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[Finnegone]

An odd question, I know, but after seeing this picture of her it would appear that she bears the same sort of horns as a female qunari:

http://nightmaremode.../07/flemdes.jpg

This could be what Morrigan is referring to when she reveals that Flemeth is neither an abomination nor "entirely human"

Or perhaps she just got her hair did.

[IrishSpectre257]

It's just her hair, which resembles a Dragon's crest/horns/whatever, for obvious reasons.

[D.Kain]

Maybe her new body is a female qunari? She does change body from time to time.

[David Gaider]

I've seen this assumption before, and it's a little bizarre-- why would Flemeth be a qunari? Does she look like one, aside from the dragon-like horns in her hair? One assumes she could maybe change shape into a qunari if she chose, but... why?

Modifié par David Gaider, 10 octobre 2010 - 04:34 .

[Meltemph]

It actually looks more like someone who worships dragons, the hair that is... Dragon horns they definitely resemble.

Of course she also seems to have some connection, in some way shape or form to Andraste, but call me crazy.

Modifié par Meltemph, 10 octobre 2010 - 04:36 .

[upsettingshorts]

David Gaider wrote...

I've seen this assumption before, and it's a little bizarre-- why would Flemeth be a qunari? Does she look like one, aside from the dragon-like horns in her hair? One assumes she could maybe change shape into a qunari if she chose, but... why?

Because unlike with the Qunari, no-one from Bioware has ruled out a Flemeth romance yet.  That's how these forums work!

Ok, now that I'm done talking out of my ass... I have no idea. 

[Meltemph]

I thought shifters couldn't do that.

The way Morrigan worded it, she seemed to imply they could, but there would be very little reason to(according to her), but she never said they can't.

[steelfire_dragon]

Flemeth is Flemeth, and maybe you should of asked if she is in actuality an aspect of Andraste, and can appear however she wants.....





( my money is that she is one of the elven gods of old)

[Saibh]

David Gaider wrote...

I've seen this assumption before, and it's a little bizarre-- why would Flemeth be a qunari? Does she look like one, aside from the dragon-like horns in her hair? One assumes she could maybe change shape into a qunari if she chose, but... why?

When I assumed this, I hadn't seen the qunari females yet. But she has horns, her hands are gauntleted with claws, so there's no telling if she has actual claws like qunari men, she has white hair (as opposed to old-lady grey), and qunari tend to have non-human colored eyes--like yellow, which Flemeth didn't have in the first game, but Morrigan did.

[Finnegone]

David Gaider wrote...

I've seen this assumption before, and it's a little bizarre-- why would Flemeth be a qunari? Does she look like one, aside from the dragon-like horns in her hair? One assumes she could maybe change shape into a qunari if she chose, but... why?

I can see how, from your perspective, this sort of speculation might seem bizarre - but, in all things Dragon Age, you have the benefit of omniscience. We fans have little information to work with - particularly as it involves the rather mysterious Flemeth, a character that has thus far managed to defy all attempts at definition, being known to us instead as a series of "not's" (so far: abomination, blood mage, human).

And why not change shape into a Qunari? They're so adorable - and we know how much Flemeth loves to be cuddled.

[Brockololly]

filaminstrel wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

One assumes she could maybe change shape into a qunari

I thought shifters couldn't do that. Shifting into other people. Unless other races don't count? ..Or Flemeth doesn't count? Or Morrigan was wrong, and they can, but she's just a novice compared to Flemeth?

Here it is from the toolset:

Warden: Can you change into other human forms, as well?

Morrigan: The form of an animal is different from my own. One may study the  creature, learn to move as it does, think as it does.

Morrigan: In time, this allows one to become as it is.

Morrigan: I gain nothing by studying another human. I already am the same as they are, I learn nothing. So the answer is no, my human form is the only one I possess.

So I think its more along the lines that  based on the shapeshifting Flemeth has taught Morrigan, Morrigan would  not be able to learn another human form. That said though, Flemeth can indeed change her human form. Whether thats advanced training she never gave Morrigan or an aspect of her super abomination status Morrigan hints at in Witch Hunt, I don't  know.

