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[flexxdk]

FrostyLazer wrote...

Rutix wrote...

Still no information about if it comes available in the Netherlands or not. Can't someone just give a yes or no? Since if it's a no then i will have to get it somewhere else but they keep saying "maybe" or "don't know yet"

Someone said that if you order it at Gamemania it will be upgraded to signature edition. I haven't tried it yet so I can't verify if thats true

That probably was me, however I meant that Gamemania is very likely to get the SE and that all pre-orders of DA2 will be upgraded to the SE provided they will get the SE.

[Hildifons]

It doesn't matter who puts the DRM in a game, I still refuse to buy it, that includes online activation. If every gamer would do that publishers will back away from using it. Pirates are still going to steal no matter how hard you try to stop them. So if DOA 2 uses online activation I'm gone. If EA can't trust me I don't need them.

[Siegfried.m]

stefan9 wrote...

Try pm chris priestley or fernando melo here at the forum. You could also try ea support but I would try Chris or Fernando first.

I tried but I have no answers. Now I try with EA support, but I have not hope for a precise answer.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Hildifons wrote...

It doesn't matter who puts the DRM in a game, I still refuse to buy it, that includes online activation. If every gamer would do that publishers will back away from using it. Pirates are still going to steal no matter how hard you try to stop them. So if DOA 2 uses online activation I'm gone. If EA can't trust me I don't need them.

Your decision.  If you view on-line activation as a game-stopper, than I guess you'll be playing fewer and fewer games in the future. The community as a whole is certainly not adopting that attitude. 

For most players in this "always connected" age , the almost unnoticed inconvenience of going through an "authorization' step as part of installing a new game, or game component, represents not an intrusion, but simply "the way it works."

[KendallX23]

i've given up on the SE..it is obvious my country dosen't get it...oh well...at least i hope that mysterious char and the soundtrack will be available after the launch of the game

[Mooner911]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Hildifons wrote...

It doesn't matter who puts the DRM in a game, I still refuse to buy it, that includes online activation. If every gamer would do that publishers will back away from using it. Pirates are still going to steal no matter how hard you try to stop them. So if DOA 2 uses online activation I'm gone. If EA can't trust me I don't need them.

Your decision.  If you view on-line activation as a game-stopper, than I guess you'll be playing fewer and fewer games in the future. The community as a whole is certainly not adopting that attitude. 
For most players in this "always connected" age , the almost unnoticed inconvenience of going through an "authorization' step as part of installing a new game, or game component, represents not an intrusion, but simply "the way it works."

I admire your principles, Hildifons. It's all too regrettable that so many people no longer notice that they've traded their principles for the status quo. Right and wrong are so easily dismissed by personal gratification. I'm glad you understand that DRM is not a support feature for "always connected", nor is it a convenience tool for "authorization", but it certainly is a legal reaquisition and control of a product that you've paid for, a legal invasion of your privacy, and a major cost inflation of a product that is paid for by you, the consumer. Well, maybe not you personally. Cudo's.

[Moonfish88]

KendallX23 wrote...

i've given up on the SE..it is obvious my country dosen't get it...oh well...at least i hope that mysterious char and the soundtrack will be available after the launch of the game

Same here... hating EA forever now and this stupid idea of "pre-order only on exclusive retailers only" CE, and they still call it a deal... well in case they forgot there are a LOT of countries outside NA/Europe... its not a deal for a lot of people who can only dream of getting it.
If they hope to make their games less available for most people on the world they´re surely on the right track. How can they argue against piracy now? Are they so naive to think people will abstain from playing games they can´t obtain legally on the first place?
I have friends who are hoping to get the pirate version of SE right on the first week and although Im against piracy, how can say "stop you cant download this game... but you can´t get a legal copy either... so just go read a book instead".

This even watered down my hype for DA2, and yeah, we all know EA, and we all now how money-grabber they are, I´m quite sure all the extras will be available for DLC from day one or later (except for the soundtrack but, if its like the DAO CE, will be just a sample not the full one wich they´ll release on iTunes eventually). Might as well just wait for an eventual Ultimate Edition or something.

I´ve learned my lesson from EA quite a long time ago, I´m just so sad that they bought Bioware. Oh well, next year the rip-offs will begin again!

