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[Sariusmonk]

Well, I know that seems like a bit of a dumb question, I've only beaten the game once now, as my main character the human noble warrior, and there's a few ways I feel this can end;

Impregnate Morrigan - she leaves with the baby with the old-god (I chose this ending)

You take the taint and die (? you might not die, dunno)

You have Alistair / Loghain take the taint and they die (or they might not?)



Now, I'm curious about, if there is to be a Dragon Age sequel whether it'll do the similair thing to Mass Effect 2 and "continue" your plot decisions (that'll be one heck of a job) or whether there is a "proper" ending?

It feels like a true ending to me, that I survived, as did all my allies (except Alistair, I let the Queen execute him) and that Morrigan is out with this old-god baby, that feels almost crucial to any sequel, yet if you chose not to take this path, this will be completely avoided?

What do people think? If there's a sequel will it be important that Morrigan did recieve the old god essence into her unborn baby? Or will it not be so important?

Also I'm a little confused with the ending, I heard some people say that Morrigan thinks of you, or something, and you hear about this, if you had the ring, or something, but I gave my ring to Morrigan, so obviously when the game was over and she left, so did the ring, so I miss out on that? I did go for the romance with Morrigan, and it was quite rough to have her go, the writers did an amazing job with the game, it's probably the best RPG I've played to date.

Also, I'm not sure whether this is normal or not, but after I saw my character defeat the Archdemon, it cut straight to the celebration hall area,.. I read somewhere that someone saw Morrigan "leave" the party? Where as to me, she simply wasn't there,.. the darkspawn did this big explosion on the roof, and then I was in the celebration halls,... hmmm

Anyway, yeah, sorry I went off a bit at the end, but, what do you guys think is your official ending, if you've heard about the various endings?

[Krenmu]

Honestly..the "Official ending" in my opinion...is whatever ending you choose, I don't believe they would alienate a large portion of the population by saying "Yes..this is they way it is, all you other people played the game wrong."

[Reiella]

Krenmu wrote...

Honestly..the "Official ending" in my opinion...is whatever ending you choose, I don't believe they would alienate a large portion of the population by saying "Yes..this is they way it is, all you other people played the game wrong."

What about the people who never finished their origin story .

[Krenmu]

Reiella wrote...

Krenmu wrote...

Honestly..the "Official ending" in my opinion...is whatever ending you choose, I don't believe they would alienate a large portion of the population by saying "Yes..this is they way it is, all you other people played the game wrong."

What about the people who never finished their origin story .

Thats kind of an ending in and of itself isn't it?

[Reiella]

Krenmu wrote...

Reiella wrote...

Krenmu wrote...

Honestly..the "Official ending" in my opinion...is whatever ending you choose, I don't believe they would alienate a large portion of the population by saying "Yes..this is they way it is, all you other people played the game wrong."

What about the people who never finished their origin story .

Thats kind of an ending in and of itself isn't it?

Exactly, so quite possibly, the Archdemon was never defeated is a potential ending .

[Mordern]

Well there are only four or so 'Major' endings:



1. Accept Morrigan's offer, she has a god-baby, no one dies but she vanishes without a word.



2. Kill the Archdemon yourself, you die.



3. Alistair kills the Archdemon, he dies.



4. Loghain joins your party, causing Alistair to leave. Loghain kills the Archdemon and dies.



However, take into account that there are also a lot of minor points.



Who you make the next ruler, for example. Which companions you keep, which wander off, what you decide to do, what request you make to the King/Queen, all sorts of things. As such, I'm not sure there's any real 'canon' ending. What you do in Ferelden is what happens. As simple as that.



First time through, I was romancing Morrigan. I turned down her offer on principle and the hope that she'd show up again later. I set Alistair up to be king, but he refused to let me take the killing blow and sacrificed himself. Anora became queen and the Warden set off to search for Morrigan as the rest of the companions drifted away. Pretty bittersweet, sad ending.



