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[Jibbed34]

 [SPOILERS]

Due to the choices i've made over the last two games (as well as in DLC), I've got...

- The Alliance
- The Council (and hopefully the fleets of all affiliated races)
- The 'true' Geth (Legion has assured me that we pursue 'mutual goals')
- Clan Urdnot 
- The new generation of Rachni
- Liara T'soni and all of her newly acquired resources (as the SB)
- All possible squadmates in ME2 (all loyal/survived)
- The Normandy SR2, a full crew and of course, EDI

*Possible bonus allies*
- The Quarians and their Flotilla (Tali's influence seems to stretch pretty far)

To be honest, looking at that list, I'm feeling pretty optimistic about my chances You could say I've betrayed the Illusive Man and Cerberus by destroying the Collector Base, but whatever... who needs 'em eh? 

Modifié par Jibbed34, 13 octobre 2010 - 10:52 .

[prizm123]

everyone..... EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have amassed an armada so large, that the very walls of heaven would shake at their fury!!!!!!!!

[pacer90]

- New Krogan since I'm curing genophage

- Massive amount of geth after I assimilated them into Legion's geth

- Quarians and their new tech. Told them not to go to war and gave admiral the data after the trial.

- Rachni

- SHIALA

- Full Crew of SR2

- Liara. (Faithful romance ftw... at least on one file.)

- Kaiden



Not Cerberus... they don't like me much...

[vkt62]

 Now think about what Sovereign did to the fleet at the citadel and imagine going against more than a 1000 of them with your fleet and allies fleet. 
I would say without what ever we will use to blow them up in ME3, your chances and my chances (Have the same allies as you do) would be about 15%?

[Zan51]

Pacer90,

No one is curing the genophage. A cure is a long way off, even with Mordin's apprentice's awful work. All you could do was keep that research, not use it. And Mordin isn't going to make a cure because he enhanced the genophage to start with.

Besides, no one wants the genophage cured and the warlike, aggressive, mercenary Krogan breeding like rabbits all over the galaxy. That was why it was invented in the first place, to cut the birth rate down and make it easier for everyone else to live peacefully with them!

[enayasoul]

Jibbed34 wrote...

 [SPOILERS]

Due to the choices i've made over the last two games (as well as in DLC), I've got...

- The Alliance
- The Council (and hopefully the fleets of all affiliated races)
- The 'true' Geth (Legion has assured me that we pursue 'mutual goals')
- Clan Urdnot 
- The new generation of Rachni
- Liara T'soni and all of her newly acquired resources (as the SB)
- All possible squadmates in ME2 (all loyal/survived)
- The Normandy SR2, a full crew and of course, EDI

*Possible bonus allies*
- The Quarians and their Flotilla (Tali's influence seems to stretch pretty far)

To be honest, looking at that list, I'm feeling pretty optimistic about my chances You could say I've betrayed the Illusive Man and Cerberus by destroying the Collector Base, but whatever... who needs 'em eh? 

I have all those except rachi for male shep/renegade but I am working on Liara playthrough and will save them this time around.  Femshep has all them listed...trying for all paragon playthrough with her.

Modifié par enayasoul, 14 octobre 2010 - 12:39 .

[Exile Isan]

The Shadow Broker
The Rachni
The Geth
Captain Anderson

Possibly:
The Quarians if they can put away their Geth hate for just two seconds and listen to reason.

The Alliance: if they can get their heads out of the butts. Actually, I think they know about the Reapers. The information that was on Kehji's graybox looked like it was about the Reapers and if they stole that from the Alliance...  But true why they are keeping this information from Shepard I have no idea. I also think the Admiral Hackett believes Shepard as he seems awfully willing to just let her be. Oh, well as least I have Anderson on my side.

The Council: same as with the Alliance. I have to wonder if the Council does really know about the Reapers and just doesn't want to tell Shep in ME2 because she's working with Cereberus. Which seems stupid, but oh well.

Aria: As of the end of Retribution Aria knows about the Reapers and even though she doesn't care much about what happens outside of Omega (and then only if it affects her personally) she might be willing to help since galactic extinction means her too.

Kahlee Sanders: At the end of Retribution she and Anderson say they are going to help fight the Reapers that means helping Shepard.

The Illusive Man: Honestly, even if you told TIM to bite rocks at the end of ME2 I can't see he totally butting out of this war.

Modifié par Exile Isan, 14 octobre 2010 - 12:48 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

yo man, shepard can "make as if" he's dating t'soni right?

[codie928]

Well The Illusive man isnt happy with me,
The council, whilst all human probably could care less about me
The Alliance itself is basically still behind me
The krogans have been thwarted by me twice in the cure for the genophage
So really all i have is my crew haha 

[Dean_the_Young]

Shandepared wrote...

- Cerberus


...and that's it. The quarians are going to be busy taking back their homeworld (or settling a new one). The geth are busy building their dyson sphere and doing repair work on quarian planets (and possibly preparing for war against the quarians). The krogan clans are busy consolidating power and even if Wrex is alive have shown no indication of preparing for a war with the Reapers. The Alliance doesn't believe the Reapers exist, same with the Council.

Really, no matter what choices you made in the game nobody is prepared to help you except Cerberus, and if you're a paragon you've done your damnedest to stop them from even doing that.

I'd bicker about the Rachni: the Queen's messenger tells you that they'll help you against the Reapers.