[ralph2190]

Moonfish have you considered Digital Distribution? But that is considering you are playing the PC version. Direct2Drive, Impulse, GamersGate, and eventually Steam offer DA2 for sale, as long as you have an internet connection.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Mooner911 wrote...
... It's all too regrettable that so many people no longer notice that they've traded their principles for the status quo. Right and wrong are so easily dismissed by personal gratification. I'm glad you understand that DRM is not a support feature for "always connected", nor is it a convenience tool for "authorization", but it certainly is a legal reaquisition and control of a product that you've paid for, a legal invasion of your privacy, and a major cost inflation of a product that is paid for by you, the consumer. Well, maybe not you personally. Cudo's.

Think you're missing the point.  It's not a "legal reacquisition" of anything.  You have NOT "legally acquired the product" except to the extent that you abide by the Terms of Service or EULA associated with it. 

You are free to forego the product, but not to voluntarily "agree" in order to obtain the product, and THEN  to disagree when you use it.  If you don't like the terms under which it's offered, (and I can respect that one might not) the solution is simple: don't get it and don't use it.  Otherwise, the discussion degenerates to "But I want  it, so they have  to let me have it on my  terms!

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 22 novembre 2010 - 05:09 .

[mcneil_1]

KendallX23 wrote...

i've given up on the SE..it is obvious my country dosen't get it...oh well...at least i hope that mysterious char and the soundtrack will be available after the launch of the game

What general area are you from?
I know some online stores will ship to different countries.

[KendallX23]

mcneil_1 wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i've given up on the SE..it is obvious my country dosen't get it...oh well...at least i hope that mysterious char and the soundtrack will be available after the launch of the game

What general area are you from?
I know some online stores will ship to different countries.

          Eastern Europe....and a close country does get it..just not mine

[yslee]

Asia here. Sucks this is so Western-centric (again).



Also, still no word on the CE?

[KendallX23]

yslee wrote...

Asia here. Sucks this is so Western-centric (again).

Also, still no word on the CE?

           this is the CE

[Sharuko]

Bad communication, need someone to answer some basic questions here.

[FrostyLazer]

Anwer some basic questions like what?



No there is not going to me een CE.

There are a lot of country's not getting the Signature edition. You can order it from a place where it does have it if you have a credit card.



I say its not bad communication, but bad organisation. Its cool that they give a free bonus to those who pre-order, but that bonus should be there for everybody. Not just those in a select few country's (or those with credit cards)

[Hildifons]

Thandal NLyman, this is my major concern. I played ME2 and loved it. I am waiting for ME3 so to stay in the mood I have been replaying old games like KotOR 1&2. I paid a lot of money for those games and own the DISK. As long as I have a good CD or DVD for that matter I can replay the game ad-infinitum. I have LOTS of games. Now the company says I have to activate or must play online. Single player online is illogical. I am not an online junky and I don't even like multiplayer. I would also have to pay $120.00 a month to have full access to the games on my laptop and desktop. It's not worth it. Now the games that have DRM are a lease option. Say you really loved a game and want to replay it three years later. Ooops company no longer supports it, sorry only 3 reloads per purchase. Sorry our servers crashed and we can no longer service your account. etc, etc. You talk about the companies protection now where is mine? How many companies put out junk games at full price with great advertising that aren't even worth playing? Where's my protection? I own quite a few of those also. For me I love Bioware and own to my knowledge every game they ever made and released in America. But this is to much. Same with Bethesda, I own every RPG they ever made except the newest Fallout. Why? It's Steam. For years I have given both companies my loyalty. However I don't care how good their games are I refuse to waste my money on a lease option. If ME3 is lease option then I still own ME2.

[Kasmar45hot]

If you have an existing preorder for Dragon Age II, EA is saying the only way to get Dragon Age 2 is to cancel your existing preorder and re order the game.  The original preorder cost $49.95.  The preorder at the Eastore now costs $59.95.  This seems to me to be an underhanded way to raise the price of your preorder after the fact. 

[Shadelon]

Kasmar45hot wrote...

