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[EKozski]

Operating System:  Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU: AMD Athlon II x 4 620 Processor Clock Speed 2592 MHz
RAM:  6 GB
Video Card nVidia GeForce 9100 256MB Since it's integrated, I have access to 2.75GB 
Audio: Realtec    
DirectX:  DirectX 10.0

Playing DVD Version

No matter where I'm at in the game, I experience severe lagging issues. This started happening about a week ago.
I can play only about five minutes before the lagging starts. I have to try and save the game, exit, reboot and go back in game. I've been playing the game since the day it came out. I could play for hours on end and never experienced anything like this. It's like something sucked the life out of my computer. The lag continues even after I exit out of the game.

It doesn't only happen with this game, it also affects another EA/Maxis game I have. The Sims 2.

Now, I can play Diablo II: Lord Of Destruction, with no problems whatsoever. I can play, East India Company with no problem. I can play any other games I have and not experience anything. It's only EA/Maxis Games.

I have used the Gibbed Save Editor and the only Mod I have is, replenish ammo. Version 1.02

I have all the DLC. I've got both patches. I've even tried playing the game with no DLC, no editing and no Mod and it still lags. I play with everything turned off and 800x600 resolution. I know my video card is crappy.

So far, I've defragmented my hard drive, updated my video driver, ran a virus scan, uninstalled and reinstalled, cleaned my case out. I'm running out of ideas.

I did manage to take a peek at my Performance Tab as soon as the lag started.

Physical Memory (MB):

Total 5887
Cached 3852
Avaliable 3839
Free 29

CPU Usage 46%

[008Zulu]

EKozski wrote...

Video Card nVidia GeForce 9100 256MB Since it's integrated, I have access to 2.75GB 

Theres your problem.

Intergrated video cards can barely be called video cards, need to get yourself an actual seperate video card.

[SSV Enterprise]

...Diablo II is an ancient game, technically speaking, and East India Company is not a very taxing game either. Neither indicates that you should play modern shooter games fluently. Get a real video card, instead of relying on that weaksauce integrated chip.

[EKozski]

But, why would it effect another EA/Maxis game?!!? The Sims2 isn't that graphically intense. It's nothing more than pixel people.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Intergrated graphic card are for ppl who dont use computers to play games.

You need to buy gtx275 or gtx460 or gtx470 for steady 60fps with 8anti aliasing (forced in drivers) or ati hd4890 or 5850 or 5870

Forget about gaming with integrated cards.

[Fredvdp]

The ME2 box says you need a Geforce 6800 GT or higher. The 9100 doesn't even come near that.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 12 octobre 2010 - 02:25 .

[Gorath Alpha]

EKozski wrote...

But, why would it effect another EA/Maxis game?!!? The Sims2 isn't that graphically intense. It's nothing more than pixel people

.

Comparing vastly different games, and types of games, is nothing but a waste of time.  Mass Effect 1 was also an Unreal Tournament 3 game, as is ME-2.  You can only compare to UT3 based games.  The Geforce integrated chips are quite bad (Intel even has one that is better than the awful 9100, which means that the 9100 sucks hugely, if an Intel chip is able to beat it). 

www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9100M-G.11351.0.html

[EKozski]

The reason I brought the other game up is, it lags just as bad. Same company EA/Maxis. I've been playing that since November with no problem. Until now.

Another thing I was curious about is, when to go to msconfig, click on the Boot Tab, then go to, Advanced Options, it says I'm only using 1 processor. If I have four, why wouldn't it say four?

Modifié par EKozski, 12 octobre 2010 - 03:18 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

it's a myth

windows automatically detects how much cores do you have, its just shows you one (bug confirmed by m$) by chaning that setting you gain nothing (rly) or your pc may slow down a little

just leave it as it is and consider a graphic card

[Gorath Alpha]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

 ...  consider a graphic card

I'd thought that the 9100 wais strictly the very lowest of low end "mobile-only" versions of all the 8400 GS-derived onboard chip graphics offered by nVIDIA in their chipsets.  There is a 9200M discrete card that isn't a bit better, and there are two entirely different (maybe more) Geforce 9300 products.  One is simply the old 8400 GS with a new name, and produced on a thinner die wafer.  The other is the onboard chip for desktop PCs that can perform a variety of "SLI" in conjunction with an actual, discrete video card (Low End) such as the G.210, and improving that card's poor performance slightly. 

I don't recall whether I've ever looked the 9300 IGP up to see how closely related it is to the 8400. 

Based on what I thought that I'd recalled, this thread's author couldn't have done anything about the physical hardware in his system.  I was sure it was  a laptop, and like 95% of the laptops sold, it would have been welded into a solid monobloc during production, and there would have been no empty space inside of it that could be accessed, into which an actual card could have been inserted. 