Second time, I was romancing Lelianna, but I convinced Alistair to have the superbaby with Morrigan and marry Anora to rule together. No one died, Lelianna and the Warden journied off together, King and Queen did good things, all that happy stuff. Very happy ending.



My point is that there are so many ways the final bit can play out which lead to so many different 'moods'. They're all plausible and I doubt one of them will be declared the 'real' ending.

[Slayn666]

This assumes that the sequel will be a direct continuation of the story from this game, which may not be the case. It's possible that sequel won't reference the events from the first game at all, although I doubt that would happen since the situation with Morrigan is a pretty big deal.

[Krenmu]

Or..It could be such a case that the references would be made through books..or history or codex...there are many ways to go with it.

[Sariusmonk]

Exactly, I feel that the event with Morrigan is so big that it'd have to be part of a Sequel, and thus "canon" but, that'd be unfair to people who played it a different way.



Still, it does feel a majorly big plot point.



I guess either way she leaves the party and is on her own, maybe she never has a baby, or maybe it's just a regular baby, so if she is in any sequels with a child, it's just an ordinary baby (to the player, they will think "Oh it's just a baby, she met someone" oooor "Is that a baby with an old-god inside of it?" depending on how they played the original)



It might not even be important.

[BwenGun]

Well I remember that in the KOTOR games there is a definite Canon storyline attached to the game, however that is mostly because there needed to be for the spin-off comic book series and then TOR mmo. As for Dragon Age... I dunno, I'm sure the writers probably have a preffered ending, which if they ever tell might well be considered canon.

[Mordern]

Yeah, but in KOTOR there were literally two different endings.



There are well over that in Dragon Ages. Like... a lot more.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Mass Effect had several possible endings as well, vis a vis who lived, who died. The politics of citadel space. The person you chose as ambassador. The Rachni...etc

Now I realise that there are more variations in Dragon Age. But if they manage to do it right in Mass Effect 2, which I do not doubt will be great, then it could serve as a source of inspiration for Dragon Age 2.

[Reiella]

BwenGun wrote...

Well I remember that in the KOTOR games there is a definite Canon storyline attached to the game, however that is mostly because there needed to be for the spin-off comic book series and then TOR mmo. As for Dragon Age... I dunno, I'm sure the writers probably have a preffered ending, which if they ever tell might well be considered canon.

It's the need of the product IP for Knights, much like it was for BG [if you weren't a human male fighter bhaalspawn, you were wrong].  Largely depends on how much they are able to capitaliize on the IP as to if it becomes relevant.

There is the P&P RPG coming out as well for instance that may also establish canon, depending on the when it is set and what modules it puts forth.

[Sariusmonk]

I have another question actually, I noticed Arl Eamon in the fight vs the Archdemon at the end, and he was SO close to dying,... I managed to keep him alive with heals from Morrigan / Wynn,..



Does it even make a difference if he lives or dies? I didn't see him during the ending, but he was mentioned.... Will he be mentioned as dead if he died in the fight?



I know that some of the NPC's in the undead invasion part of the redcliff battle will either die or survive based on if you heal them, and it affects some dialogue

[Mordern]

Well the Archdemon gnawed on him a bit during my fight and I think he died, but he was alive and kicking in the ceremony that followed.

[AustrianAndI]

It doesn't matter if he lives or dies. I saw first enchanter Irving die from a corruption blast to the dome and he was still in my ending.



As for "canon" endings, the only thing I would consider 100% canon, only because it's freakin' sweet story-wise and has boatloads of potential for a sequel would be that Morrigan had the crazy child inside of her and is gone. I still think there is a lot to Morrigan and Flemmeth that we do not know.

[Reiella]

Sariusmonk wrote...

I have another question actually, I noticed Arl Eamon in the fight vs the Archdemon at the end, and he was SO close to dying,... I managed to keep him alive with heals from Morrigan / Wynn,..

