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Spitfire80

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Something struck me the other day, during the short flashes we see Ash with her sending out an SOS her team is wearing Camo coloured armour. Only she is as far as we can tell, the only one in pink. (and white). Now presuming she is off insufficient rank to be allowed to paint her armour the way she wants too. That struck me as being rather odd.

Has there been any official word on this, was she the designated medic, or was she only the transport driver. (like in certain today's armies, they get to be like the boys train like the boys, but technically not allowed to fight alongside the boys.)

Or is she wearing Pink just to really hit home that she's a girl, which i feel is a dissapointing reason, i mean the armour is form fitting!!! You'd have to be blind or alien not to see she's female.

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AntiChri5

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Girls should wear pink.

And bake.

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Spitfire80

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granted, lots of them do. But if that the reason Bioware made her default armour pink, they dissapoint me. ;)

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A shipment of experimental flamingo armor was produced and sent to Eden Prime via Admiral Hackett's orders because he wanted to laugh at a whole unit wearing something so stupid. Sadly the geth attacked prior to Admiral Hackett's planetary defense overview.

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The original Alliance colors from the concept art seem to be pink (or light red) and white.  Ashley appears to be the only one that kept them, although I suspect that the pink is probably because she's female.

However, considering she's a well-rounded character that just so happens to also be female and wear pink, I'm fine with it.  ^_^

Also, as to her role, she's apparently the senior NCO of her unit.

Modifié par FireEye, 12 octobre 2010 - 09:24 .


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ReconTeam wrote...

A shipment of experimental flamingo armor was produced and sent to Eden Prime via Admiral Hackett's orders because he wanted to laugh at a whole unit wearing something so stupid. Sadly the geth attacked prior to Admiral Hackett's planetary defense overview.


I lol'd!

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@fireEye, its not a gamebreaker, it just struck me as odd. And made me curious.

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Could someone give me a movie link to this ''pink'' armor? every time i see ashley she is wearing a the red/white armor, I'v never seen her in pink armor...

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Spitfire80 wrote...

@fireEye, its not a gamebreaker, it just struck me as odd. And made me curious.


Heh.  No worries.  I kinda went ":huh:" at it in the beginning, myself.  Then I got used to it.  ^_^

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Spitfire80 wrote...
 Now presuming she is off insufficient rank to be allowed to paint her armour the way she wants too. That struck me as being rather odd.

Has there been any official word on this, was she the designated medic, or was she only the transport driver. (like in certain today's armies, they get to be like the boys train like the boys, but technically not allowed to fight alongside the boys.)
 


Ash is a Gunnery Chief, which is a rough equivalent the rank of Staff Sergeant in the U.S. Army/Marines.

Basically, she's a unit leader.

As for why her Armor's pink.... I honestly have no idea.

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Posted Image



Shep used to wear white & pink. Then he went all mainstream with black & red.

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Malcolm Theory wrote...
Ash is a Gunnery Chief, which is a rough equivalent the rank of Staff Sergeant in the U.S. Army/Marines.

Basically, she's a unit leader.

As for why her Armor's pink.... I honestly have no idea.


From what Ashley said it sounds like she was part of something along the lines of a colonial defense force or reserve unit , compared to Shepard who is/was an active marine. You would figure they would use army ranks at least. Does everybody use the naval ranking scheme?

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ReconTeam wrote...

From what Ashley said it sounds like she was part of something along the lines of a colonial defense force or reserve unit , compared to Shepard who is/was an active marine. You would figure they would use army ranks at least. Does everybody use the naval ranking scheme?


Apparently.

It seems like a universally accepted human military ranking system would make things more complicated. I honestly can't imagine any substantial benifets coming from the concept.

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I guess they just wanted an excuse for Commander Shepard as opposed to Major Shepard or Lt. Colonel Shepard.

I actually like the sound of Lt. Colonel Shepard though.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 12 octobre 2010 - 09:57 .


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ReconTeam wrote...
From what Ashley said it sounds like she was part of something along the lines of a colonial defense force or reserve unit , compared to Shepard who is/was an active marine. You would figure they would use army ranks at least. Does everybody use the naval ranking scheme?

