ME seems to be a highly unstable program. I'm enjoying it but I have had four hard freezes today, a couple of CTD's, a black screen... The few times that I have had any hint of what is happening, it says that the nv4 driver has stopped working. The question is: Can this game mess up my system? I have a friend who says that ME fried his Xbox.
Dell 9150, XP SP3, 3 GB memory, Nvidia 9800 GT with latest drivers, dual core pentium 2.8 GHz. I have my settings in high but performance is good. Until it starts getting cranky just before freezes or crashes, that is.
Is ME1 dangerous for your computer's health?
Débuté par
Caralampio
, oct. 12 2010 11:25
#1
Posté 12 octobre 2010 - 11:25
#2
Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 01:08
Eh... perhaps. I certainly might be a bit worried about those symptoms. Ideally you just have a set of drivers that aren't playing nice, but I'd be worried that you're actually overheating your system.
ME1 is dangerous for Xboxes for the same reason any demanding Xbox game is dangerous for a 360: the 360 was rushed through design and it had many flaws, or at least potential for problems. (The entrapment of the GPU right below the disk drive, where it got poor ventilation, probably being the most infamous.) That's not to say ME1 is a masterpiece of bug-free programming; I'm sure even on the new XBoxes that will prevent themselves from overheating, you may encounter some good old freeze bugs and such. But the simple fact is, software is not going to damage a machine unless the machine allows itself to be pushed beyond safe operating wattages & temperatures. Unfortunately, this is true of pre-redesign XBoxes, which continue humming along at temperatures that could mess up its own internals.
The same holds true of your computer. It's one thing for the CPU to be clocked at 2.8 Ghz and the graphics card to clocked at whatever its stock speed is; but if your computer is not actually capable of operating with CPU & graphics card at full bore due to lack of ventilation, then it's certainly important to note that ME1 is a piece of software that may well push them to full capacity.
If you want to try and figure out whether this is indeed a problem, find a program to monitor your temperatures (like SpeedFan) and run ME1 in a window so you can watch temperatures as you play.
ME1 is dangerous for Xboxes for the same reason any demanding Xbox game is dangerous for a 360: the 360 was rushed through design and it had many flaws, or at least potential for problems. (The entrapment of the GPU right below the disk drive, where it got poor ventilation, probably being the most infamous.) That's not to say ME1 is a masterpiece of bug-free programming; I'm sure even on the new XBoxes that will prevent themselves from overheating, you may encounter some good old freeze bugs and such. But the simple fact is, software is not going to damage a machine unless the machine allows itself to be pushed beyond safe operating wattages & temperatures. Unfortunately, this is true of pre-redesign XBoxes, which continue humming along at temperatures that could mess up its own internals.
The same holds true of your computer. It's one thing for the CPU to be clocked at 2.8 Ghz and the graphics card to clocked at whatever its stock speed is; but if your computer is not actually capable of operating with CPU & graphics card at full bore due to lack of ventilation, then it's certainly important to note that ME1 is a piece of software that may well push them to full capacity.
If you want to try and figure out whether this is indeed a problem, find a program to monitor your temperatures (like SpeedFan) and run ME1 in a window so you can watch temperatures as you play.
#3
Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 01:18
Not really, no. I mean, hard shutdowns aren't good for any piece of hardware, but the company who ported Mass Effect from the Xbox to the PC did an extraordinarily awful job, including not testing it on a wide array of system configurations relevant to the time. Thus, you will get GPZlib errors and Runtime errors out the yingyang. So no, it won't hurt your computer (much) but it will crash every now and then due to being poorly coded.
#4
Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 02:29
I don't think it's overheating, unless ME1 has some peculiar problem in itself. I can play DAO and other high graphics games and don't get these problems (aside from an occasional CTD in DAO but that seems to be common for many people). I'll monitor it anyway.
Edit: Confirmed. I just got another crash, 10 seconds into the game. I had HW Monitor in the background and the temp, as expected, was fine. A message about nv4.dll stopping working (requiring a reboot). I've been playing other games in the evening, including DAO and Empire TW with no problems at all. It's just ME.
I'm halfway into the game and finally got the hang of it, I really would like to finish it but it's driving me crazy.
Edit: Confirmed. I just got another crash, 10 seconds into the game. I had HW Monitor in the background and the temp, as expected, was fine. A message about nv4.dll stopping working (requiring a reboot). I've been playing other games in the evening, including DAO and Empire TW with no problems at all. It's just ME.
I'm halfway into the game and finally got the hang of it, I really would like to finish it but it's driving me crazy.
Modifié par Caralampio, 13 octobre 2010 - 02:43 .
#5
Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 02:59
Therion942 wrote...
Thus, you will get GPZlib errors and Runtime errors out the yingyang. So no, it won't hurt your computer (much) but it will crash every now and then due to being poorly coded.
While I won't say that ME1 is bug or crash free, I certainly never had many problems with it. Maybe four CTD's total over the past two years, but that was all I got out of it.
But it seems the more I play it the more unstable it gets. Last time I played thru it parts of dialog that worked before started not playing or cutting out mid-sentance and the Clipping got worse (like on that planet where you help the Alliance servey team fight off the Rachni waves).
It has been said before but a lot of the time you an attribute crashes to either poor coding, errant bugs that were never found, or hardware issues. BSOD's are almost always hardware related though.
Modifié par Geowil, 13 octobre 2010 - 03:00 .
#6
Posté 21 octobre 2010 - 08:54
A little late to the party here, but something to try might be rolling back your graphics drivers and see if that makes ME more stable - this game has a reputation for not always playing nice with graphics drivers. Unfortunately I can't recommend a driver version for the 9800 GT, but if you've got some time to spend on research the old help forum (at forums.bioware.com) might yield some information.
Good luck!
Good luck!





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