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[Zakish]

Sten has an interesting story. After I got to know him better you learn alot about his people from him.



Their views on other people. As far as a character. Drops fast. Damage is not as good as others. I agree Dog is better. Dont have him in my party as much.



On a side note. People referenced him as evil. I find there is no truly evil characters in this game. Just people with different views on things. I thought I could have a nice evil group with him and morigan in the group and dog since you could do anything and the mutt still loves you. I found that where morigan agreed with alot of the stuff I did sten did not.

[Eradyn]

I don''t bring Sten along, but I did have a lot of conversations with him. Getting to know Sten, I actually like and "respect" him, at least as much as one can for a fictional character. ^^ His way of thinking is different, but can be pretty easy to pick up. I guess it's a good exercise in dealing with cultures alien to one's own...but as I said, he really isn't that irritating (to me) once you get to know just what is driving him.

[stevej713]

VeeVito wrote...

I left Sten to rot because there wasn't any reason to believe that he wasn't the murdering a-hole described (unless I missed an NPC somewhere). I suspected he would be destroyed from the dialogue though and I don't care.

Damn Sten to hell. I shall complete the destruction of the darkspawn without his ass. In fact,  to spite his ass.

I completely agree.  When I was in Lothering, I wanted Sten in my party until the Revered Mother told me he slaughtered an entire family.  I wasn't too bothered until I found the kid who was walking around the village looking for his parents.  I was so sad at that point that the only reason I would let Sten out would be to kill him myself.

[NaclynE]

I got Sten from doing the one thing in Lothering.

How ever when I did try to get him the first time by envokeing the Warden Rights thing, the bloody Chantry gal blew a gasket. Mainly cuz I said 'heck no' to donating to her. However if you do have Leliana in the party, she will help you get Sten. But why does the Warden thing work for Duncan and not you? LOL.

Anyhoo I find him a decent fighter and a bit better handleing two handed fighting better than Allister for some reason. Might be just me or maybe because he's better equipped? Or maybe I'm building Sten differant compared to Allister.

I find his conversations with Morrigan funny cuz Morrigan wants to get in Sten's pants but he seems to REALLY TRY HARD not to. LOL. it's just 100% funny I think.

[boar01]

Sten is badass with a good 2-hander.

[Mnemnosyne]

NaclynE wrote...
But why does the Warden thing work for Duncan and not you? LOL.

In Lothering, it's more understandable since at that point in the game there's more than a little question in the NPC's eyes as to your actual rights and so on, due to the false story being spread about the Wardens.

I found it much more annoying in the case at Redcliffe, where there seems to be no option to use the Right of Conscription to 'take custody' of a certain mage there.  While I understand they might have wanted to avoid making that character a full party member, it would have been an easy out to force the Joining - since you're conscripting him you must properly induct him into the Wardens, and just have it kill him.

Indeed, so far I haven't encountered a single opportunity to make use of the Wardens' right of conscription, which I was hoping to have feature in at least one companion's story.  A reluctant person being conscripted and a person being conscripted away from people who don't want to let them go would be interesting companion-stories.

[Taritu]

Koyasha wrote...

NaclynE wrote...
But why does the Warden thing work for Duncan and not you? LOL.

In Lothering, it's more understandable since at that point in the game there's more than a little question in the NPC's eyes as to your actual rights and so on, due to the false story being spread about the Wardens.

I found it much more annoying in the case at Redcliffe, where there seems to be no option to use the Right of Conscription to 'take custody' of a certain mage there.  While I understand they might have wanted to avoid making that character a full party member, it would have been an easy out to force the Joining - since you're conscripting him you must properly induct him into the Wardens, and just have it kill him.

Indeed, so far I haven't encountered a single opportunity to make use of the Wardens' right of conscription, which I was hoping to have feature in at least one companion's story.  A reluctant person being conscripted and a person being conscripted away from people who don't want to let them go would be interesting companion-stories.

Agreed.  That mage did something to redeem himself (and had a kick ass selection of spells, I might add) and it would have been interesting to be able to conscript him.  And I don't think Arl Eamon, stickler for the law he is, would have refused you.

[soteria]

I lol'd at the conversation when Sten told me "I don't understand--you are a woman." Apparently, a woman's place is in the kitchen, baking cookies, NOT battling darkspawn.



Minor spoilers ahead.



Koyasha, you can't perform the Joining. Alistair tells you he doesn't know how the entire ceremony works--it inolves lyrium and some other ingredients as well as darkspawn blood. Otherwise, it would have been cool, yes.

[Mnemnosyne]

soteria wrote...

I lol'd at the conversation when Sten told me "I don't understand--you are a woman." Apparently, a woman's place is in the kitchen, baking cookies, NOT battling darkspawn.

