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[Blado123]

I've been trying to find some information of warrior archers but I can't find any up to date information. Does anyone know what the best build, stats, and gear is for them?

[termokanden]

I like light armor myself and high dex myself. If you have the right gear, you barely need to put any points into strength. But you can go with heavy armor if you want.

For specialization, whatever you want really. I think Champion is the best. Templar can let you get high spell resist. You CAN use Berserking with ranged weapons if you activate it with a melee weapon, but I would find that pretty annoying.

Gearwise, the best weapon is Far Song (look it up, it's tricky to get). There isn't really one set of gear that's best, but here's a list of things to look for:

Key to the City
Harvest Festival Ring
Lifegiver (if you need more health)
The Spellward
Andruil's Blessing/Cinch of Skillful Maneuvering
Helm of Honnleath
Repeater Gloves
Cadash Stompers
Battledress of the Provocateur/The Felon's Coat (if you wear light armor)

Note that the Repeater Gloves reduce your aim time more than other Rapid Aim items. That's why they're good.

For Awakening, I prefer to get 25 strength (with gear) and then pour everything else into dex. Then pick Spirit Warrior as your specialization.

Modifié par termokanden, 11 octobre 2010 - 05:02 .

[Elhanan]

I would recommend heavy armor; not massive due to the slower RoF. Then you only require 38 STR, and most of the rest into DEX.

[termokanden]

Yep. Heavy armor it is, forgot about the RoF. I never liked the approach myself, always used light armor, even for my warrior. The light armor you can get is awesome too.

Oh and by the way, you COULD build a ranged/DW hybrid very easily. Actually, it takes only a couple of talent points to make a DW build able to use bows efficiently, since the activated abilities are mostly horrible.

Modifié par termokanden, 11 octobre 2010 - 05:07 .

[Blado123]

Do you know of a good order for getting skills? I Don't want to really be a duel wield hybrid because I already played through the game as a dual wield warrior.

[miltos33]

If I were a pure archer I would try to get Scattershot as soon as possible, then I would go for the Master Archer line, and leave the Arrow of Slaying line for the end.

[Elhanan]

miltos33 wrote...

If I were a pure archer I would try to get Scattershot as soon as possible, then I would go for the Master Archer line, and leave the Arrow of Slaying line for the end.

This advice, plus adding Duelist for any melee needs you may face. You do not have to go DW; can use 2H or S&S, too (though 2H may be rather slow; have not used this myself).

[termokanden]

As a warrior, he can't add Duelist. I suggested Champion because it's an all-round good spec. There isn't really any warrior specialization that's particularly good for archers, except for Spirit Warrior from Awakening.



As a 2h fan, I have to comment that it's only actually slow in the beginning. It becomes very talent-spammy at level 10-12 or so.

[Elhanan]

termokanden wrote...

As a warrior, he can't add Duelist. I suggested Champion because it's an all-round good spec. There isn't really any warrior specialization that's particularly good for archers, except for Spirit Warrior from Awakening.

As a 2h fan, I have to comment that it's only actually slow in the beginning. It becomes very talent-spammy at level 10-12 or so.

Sorry; my lack of sleep is starting to show.

For Warrior specs, I like Champion and Templar for the Knockdown talents.

For a DEX based archer hybrid, I have read that some suggest taking the S&S middle tier for anti-KD Shield Wall. And while I like a Warrior 2H, mixing with archery is precarious; perhaps done with just a min needed for DEX, and going mostly 2H and STR.

[termokanden]

Yeah I wouldn't go for 2h and archery at the same time. In any case, 2h requires MANY points in strength to work well, and it also requires taking pretty much all the 2h talents because you should be cycling through them.

For Warrior specs, I like Champion and Templar for the Knockdown talents.

I agree about this. If you are a DW warrior, Berserker is pretty good. Not sure it's worth it for anyone else though.

Modifié par termokanden, 11 octobre 2010 - 10:58 .

[Viktor McCury]

Elhanan wrote...

miltos33 wrote...

If I were a pure archer I would try to get Scattershot as soon as possible, then I would go for the Master Archer line, and leave the Arrow of Slaying line for the end.

This advice, plus adding Duelist for any melee needs you may face. You do not have to go DW; can use 2H or S&S, too (though 2H may be rather slow; have not used this myself).