I highly, highly doubt Flemeth's "true" form is a Qunari just because she has spiky hair after her "hot rod samurai" extreme makeover.

Mary Kirby answered this question on Flemeth's new look a while ago rather nicely:

Mary Kirby wrote...
"She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed  to be able to kill men with fear. She's both a seductress and a hag.  She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm  just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my  daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...

I would advise you that in any dealings with Flemeth, be confident of nothing."

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 octobre 2010 - 05:00 .

[Mr. Man]

No

[upsettingshorts]

[quote]Mary Kirby wrote...
I would advise you that in any dealings with Flemeth, be confident of nothing."[/quote]

[/quote]

I'm confident I wouldn't want her commanding my starship.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 10 octobre 2010 - 05:01 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...
I would advise you that in any dealings with Flemeth, be confident of nothing."

I'm confident I wouldn't want her commanding my starship.

Perhaps that's the real story of DA2? Flemeth using Hawke as a tool in her epic voyage home to Ferelden, to start doing...I don't know, this is where the parody breaks down.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 10 octobre 2010 - 05:21 .

[Bootsykk]

I'm just going to make this short: I have a feeling Flemeth's appearance has to do entirely with her gaining of power throughout the series.

Flemeth (DA:O): Normal old hag.

Morrigan (DA:O): Though not exactly Flemeth herself, she was in the "bloodline". Normal human, yellow eyes.

Flemeth (DA2): Victoria's Secret model with a face transplant. Yellow dragon-ish eyes, horn-like dragon hair. When shapeshifted, fatter dragon backside.

[marshalleck]

This is almost as weird as the "maybe the Black City is a dragon" thread.



Almost.

[TheBlackBaron]

marshalleck wrote...

This is almost as weird as the "maybe the Black City is a dragon" thread.

Almost.

I thought the Black City was a space station?

[Firky]

Hey. I just noticed this too - and totally posted it somewhere else instead of here, but here is better.



My question is why would Flemeth do her hair like qunari horns?

[marshalleck]

Firky wrote...

My question is why would Flemeth do her hair like qunari horns?

She didn't. She put it up like dragon horns. 

[TheBlackBaron]

Firky wrote...

Hey. I just noticed this too - and totally posted it somewhere else instead of here, but here is better.

My question is why would Flemeth do her hair like qunari horns?

As marshall said, I would imagine it's to visually emphasize her ability to shapeshift into a dragon.

There's also a number of other reasons I can think of, but those are all just speculation.

[marshalleck]

I think a better question is this: why do horns all look similar in Dragon Age?

To answer that, I would argue that it's for stylistic consistency. You see an ogre's distinctive horns, or a dragon's, or a qunari's (they all look similar to ogres from DA1) and think to yourself "oh, that's Dragon Age!" This was one of their goals with the new art direction.

Also, I expect one or more of the artists just really dig how the horns look. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:38 .

[TheBlackBaron]

marshalleck wrote...

I think a better question is this: why do horns all look similar in Dragon Age?

To answer that, I would argue that it's for stylistic consistency. You see an ogre's distinctive horns, or a dragon's, or a qunari's (they all look similar to ogres from DA1) and think to yourself "oh, that's Dragon Age!" This was one of their goals with the new art direction.

Also, I expect one or more of the artists just really dig how the horns look. 

Horns are a sign of virility amongst ogres, qunari, and super-abomintions, I guess.

[marshalleck]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

I think a better question is this: why do horns all look similar in Dragon Age?

To answer that, I would argue that it's for stylistic consistency. You see an ogre's distinctive horns, or a dragon's, or a qunari's (they all look similar to ogres from DA1) and think to yourself "oh, that's Dragon Age!" This was one of their goals with the new art direction.

Also, I expect one or more of the artists just really dig how the horns look. 

Horns are a sign of virility amongst ogres, qunari, and super-abomintions, I guess.

Well Flemeth's handlebars are certainly consistent with her new armor as well, then. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:42 .