Minor spoilers ahead.

Koyasha, you can't perform the Joining. Alistair tells you he doesn't know how the entire ceremony works--it inolves lyrium and some other ingredients as well as darkspawn blood. Otherwise, it would have been cool, yes.

Yeah, I recall that now and didn't think of it.  I actually find that somewhat dissapointing, as early on I was looking forward to having to make more actual Grey Wardens myself.

[Periodiko]

Elves are a lithe, pointy-eared race who excel at poverty.

The best Sten quote: "No." Take your pick.

Modifié par Periodiko, 12 novembre 2009 - 05:42 .

[Rexxean]

Sten is still a bad ass DP'ser I love him,. even he assulted me already once, but he cool in a weird way, I be upset if I lost him permently

[bigtpsychoboy]

Sten is essential to my 3 2h warrior + spirit mage group!

[NaclynE]

Koyasha wrote...

soteria wrote...

I lol'd at the conversation when Sten told me "I don't understand--you are a woman." Apparently, a woman's place is in the kitchen, baking cookies, NOT battling darkspawn.

Minor spoilers ahead.

Koyasha, you can't perform the Joining. Alistair tells you he doesn't know how the entire ceremony works--it inolves lyrium and some other ingredients as well as darkspawn blood. Otherwise, it would have been cool, yes.

Yeah, I recall that now and didn't think of it.  I actually find that somewhat dissapointing, as early on I was looking forward to having to make more actual Grey Wardens myself.

Well i found thatkind of lame because Alister has been around Duncan for....how long? and sees him as a father figure and knows nothing of the ritual? I find that odd that out of the blue he's like "I don't know what ingrediants were used, what incantation was used, or even what the scroll said".

Well I suppose theres room for a sequal where you get someone that WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT. Lol.

PS: You do envoke it to get Legeiang or whatever the jerkfaces name is to join your party late in the game.

Modifié par NaclynE, 12 novembre 2009 - 05:51 .

[NaclynE]

Koyasha wrote...

soteria wrote...

I lol'd at the conversation when Sten told me "I don't understand--you are a woman." Apparently, a woman's place is in the kitchen, baking cookies, NOT battling darkspawn.

Minor spoilers ahead.

Koyasha, you can't perform the Joining. Alistair tells you he doesn't know how the entire ceremony works--it inolves lyrium and some other ingredients as well as darkspawn blood. Otherwise, it would have been cool, yes.

Yeah, I recall that now and didn't think of it.  I actually find that somewhat dissapointing, as early on I was looking forward to having to make more actual Grey Wardens myself.

Well i found thatkind of lame because Alister has been around Duncan for....how long? and sees him as a father figure and knows nothing of the ritual? I find that odd that out of the blue he's like "I don't know what ingrediants were used, what incantation was used, or even what the scroll said".

Well I suppose theres room for a sequal where you get someone that WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT. Lol.

PS: You do envoke the right to have Legeiyan or whatever the jerkfaces name is to join your party late in the game.

[WildstarGoethe]

AtraAngelis wrote...

Screw Sten the Emo, lobotomized warrior. Go get a real warrior in the dwarf Hold!!!..

That pretty much sums it up.

[thekrazydave]

Maybe it was because I had a high persuade, or my other dialogues leading up to it, but I used therightof conscription to get Sten. And He was my best 2h warrior. He is boring at first, but he has some fun dialogue with Shale and Morrigan.

[Mnemnosyne]

NaclynE wrote...

Well i found thatkind of lame because Alister has been around Duncan for....how long? and sees him as a father figure and knows nothing of the ritual? I find that odd that out of the blue he's like "I don't know what ingrediants were used, what incantation was used, or even what the scroll said".

Well, Alistair is relatively new to the Wardens.  It seems like he was conscripted only a few months ago at most, from the sound of it (as far as I've known there's no specific amount of time given).  And Duncan did say that the mages were preparing something.  This may have been the first Joining Alistair has been involved in since his own, and it didn't look like he went to watch what Duncan or the mages did with the blood, and clearly he didn't see it at his own Joining, either.  And even if he had watched the mages, he's not a mage himself so he wouldn't have a clue what exactly they did.  Clearly neither him nor Duncan anticipated him needing that knowledge anytime soon, so Duncan didn't tell him and he probably didn't ask.  It's probably not normal to tell someone the details until they've been a Warden for several years.

[Default137]

Sten is....



He's unique really, he starts out very cold towards you, but its really because he doesn't understand your culture and people, and well, you don't understand his, if you actually bring him along, and try getting to know him, he turns out to be a really interesting person, and a good addition to the team.