Maybe Dagger and shield. If you'll auto attack durig mellee I would bet on faster w. speed. Take a point in poison making is also a good idea (bombs are always handy)

[Eliadur]

For warrior-archer, I tinkered around with 16 str and max dex, and champion/templar. With Key to the City and the Harvest Festival ring, you can wear tier 7 light armor (Dalish armor set, Drakeskin set for dragon fights, or mix and match with gear that enhance bow attack speed - I just don't like the added hostility of cadash stomper's on my archer) and the helm of Honnleath. It's pretty much the same build as a rogue archer, you just get a different set of passives and sustained from the warrior class. You can also modify the build a little so you can hybrid into the SnS path, but use a dagger instead of a sword.

Modifié par Eliadur, 15 octobre 2010 - 09:06 .

[Mccoyn1990]

On my Warrior Archer I use Wade DragonSkin Armor, Its pretty nice

[termokanden]

I didn't think the added hostility actually did anything, much like the reduced hostility of other items. If there is an effect, it's not noticable. That makes the Cadash Stompers the best boots I think.

Modifié par termokanden, 13 octobre 2010 - 03:27 .

[miltos33]

According to the Wiki Cadash Stompers is the only item in the game which affects hostility and works properly. It adds 5 additional points of threat per hit.

[termokanden]

That's not a whole lot though. Like I said, I didn't notice it.

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Also want to keep an eye out for any gear with rapid aim effect. They can stack with each other. Armsman's Tensioner or Camenae's Barbute for helmet, Repeater Gloves, Falon'Din's Reach (if you can't/don't get Far Song) and Spear-Thrower for bows. Add the Sorrows of Arlathan if you have the Witch Hunt DLC.

As a Warrior, you probably won't be able to get a really high critical chance without both Leliana and Zevren as cunning Bards or until you get to Awakening.

Modifié par Liliandra Nadiar, 13 octobre 2010 - 07:48 .

[Blado123]

So light armor is better for a warrior archer? If so, is Battledress of the provocateur better or is felon's coat better? I have the DLC.



Sorry but the slight necro but I figured that it was better than starting a new thread.

[BootOnFace]

not necessarily. if you don't mind the slower shots, you can use Heavy or even Massive armor. And when you get master archer, heavy won't have any penalty. Evon the Great's Mail is perfect for warrior archers.

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Without the Master Archer talent, a warrior can wear up to medium armor without being slowed down on firing. Master can let you wear heavy without slowing down. The thing to keep in mind with higher tiers of armor is fatigue. Wade's Heavy Dragonscale is an excellent low fatigue, strong bonus armor, more so since you can sub in Evon the Great's Mail and still get the set bonuses.



Rapid aim effects, however, tend to be on light armor though, with one medium armor helmet. If the auto-attacks are not a specific worry for you, heavy armor would work fine.

[Blado123]

I think I'll go light armor. Which of the two light armors mentioned above is better?

[Liliandra Nadiar]

If you want to focus on dodge% or using active talents a lot, Battledress, otherwise Felon's coat has better stat/defense bonuses.

[Jamess225]

The thing is this....ignore armor rating...go for the stats on your gear...since new archery is dex centered you'll be almost unhittable and you'll have 100+ physical resistance. So go for Battledress and Felon's Coat. Proven over 3 playthroughs with both PC and Oghren as warrior archers.

Only thing thing that can damage you are attacks ignoring defense like Ram, but things will drop so fast you don't have to worry bout it.

Like Termokanden wrote Repeater Gloves are a MUST for your PC because Aim will double your crit chance with Accuracy putting you at 90-100% chance from the start.

P.S. I've soloed the Harvester in the Battle Dress on Nightmare with max dex.

Modifié par Jamess225, 17 octobre 2010 - 01:25 .

[Elhanan]

Jamess225 wrote...

The thing is this....ignore armor rating...go for the stats on your gear...since new archery is dex centered you'll be almost unhittable and you'll have 100+ physical resistance. So go for Battledress and Felon's Coat. Proven over 3 playthroughs with both PC and Oghren as warrior archers.

Only thing thing that can damage you are attacks ignoring defense like Ram, but things will drop so fast you don't have to worry bout it.

Like Termokanden wrote Repeater Gloves are a MUST for your PC because Aim will double your crit chance with Accuracy putting you at 90-100% chance from the start.

P.S. I've soloed the Harvester in the Battle Dress on Nightmare with max dex.

Add Evon's mail to that armor list, and you can also ignore attacks like Overwhelm; also Harvester proven, though Battledress worked wonderfully for my AW.