The Geth are up in the air. On one hand, Legion marks opposing the Reapers as a point for common cause when you recruit him. On the other, their opposition to the Reapers has been... negligable to date, even when Sovereign and the Heretics were attacking the Citadel and revealing their existence to the galaxy would have been best.

Everyone else, though, yes, has their priorities that put the Reapers behind current reasons. It doesn't mean they won't help: I don't see the Krogan, under either ruler, staying out of the fight. But the Reapers aren't their motivation or their goal: Wrex is out to unify the Krogan for the long-term sake of the species, studying crops and genetics rather than weapons that could give a direct advantage to the Reapers. The Council as a whole hasn't done anything to deliberately prepare (though the Human-Council's galaxy has the Turians and Alliance both in an arms buildup that would pay dividends if saved for the Reapers).

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Before the war? So far just Cerberus, Rachni, Legion/Geth, and Anderson.

During the war? Probably (unless they wise up sooner to what's going on)...:

Council and her alien allies
Anderson and the Alliance
TIM and Cerberus
Wrex and Krogan
Ashley
Tali and the Migrant Fleet
Legion and the Geth
Thane (if he's not dead)
Grunt
Miranda
Jacob
Samara
Rachni
Legion and the Geth
Maybe a few batarians (saved one on the way to Mordin)
Liara (may be the shadowbroker,,. never got the DLC)
+ Any other races willing to team up with us.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 14 octobre 2010 - 01:13 .

[Mecha Tengu]

council will not help

likely to be friction with geth and quarians working together, if I were to choose one it would be the geth

Wrex + krogan

Aria + all of Omega

Rachni

Liara as shadow broker

Cerberus

Blue Suns, if Vido is dead and maybe Zaeed takes over

hackett + alliance fleet

random adventurers

[ODST 3]

All I need is Wrex.

[MrFob]

Exile Isan wrote...

Kahlee Sanders: At the end of Retribution she and Anderson say they are going to help fight the Reapers that means helping Shepard.

Just read Retribution las week (nice read btw) and I get the strong feeling that Sanders and Anderson are going to play a major (NPC) role in ME3. I certainly hope so anyway. Next to Sheps team, they are the most qualified "team" for reaper research we know of ATM.

Cerberus is certainly going to play a role as well, as will Aria.

I would be pleasantly surprised if the council has done more research than they let on in ME2 (maybe because they -understandably - didn't trust Shep s affiliations with Cerberus at the time). They got at least half the wreckage of Sovereign and control over the ruins on Illos. Even if everything is destroyed/damaged/without power, you can't tell me they couldn't find anything. At least having a small secret task force investigate is the minimum sensible thing to do.
After ME2 however, I am not sure we can trust BWs writing team not to make the council look like a bunch of mindless idiots for the rest of time, unfortunately.

[yummysoap]

Despite contrary belief I don't think ME3 is really going to be about gathering allies against the reapers precisely for the reasons Shandepard has mentioned: the only dudes who have actually come out and stated that they want to take down the Reapers are Cerberus and the Rachni (and Liara in LotSB). Everyone else is either in denial or doing their own thing. Also, yes, at the end of the day it's a third person shooter, not a flight sim, so unless 90% of the game is just silly running around doing things irrelevant to the plot and 10% is allied fleets kicking Reaper ass (which I'm sure everyone will agree would suck), I don't see it as all that likely.



That said, your allies will probably impact the invasion to some degree, but I don't think it'll be game-changing or game-central. In all honesty, sad as it is to admit it, I can see Shepard spending ME3 preparing for a seemingly hopeless fight until an old reaper-killing plot device awkardly launches itself into the game (probably something to do with "dark energy" and Haestrom, as that is foreshadowed in ME2).

[MrFob]

yummysoap wrote...
[...] so unless 90% of the game is just silly running around doing things irrelevant to the plot and 10% is allied fleets kicking Reaper ass (which I'm sure everyone will agree would suck), I don't see it as all that likely.
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If one were cynical, one could laugh about that statement in the light of the ME2 plot ... if one were cynical.

[yummysoap]

Well I know I certainly do. Even as a lover of ME2 I can openly say that it did very little to progress the overarching plot. The characters and their stories were all nice and stuff, though, and I forgive it because it's the middle child of a trilogy, but if ME3 were to continue this trend I would be terribly disappointed.

[Iakus]

Depends on who in ME 3 actually remembers there's a Reaper threat

[Therion942]

Let's see

1) Killed the council

2) Killed the Rachni queen

3) Killed Wrex

4) Killed my entire ME2 crew aside from Zaeed and Kasumi

5) Blew up the Heretics

6) Blew up the Base

7) Told the Quarians to go to war

8) Destroyed the genophage cure



C'mon BioWare, hit me with them consequences.

Bahahahahaha yeah right.

[mosor]

Cerberus for the win. And maybe Shiala or Aria as a comfort woman.

[Spectre_907]

Cerberus, the Shadow Broker, and the Rachni

All other factions are still fighting amongst themselves to be prepared against the Reapers.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 14 octobre 2010 - 07:45 .

[Spectre_907]

yummysoap wrote...

Well I know I certainly do. Even as a lover of ME2 I can openly say that it did very little to progress the overarching plot. The characters and their stories were all nice and stuff, though, and I forgive it because it's the middle child of a trilogy, but if ME3 were to continue this trend I would be terribly disappointed.

I agree. IMO, LotSB should have been the sequel and ME2 was a very long footnote.