The only real problem I have with Sten is his lack of a Specialization Point, thats huge, and it really slows him down late game, where Ogrhen is a Beserker, or your PC could go anything really, and still use a 2H, he is left behind, and it really shows in the amount of damage he can put out compared to Ogrhen.



I'd really really REALLY suggest you at least try to make him like you, resetting saves and whatnot, and bringing him with you as often as you can, you'll probably be fairly surprised at how he turns out as a character.

[Melduran]

POSSIBLE SPOILER



Best part of Sten is bring him to break Alister and you out of prison the best is either him and the dog or the dwarf I was crying it was so funny the dialogue they put in to it.

[TastyLaksa]

Koyasha wrote...

NaclynE wrote...
But why does the Warden thing work for Duncan and not you? LOL.

In Lothering, it's more understandable since at that point in the game there's more than a little question in the NPC's eyes as to your actual rights and so on, due to the false story being spread about the Wardens.

I found it much more annoying in the case at Redcliffe, where there seems to be no option to use the Right of Conscription to 'take custody' of a certain mage there.  While I understand they might have wanted to avoid making that character a full party member, it would have been an easy out to force the Joining - since you're conscripting him you must properly induct him into the Wardens, and just have it kill him.

Indeed, so far I haven't encountered a single opportunity to make use of the Wardens' right of conscription, which I was hoping to have feature in at least one companion's story.  A reluctant person being conscripted and a person being conscripted away from people who don't want to let them go would be interesting companion-stories.

DLC! EVERYONE SAY DLC! 

Then maybe it would come true

[Fryce]

Periodiko wrote...

Elves are a lithe, pointy-eared race who excel at poverty.

The best Sten quote: "No." Take your pick.

"There is no cake..The cake is a lie".
This one quote made me use sten on my next playthrough. If you get him early enough by skipping XP (Around level 5..maybe 4 if your pushing it..) You can make him one bad ass duel specialist dual wielding warrior actually.

He actually is the character that respects and pushes you into your warden's truel goal THE MOST but perhaps too much for some people

Edit:

TastyLaksa wrote...

Koyasha wrote...

NaclynE wrote...
But why does the Warden thing work for Duncan and not you? LOL.

In
Lothering, it's more understandable since at that point in the game
there's more than a little question in the NPC's eyes as to your actual
rights and so on, due to the false story being spread about the Wardens.

I found
it much more annoying in the case at Redcliffe, where there seems to be
no option to use the Right of Conscription to 'take custody' of a
certain mage there.  While I understand they might have wanted to avoid
making that character a full party member, it would have been an easy
out to force the Joining - since you're conscripting him you must properly induct him into the Wardens, and just have it kill him.

Indeed,
so far I haven't encountered a single opportunity to make use of
the Wardens' right of conscription, which I was hoping to have feature
in at least one companion's story.  A reluctant person being
conscripted and a person being conscripted away from people who don't
want to let them go would be interesting companion-stories.

DLC! EVERYONE SAY DLC! 

Then maybe it would come true

Lets not forget that half of the population and the current RULER of ferelden during most of your playthrough does  have a very skewed view of the wardens. Theres an undertone that the "Right of conscription" is being ignored due to the disgrace of the wardens at Ostagar being spread among the populous..as the right is already not widely happily accepted prior to these events..think human noble origins and the protest of the Teryn.

Nevertheless I think if they did invoke this option I would be conscripting the many chickens of that weird quirky village Haven

Modifié par SharpneI, 07 décembre 2009 - 10:44 .

[LunSei Sleidee]

Aaaawwww, so much Sten hate in this thread. He is by far my favorite of all the companions. I can accept not liking him as a character, but claiming that he is a boring one? No way!

I never really had problems getting Sten to like my mage, so I don't understand why i hear people complaining that he disapproves. Sure, even at +86 approval he's still making comments about how he'd be so much of a better leader than this human female, but he's just a bit grumpy by nature.

Also, Sten is NOT evil at all. He's just got different moral views, and quite a bit of a temper. But if you get to know him just a little bit, you can see that he is definitely very, very far from being evil. I suppose people who claim the Sten is evil, haven't done much more than talking to him when he ios in the cell. None of the companions is really evil I think, but if we were to do a contest of nastyness between them, well, Morrigan is definitely a lot worse than Sten.

[Chezdon]

I really dislike both Sten and Leliana. Leliana has the most annoying voice and Sten because he's rubbish. He dies so quickly and I just dislike 2 handers in general. Takes too long to swing, and if you miss that's it for another 5 minutes.



Just my opinion of course!

[kevinwastaken]

Sten is a moron. He thinks the Qunari are going to conquer Ferelden. I look forward to paving the Royal highway with Qunari bodies.