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[Giggles_Manically]

How can I forget the DARKSIDE facial scars.

That was so lame.



I go to so much work to make a face that I will be able to look at for forty some odd hours, I dont want it too look like the Terminator if I say something mean.

[Felene]

adam_grif wrote...
*snip
- Thermal clips and modern mechs showing up on Jacob's loyalty mission. WHOOPS.
*snip

That's a good one.

Bioware: "A space wizard did it!"

[Lilitv]

Gratituous biotic glow. Everytime I see Jack and Samara do that, I wanted to say "Stop that! You'll only tire yourself out and I'm not letting you get more rations."

[Zulu_DFA]

Let's not forget Legion's getting insta-healed with medigel!



Well, it's not "hang it by neck" actually, rather kinda hilarious, like everything about Legion, but still, hey, WTF, BioWare?

[Saibh]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Let's not forget Legion's getting insta-healed with medigel!

Well, it's not "hang it by neck" actually, rather kinda hilarious, like everything about Legion, but still, hey, WTF, BioWare?

The quarians lied--golems are the precursors of the geth, and from them they learned the skills of drinking poultices and applied it to medi-gel.

Modifié par Saibh, 10 octobre 2010 - 05:19 .

[Zan51]

It's not like it was as bad as that Disney film, The Black Hole, is it? It had problems, but some were more to make the characters attractive to the younger players, I am sure.

My main gripes were the lack of space suits, helmets, and more importantly, Space Battle Armor on anyone but Shepard and to an extent Zaeed! I loathed the spandex suited Miranda and Jacob. I could not bear to ever take Jacob with me again as soon as I got Zaeed! Ugh! Dumped Miranda as fast as I could too. Their gear was impractical even for ship life, never mind suitable for space.
High heels even ON a space ship. Way to break an ankle at the first bit of chop in an atmosphere.
Let's not talk about Jack's lack of outfit outside the ship, we all agree on that.
Lack of crew quarters. No, those racked hot beds don't work, cos even on an aircraft carrier the crew have a bunk where the bed lifts up to provide a stowage space, and lockers, all in a crew area! People need to get away from their work space and relax to work at top efficiency.
Lack of Team quarters. Nowhere for Jacob, Mordin, Samara, Tali and Grunt to sleep. Jack and Thane at least had camp beds. IF they are such specialists, they should at least have had a camp bed where they were! TIM knew they were going to be on board after all. Just SO much wasted space on one hand, and needed quarters not provided on the other. The port & starboad veiwing rooms given over to Kasumi and Samara should have been dorms to sleep more of the specialists. Who needs a damned viewing room on a warship?

I'm gonna shut up now..

[Mox Ruuga]

Mallissin wrote...

I take personal offense at the "there are no blondes in the future" bull****. There have been blondes for at least 30,000 years before now, but in a hundred years they're all gone? Someone needs to revisit high school level biology and mathematics.

Strawberry blonde will be around a very long time, if I have anything to do about it.

Luckily, the games seem to have largely ignored this... error. I think it's only brought up in the books... And people of various ethnicities are clearly everywhere in the games. Ethnicities and nationalities even, I should say.

[mosor]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

I take personal offense at the "there are no blondes in the future" bull****. There have been blondes for at least 30,000 years before now, but in a hundred years they're all gone? Someone needs to revisit high school level biology and mathematics.

Strawberry blonde will be around a very long time, if I have anything to do about it.

Luckily, the games seem to have largely ignored this... error. I think it's only brought up in the books... And people of various ethnicities are clearly everywhere in the games. Ethnicities and nationalities even, I should say.

I found it kinda dumb that in the books, the author is basing genetic diversity though purely phenotypical differences. The higest levels of genetic diversity occurs in Africa, yet they're mostly black.

[Epic777]

cachx wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

It's possible that you're right, but if you are, then, as I said, most other intelligent species in the ME setting are in danger of endemic inbreeding. 

Or their biologies work around it, because that is how their species evolved. It's only a species like humanity that used to be even more diverse and isn't diverse by their planet's standards that has problems with genetic diversity.

The whole genetic thing is just a case of "Humans Are Special". 

Being chosen to be made into reaper paste is a dark twist on that trope:whistle:

Modifié par Epic777, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:29 .

[scarface71795]

Shandepared wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

The "they are from another planet" argument pretty much covers anything, including thery odd things, such as female quarians and asari having brests and Rachni "genetic memories". I'd cut BioWare some sci-fi slack here.

On the other hand, the things that involve existing knowledge about humans, should be respected, and such things as Shepard's "resurrection" must have a harder explanation.

I'm willing to let the pretty girl aliens slide but not the Humans Are Special thing. We had enough of that in the first game.

Oh well, I guess it just proves humans are the master race destined to rule the galaxy.

I can get behind that.

So all the humans decided to specifically mate with the master Scandinavian  race
amirite?

Modifié par scarface71795, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:41 .

[Zulu_DFA]

All things "Hammerhead" are terrible but its freezing in cold wind is simply beyond good & evil.

[Iakus]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Are you sure it's a Cerberus logo and not the logo of one of their front companies? Jack may have recognized it, but she's been researching Cerberus for years.

Yeah, I think it's sort of established somewhere that it's meant to be Cord-Hislop, Inc. logo. It's a Cerberus front spacecraft manufacturing company Paul Grayson was working for. The Normandy SR-2 may be registered as property of that company.

Where was that revealed?  Not in-game, I assume. 

 But given it's on the ships, uniforms, computers, mission reports, and maybe their toothbrushes, the symbol seems to go beyond "front company logo"

Modifié par iakus, 10 octobre 2010 - 04:52 .