If you have an existing preorder for Dragon Age II, EA is saying the only way to get Dragon Age 2 is to cancel your existing preorder and re order the game.  The original preorder cost $49.95.  The preorder at the Eastore now costs $59.95.  This seems to me to be an underhanded way to raise the price of your preorder after the fact. 

I wonder, have you read the FAQ THOROUGHLY? Because it states plainly that if you have an existing preorder, your existing preorder should be automatically upgraded to SE. You don't have to cancel it and re-do it. 

[Thandal N'Lyman]

I'm just piling on to emphasize that Kasmar's post is incorrect.
 
NO "cancel/re-order" needed. ALL existing pre-orders will be AUTOMATICALLY upgraded to the SE.
Which, (for those who don't already know) IS  the "CE".

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 23 novembre 2010 - 05:15 .

[Thicos]

Will have Ultimate Edition of Dragon Age 2 like DAO with all dlcs and expansions?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Thicos wrote...

Will have Ultimate Edition of Dragon Age 2 like DAO with all dlcs and expansions?

Impossible to say with certainty.  Ask again in a year. 

Even if those poeple (at BioWare and EA) who will eventually decide this issue currently lean toward "Yes", or  "No", the answer will ultimately depend on too many things which are not under their control.
 And obviously, "Overall Sales Figures" will be the most important of those factors... 

[Moonfish88]

ralph2190 wrote...

Moonfish have you considered Digital Distribution? But that is considering you are playing the PC version. Direct2Drive, Impulse, GamersGate, and eventually Steam offer DA2 for sale, as long as you have an internet connection.

I play on console, so yeah that doesnt do any good for me. =(

About importing, I do have a credit card, but as I stated some posts ago, the stores that are selling it charge a ridiculously abusive $59 dollars for shipping and handling to most countries, wich is the price for the game itself. Its totally not worth it, specially if they release the extras as DLC (wich they probably will).

I really wish they would reconsider and release a REAL "CE" and not a "You´re Lucky To Live In The Right Country Edition", maybe we could organize a petition or something? I dont think it´ll do any good though.
But this was such a selfish move, they didn´t think about their worldwide fanbase for a second, only about profitable deals with the selected stores.

I only wish this was the last time they did such a shameful thing. I they do this with ME3 I´ll be boycotting Bioware for good.

[FrostyLazer]

Moonfish88 wrote...

I only wish this was the last time they did such a shameful thing. I they do this with ME3 I´ll be boycotting Bioware for good.

I wish it was the first time. Don't know if you remember there 'epic community event'. The worst part is that they said that something like that wouldn't happen again.

Don't know (or care) if its Bioware or EA's foult. They should make shure that if they do things like this they are avalible to everybody

[Thandal N'Lyman]

FrostyLazer wrote...

Moonfish88 wrote...

I only wish this was the last time they did such a shameful thing. I they do this with ME3 I´ll be boycotting Bioware for good.

I wish it was the first time. Don't know if you remember there 'epic community event'. The worst part is that they said that something like that wouldn't happen again.

Don't know (or care) if its Bioware or EA's foult. They should make shure that if they do things like this they are avalible to everybody

As FrostyL, and others, have pointed out before, this seems to be an issue for a very few, specific countries. 

Given the global nature of the gaming market, and EA's success doing business across so many national boundaries, if I were living in one of those specific countries I might be asking what it is about the laws and regulations where I live that make things so different (and seemingly so much harder) than everywhere else.

[Moonfish88]

As FrostyL, and others, have pointed out before, this seems to be an issue for a very few, specific countries.

I´m sorry but you´re mistaken. The situation is pretty much the other way around. There a list with very few, specific countries in wich the SE is available for pre-order.
The whole Latin America, Africa (except S.Africa) and Asia were left out. Its pretty much NA, Australia and Europe only (and quite a few europeans are complaining that their countries are not included as well).

And even in NA and Europe there is a very small number of stores that will be participating, so it´s pretty obvious this is the way EA decided to do things. We know how much money is involved with this store-exclusivity thing. They want a profitable deal with big name stores, regardless of wich countries they operate in. For this release at least.
I remember I had no problems picking up the DAO CE when it came out, it was available in every gamestore around here.

Modifié par Moonfish88, 25 novembre 2010 - 05:33 .