Does it even make a difference if he lives or dies? I didn't see him during the ending, but he was mentioned.... Will he be mentioned as dead if he died in the fight?

I know that some of the NPC's in the undead invasion part of the redcliff battle will either die or survive based on if you heal them, and it affects some dialogue

Not really.  First Enchanter Irving popped in for mine and died.  Was still hanging out in the final scene though.

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Seems Irving has trouble staying alive for more than just me heh.

Modifié par Reiella, 12 novembre 2009 - 02:15 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

To the original poster I would so that there shouldn't be. Personally for the sake of KOTOR I don't pay attention to the "canon" because its a Bioware game foremost, and to me personally I don't really think of it is as much of a Star Wars game as more of a Bioware game and because you have similar options to choose in KOTOR 2 that resemble what you did as a character the canon element seems pointless as it had no real bearing on the film universe. The same goes with Dragon Age, the backstory novels and other things tied with this are set in stone but making a canon ending would make most of our playthroughs rather pointless and would defeat the whole "shape the world" angle that Bioware had been going for.

[Krenmu]

Yea..if they had a "Canon" ending..It would basically say "Well you see, this is the way we meant for it to end, all the other ways are wrong, so this is where we are putting the sequel"..that just doesn't seem like something BioWare would pull..

[DeepGray]

Reiella wrote...

Sariusmonk wrote...

I have another question actually, I noticed Arl Eamon in the fight vs the Archdemon at the end, and he was SO close to dying,... I managed to keep him alive with heals from Morrigan / Wynn,..

Does it even make a difference if he lives or dies? I didn't see him during the ending, but he was mentioned.... Will he be mentioned as dead if he died in the fight?

I know that some of the NPC's in the undead invasion part of the redcliff battle will either die or survive based on if you heal them, and it affects some dialogue

Not really.  First Enchanter Irving popped in for mine and died.  Was still hanging out in the final scene though.

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Seems Irving has trouble staying alive for more than just me heh.

Confirmed. Arl Eamon decided to tank the Archdemon in our battle and promply died (couldn't revive either, I actually tried because I thought it was affect the ending) but he was fine and dandy during the epilogue.

[AirWonderCross]

I just hope that Bioware makes the expansion (hopefully there is one) so that the game continues off where you left off. So if you were king or queen, then in the next expansion you are the king or queen. Or if you had a baby with Morrigan, then you're goal would to find her. And if you let Loghain kill the Archdemon, maybe you would want to seek out Alistair.



There is really no canon ending, just looking at their games there really never was a canon ending.

[Maria Caliban]

Does there need to be?



Dragon Age has 1,500 of history to it. They have an entire continent and even some of the world fleshed out. Ferelden is a backwater country, and there are three archdemons left.

[MrKrisSatan]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Does there need to be?

Dragon Age has 1,500 of history to it. They have an entire continent and even some of the world fleshed out. Ferelden is a backwater country, and there are three archdemons left.

you assume that every story in the dragon age world has to involve the grey wardens, the blight and an archdemon?

[DeepGray]

MrKrisSatan wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Does there need to be?

Dragon Age has 1,500 of history to it. They have an entire continent and even some of the world fleshed out. Ferelden is a backwater country, and there are three archdemons left.

you assume that every story in the dragon age world has to involve the grey wardens, the blight and an archdemon?

I would honestly except something that would have to do with the Grey Wardens.

[Maria Caliban]

MrKrisSatan wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Does there need to be?

Dragon Age has 1,500 of history to it. They have an entire continent and even some of the world fleshed out. Ferelden is a backwater country, and there are three archdemons left.

you assume that every story in the dragon age world has to involve the grey wardens, the blight and an archdemon?

No, I'm not sure where you got that idea. As far as I know, the Grey Wardens and Blight don't even exist outside of Thedas.

Whoa. Deja vu.

I think we've had this discussion before.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 12 novembre 2009 - 04:17 .