A common "trope" in sci-fi is for space-based military forces to be a navy rather than, say, the army. It's the Alliance Navy, I believe, and that's why they use the same ranking scheme as allied navy forces.

I would expect that a ground-based attack force (Whom we don't seem to meet in Mass Effect) would be more akin to our Army.

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I thought according to the codex (... or somewhere), there were Army/Air Force divisions in the colony garrisons, while the Navy/Marines were out in space.

But Ashley's obviously in a garrison and a Marine both, so... *shrug?*

Maybe there are simply small Navy/Marines support posts out in the colony garrisons as well.  :huh:

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

Ash is a Gunnery Chief, which is a rough equivalent the rank of Staff Sergeant in the U.S. Army/Marines.

Basically, she's a unit leader.

As for why her Armor's pink.... I honestly have no idea.


That's not an accurate rank comparison.

You can't use the words "Chief" or "Gunnery" to make the comparison, since the militaries aren't a 1:1 translation.  Even if you did use those key words, a Gunnery Sgt in the US Marines or a Chief Petty Officer in the US Navy is equivalent to a Sgt First class in the US army, one grade up.

Either way, since it's not a 1:1 translation, that doesn't apply.  From info I can find, there are 6 enlisted ranks in the Alliance Navy, and she's the 5th of 6, putting her rather high.  http://masseffect.wi...ystems_Alliance
Given that she's 5/6 of the way up the ladder, that would put her closer to a Master Sgt in the US Army or Marines and a Senior CPO in the US Navy, making her a senior company-level NCO and probably one of the most senior NCO's you'd find in the field. 

With that kind of seniority, it's conceivable she could personalize her armor...but pink?  C'mon.  She's kinda girly (as evidenced by her emails), but not THAT girly.

Modifié par BubbaJones, 12 octobre 2010 - 10:43 .


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Yeah pink is a bit much. I think it would make more sense if she wore an apron and high heels.  and carried a mop and feather duster instead of a gun and grenades. All girls are housewives.Posted Image

Modifié par Fortlowe, 12 octobre 2010 - 11:07 .


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Actually I think the reason why her armor was pink is because of the type of armor. Her armor is the phoenix type armor. Which all phoenix type armor even Krogan and Commander Shepards type are white and pink. At least that's what I think.

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BubbaJones wrote...
That's not an accurate rank comparison.

You can't use the words "Chief" or "Gunnery" to make the comparison, since the militaries aren't a 1:1 translation.  Even if you did use those key words, a Gunnery Sgt in the US Marines or a Chief Petty Officer in the US Navy is equivalent to a Sgt First class in the US army, one grade up.

Either way, since it's not a 1:1 translation, that doesn't apply.  From info I can find, there are 6 enlisted ranks in the Alliance Navy, and she's the 5th of 6, putting her rather high.  http://masseffect.wi...ystems_Alliance
Given that she's 5/6 of the way up the ladder, that would put her closer to a Master Sgt in the US Army or Marines and a Senior CPO in the US Navy, making her a senior company-level NCO and probably one of the most senior NCO's you'd find in the field. 


Nice find!

I didn't bother looking for an Alliance ranking system (and I never read that specific codex entry), so I just made a crude estimate based on the knowledged I had.

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I always figured the 'squad medic' argument, but in reality it's so that she stands out and can be spotted easily by the player.



Perhaps in-game it's also so that she can be seen easily by her own troops, who would look to her for leadership?

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You're missing the point... clearly she's Canadian <ducks, begs forgiveness to our Canadian masters>

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Saedius Asicus wrote...

You're missing the point... clearly she's Canadian

Is that a funny? We have red on our flag. Red and blue in politics. The red, white and blue of the British flag in many provincial flags and our coat of arms.

Did you forget to include humour in your "joke"?

I'm all for Canadian ribbing. Self-deprecation is one of the things
we do best. Should be funny, though. Or at least really clever.

Modifié par SirVincealot, 13 octobre 2010 - 08:34 .


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The gunnery chiefs you find on the Citadel wear identical armor. Official Uniform?

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erased for double post

Modifié par SirVincealot, 13 octobre 2010 - 08:34 .