[Zulu_DFA]

iakus wrote...

But given it's on the ships, uniforms, computers, mission reports, and maybe their toothbrushes, the symbol seems to go beyond "front company logo"

Let's hope that with all the fuss about the Cerberus front companies coming of the Grayson's files, they'll be more careful with where they put those logos in ME3.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:19 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

The nitpicking is strong in this thread.

adam_grif wrote...

Boobs in space

High heels

Yeeees. So bad.

Adding to the list:

- Everything about the Asari.

Why do so many people dislike attractive females in Mass Effect?

[Ieldra]

Here's my list:



* The human Reaper and the reasoning for liquifying humans



* Scions - or any other monster made from human bodies or body parts



* Exposed skin in space



* Samara's superhero cutscene...and her superhero outfit.



* Everything having to do with inter-species sexual attraction and "space babes".



The list of things I can only shake my head at is longer, but these are what I simply cannot ignore. I could make my peace with things in ME1, but then came ME2 and and the absolutely last straw - the expanded Body Horror.

[Hela]

Many of the things have been pointed out here already. Boobs-In-Space-Syndrome making my top 5 list...



Other than that, winning Samara-The-Space-Samurai over. All it takes is bending a knee with some fancy blue light an we´re done.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Shandepared wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Why do so many people dislike attractive females in Mass Effect?

Not everyone is as shallow as you are.

Um, ouch.

I'm shallow because i don't feel attractive females (Something that, believe it or not, is very prevalent in real life) should be stripped from a game because of the insecure people like you?

Nice.

[Phaedon]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

The nitpicking is strong in this thread.

Oh it's natural. See, with the last DLC being a month old, ME2 being almost a year old and a ME3 announcement not coming at least until the end of the month, all topics have been discussed and now only complaining and nitpicking are the common topics.

[adam_grif]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Why do so many people dislike attractive females in Mass Effect?

It's because we're all a bunch of closet homosexuals who feel insecure when attractive women are around. Or maybe it's got nothing to do with that ridiculous straw-man you're happily wailing on in the corner there, and is actually to do with suspension of disbelief being violated by the fact that half of the characters on your team look like they just walked off the set of a Mass Effect Porno Spoof.

[Ieldra]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Why do so many people dislike attractive females in Mass Effect?

I like the attractive (human) females in the game. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept *alien* individuals looking like attractive women.

[Burdokva]

The human genetic diversity thing. It makes no sense at all. And before Saibh pops in to tell me I've never met aliens (for the record, last time I met aliens was in 2008 in the original Mass Effect, with a detailed Codex on them), pure logic beats all. So how come asari, who have interstellar travel for thousands of years, have colonized tens of worlds, maybe hundreds, and can process the genetic data of pretty much every species they mate with, are less diverse than humans? Even if by some stroke of luck they all come from a single proto-parent, like our "mitochondrial Eve", they have not become greatly diverse genetically after being exposed to various different ecosystems and mating with half a dozen different species over centuries?

Also, squad member suits. Going comic-book style where each one must be furiously individualistic and the expense of common sense and realism isn't ehat I expected in Mass Effect. Exposed boobs, latex suit and breathers in space just look ridiculous. I can only imagine the horror of the quarian captain when Shepard takes Jack along.

Renegade: I only have to take this helmet off and breathe, and...
Quarian: Spare it, your half naked team member has shed so much skin that by now half the ship is infected.

Human Reaper. Great idea, bad realization. It looked like the Terminator, and those glass suspension points, really?

Lastly, superhero biotics. They really went over-the-top in Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par Burdokva, 10 octobre 2010 - 09:50 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

adam_grif wrote...

It's because we're all a bunch of closet homosexuals who feel insecure when attractive women are around. Or maybe it's got nothing to do with that ridiculous straw-man you're happily wailing on in the corner there, and is actually to do with suspension of disbelief being violated by the fact that half of the characters on your team look like they just walked off the set of a Mass Effect Porno Spoof.

The only squadmates that even mildly resemble your description are Miranda and Samara. TWO squadmates.

While i do agree that Samara should wear some kind of battle armour while on missions, when she dresses casually there is NOTHING wrong with her outfit. From an RP perspective, the asari are very well known for their sexuality, and are known to be a lot more open with it then any other species. Samara is no exception, she is just like any other asari. In fact the only exception i know of is Liara.

Miranda on the other hand, does dress a bit inappropriately. But one out of 12 aint bad. Sure is far off your massive exaggeration of half the crew.

Ieldra2 wrote...
I like the attractive (human) females in the game. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept *alien* individuals looking like attractive women.

So you would rather hideous 10 eyed monsters with no elbows? You don't believe that it's possible for alien races (Asari) to have developed along similar paths as humans?

[Ieldra]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
So you would rather hideous 10 eyed monsters with no elbows? You don't believe that it's possible for alien races (Asari) to have developed along similar paths as humans?

Similar lines, yes. Meaning anthropomorphic, two legs, two arms, head with braincase and sensory organs, the principle of things going in at the upper and exiting on the lower end.

But consider how little it takes a human face to go off into the Uncanny Valley. And then consider how the asari face isn't just anthropomorphic, it's human. The eyes, the shape of the mouth and nose, the general human female body shape with the hip and waist all shaped *exactly* as to be sexual attractive to a human male. Sorry, to think that a species on a different star system could look identical to a human, that's preposterous. Even assuming some sort of parallel evolution - which explains the turians, the drell, the batarians and salarians well enough - something like the asari just won't happen. Unless the species was artificially created to resemble humans.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 octobre 2010 - 10:15 .