It seems, however, that I was mistaken about any 9100 IGPs in desktop PC systems.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 novembre 2010 - 07:30 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Do not overlook the environmental interaction hooks that Bioware chose to tie into the graphics system.  When the frame rate is too low, the gamer loses the ability to interact with doors, the aiming mechanism, all manner of things go wonky on really slow systems, and the 9100 is really slow. 

[EKozski]

I ran across someone else that's having the same problem I am on a different forum.



His specs are. Win 7 64bit Home Premium, chugging at 7 frames per second.

Nvidia 8800GTS 512Mb and 4Gb of RAM. (he builds his own computers)



So, I'm wondering if it's a software issue, not hardware.



I was going to try and use system restore to go back about a month. But, the restore points are very limited. As it stands now, I can only go back to yesterday. I only have three choices. All of them are Windows updates.



Is there a way I can go back beyond those three choices listed?

[Gorath Alpha]

The 8800 is an actual video card. You don't have a video card, and can't literally share exact symptoms with anyone who has the real thing. The entire Geforce 8n00 generation of cards ran hot, and was produced with a defective routine in the firmware that mishandled the cooling fan speed adjustments, so they all constantly have trouble with overheating.

The Southbridge** on the nVIDIA chipset doesn't have any fan that its IGP could operate incorrectly, and the firmware error was corrected in the follow-on 8800 cards, and in all of the 9n00 series, which were almost all merely renamed 8n00 cards (well, I did see that the 9800 GT did add a little more performance, so it was more than a mere rename, after all). The 9100 chip is just the 8200 from the year before, and Bioware / EA named both of them as being unsupported in their system requirements.

(** nVIDIA doesn't call their second ASIC a "Southbridge", I know, but I just drew a blank on what they do call it, however, it includes the onboard video silicon as part of its contents.  In edit, I am now thinking their second ASIC may be called the "MSP", or "MCP".)

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 novembre 2010 - 03:25 .

[Kaitheus]

I'd get a dedicated card all your doing in the end is burning out your motherboard playing ME2 on that 9100. I'd atleast look at the 5770s-5830s or 460s-470s depending on your preference at this point



*Note that the 400s take alot more power than the 5000s to run*



kinda redundant really you'd think as tech got better the less power you needed overall. Atleast that's the case with AMD lolz

[EKozski]

Sorry to bring this back up, but I do have a few questions.



After all this time, I've finally started looking at video cards. Now, I've got a 300W PSU. I'm just wondering if there's even a video card out there that'll handle the demands of Mass Effect 2. And, I have DDR2 memory.



One other question I have is, I called HP Tech Support. I have this empty slot on my motherboard. I have no idea what it is, so I called them. Since my warranty has expired, they wanted to charge me between 50-100 bucks to answer my question.....Unreal!



So, I'll ask here. the slot is black in color and it has this lever on it. At least it looks like a lever. So, I'm wondering if that's my PCI-E slot. And, how do I know if it's x16 or x20? I'm totally clueless on all this stuff.



Thank you for the help!

[Gorath Alpha]

www.google.com/imgres

[EKozski]

It looks to be x16. Thank you for that.



Now, I'm still trying to figure out what that "lever" is on the front/side of it.

[CrustyCat]

That locks the card in place. You need a bigger PSU.

[EKozski]

With such limited funds, that's next to impossible.



So, the quest continues. A video card that'll work with a 300W PSU.

[Gorath Alpha]

Here's one:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102843

[EKozski]

System Requirements 400 Watt or greater power supply (550 Watt for ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode) is recommended

[Gorath Alpha]

Not for that one. You've looked it up somewhere that has the wrong information (unless we are referring to a "generic" power supply, and with one of those garbage items, you need 600 watts, since they lie about their capacity some 100% or so). An original equipment 300 from a branded PC works fine with the 4650, although a 350 is wanted for a 4670; from among aftermarket (power supply brand) offerings, 90% of the brands are as bad as a generic.

An Enermax, Fortron, OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, or Sparkle are six of the dozen + / - quality brands I can think of.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

That's a reasonably priced 350 from Sparkle if you want an HD 4670 or HD 5670, or if the PSU you have now is either wearing out already, or was from one of the bad brands that are included in the inexpensive replacement cases from Aspire, Raidmax, and their ilk.

All power supplies wear out, faster than any part on a computer, even the good brands, and that's why an experienced builder will over-specify the PSU size.  Even a good brand can lose as much as 10% of capacity in just a year, and as much or more the second year.  That's why I almost never use less than 450 watts in a new build, and typically use a 550 watt unit.  That gives me a cushion worth several years of upgrading other parts before I have to retire the PSU.

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 novembre 2010 - 05:47 .

[EKozski]

You got me a tad bit confused....lol



You're saying that card will work on my computer?!!? If so, that'll be great!



PSU..........I can't even think of installing one. I wouldn't know where to begin.......