Samara?

SHE CANNOT BE AN ARDAT-YAKSHI.   EVEN A NON-ROMANCED LIARA MIND-MELDS WITH SHEP MULTIPLE TIMES AND SHEP DOES NOT DIE.



This nonsense seems to come up on a regular basis, doesn't it?

[Melancholic]

I would die, I guess. Preferably after taking down Samara.

[Mox Ruuga]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

SHE CANNOT BE AN ARDAT-YAKSHI.   EVEN A NON-ROMANCED LIARA MIND-MELDS WITH SHEP MULTIPLE TIMES AND SHEP DOES NOT DIE.



This nonsense seems to come up on a regular basis, doesn't it?

Some people didn't think it through and believe they've found something cool nobody thought of before.

And others go for the easy trolling attempt, which some of the more emotional Liara fanbois and fangirlies are admittedly kinda asking for...