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[TonyTheBossDanza123]

Kail Ashton wrote...

Adanu wrote...

I'm pretty sure that it will be the latter... considering they are making you pay on release for this one, they're just trying to make money.

Shale was excusable because of time constraints. This is not acceptable for me. I will not be buying this game if this is the future of your games Bioware. I pay for the game, not to be screwed over and made to pay more for what should be available from the start.

lol oh no~! corperate conspiracies to make money! no wayz!! enjoy life with the tin foil cap champ

lol you things would complain (and i imagine you do) that the sky is blue and that having to breathe is a scam, i'm astounded to no ends the complete batsh!t insanity i see on these forums

Oh look a troll! Quick everyone take a photo before I scare him away!

Now comes the "Lol I'm not trolling you're just an idiot" remark, then you try and save your ass but in the end you fail miserably.

[Sevens]

Kail Ashton wrote...
lol you things would complain (and i imagine you do) that the sky is blue and that having to breathe is a scam, i'm astounded to no ends the complete batsh!t insanity i see on these forums

Oh dear.

On the other hand, you're also still astounded by random pieces of wood and other mundane "things" (that means inanimate objects) not to mention by 2+2 equaling 4.


P.S.:

lol

Modifié par Sevens, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:50 .

[Icinix]

Sir JK wrote...

(SNIPPIES!)
...I welcome pms.

...the twelve year on inside of me burst out laughing.

Sorry.

[314es]

I will definitly be one of the gals from the Pearl.

On second thought might be the surprise pig as well.

[RubiconI7]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Is this character more like Shale (a complete character with a full set of conversations), or more like Zaeed (a shell of a character with nothing to say when you talk to him)?

Naturally, I'm hoping for someone like Shale.

I didn't think Zaeed was a shell of a character. He was static and lacked depth, but still established his image and made your dirty dozen a more diversified group.

[Sylvius the Mad]

RubiconI7 wrote...

I didn't think Zaeed was a shell of a character.

He didn't have any dialogue when you spoke to him.  It wasn't possible to learn anything about him without just trusting him to divulge it voluntarily.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

RubiconI7 wrote...

I didn't think Zaeed was a shell of a character.

He didn't have any dialogue when you spoke to him.  It wasn't possible to learn anything about him without just trusting him to divulge it voluntarily.

No... SHEPARD didn't have any dialogue when speaking to him, I don't understand what your second sentence means.

[Tiax Rules All]

"about this additional downloadable party member..."

It will be female, she will be hot, carry a big hammer and have blonde hair.



That is all.

[Doyle41]

It's a pregnant Morrigan

[AdamNW]

JohnEpler wrote...

Except this isn't what we're doing. This isn't something we've ever done, at any point. I know many people are convinced that whenever we mention any kind of DLC that's released near the on-disc product that it's stuff we just tore out of the main game to sell for an extra price, but that's not true. DLC of any sort is budgeted and worked on in a completely separate fashion from the main game. For the most part, we need to be completely locked down content-wise a good two or three months in advance. More is preferable, of course, but there's a minimum of at least a month and a half.

Anything and everything that's worked on as PRC is both budgeted and worked on completely separately from the main game. Sometimes, the timelines intersect a bit - writers tend to be done with the game a little sooner than anyone else, so they've got some downtime to write dialogue and such. But we've never gone in and stripped something from the main game just so we could sell it after the fact. As it is, most of our projects end up in a lot of 14 hour days and long weekends at the office just so we can finish what you're actually getting on the disc. Nevermind extra content for us to cut so we can later repackage it and resell it. That just doesn't happen.

Of course, I work for the company, so I'm certain some people wouldn't believe me if I told them rain is wet. That's their prerogative! For the rest, though, I figured I'd chime in and dispel some of the fears.

Out of curiosity, if you DID end up having to cut content from the game prior to its release, would you resell it as premium DLC?

[Riona45]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

He didn't have any dialogue when you spoke to him.  It wasn't possible to learn anything about him without just trusting him to divulge it voluntarily.

Isn't that true of any character, when you get down to it?

[Sable Phoenix]

This is pretty offensive, really. With Shale, you could download her as long as you made a retail purchase and had a valid authorization code. The extra charge for her was for people who people who somehow had a code that was no longer unique or registered. Her status had nothing to do with preordering.

This is a completely different kettle of fish. They know the changes they've made to the game since the first one have not been well received by some of the players. They know that a lot of those players will want to wait until after it comes out, see the game reviews, maybe watch some gameplay videos on YouTube, so that they can make an informed decision whether or not they want to purchase it. This is like kicking those people when they're down, should they decide to purchase the game later on, by forcing them to pay extra to experience the full content. "What, you won't slavishly and blindly purchase everything we make before release? You will be punished for your independent thinking!"

Thanks a lot, guys. Really appreciate that.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 18 octobre 2010 - 06:26 .

[Sir JK]

AdamNW wrote...
Out of curiosity, if you DID end up having to cut content from the game prior to its release, would you resell it as premium DLC?

That was what happened to Shale wasn't it? Shale was cut because they did not have time or the money to make Shale work properly, then the DLC team salvaged the work and finished her. Since they do have separate budgets and timetables they can do stuff like that, even if the main team cannot. Thus making sure that we get that content after all.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Riona45 wrote...

Isn't that true of any character, when you get down to it?

No.  If you can converse with him then you can trap him.

Conversation is adversarial.

[upsettingshorts]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Conversation is adversarial.

No it isn't.

[AlanC9]

filaminstrel wrote...

Hm, I do wonder about the business wisdom of releasing a DLC like this though. So all of the people who don't preorder, or who preorder after January 11, and then get the game within the first week or so, will start up the game for the first time and immediately see an available DLC for extra charge? Essentially, "Thanks for buying, now buy this too!" I'm not sure if that will sit well.

Maybe if the DLC were released a month or two later, instead...

Though, granted, I'm talking out of my *** a bit. I don't know how consumers will actually react.

edit: it's the immediacy of it that makes it seem a bit questionable. If I buy a game within the first week, I don't want to find out that I haven't actually gotten everything available in the game, because that'll cost extra. That's just... that would be questionable. It would feel sleazy. I would feel ripped off a bit.

That's the thing. It's about feelings, not reality. Whether the DLC is available on day one or day 100, without the DLC charge you don't get that DLC because the DLC wouldn't exist. It was never going to not cost extra.

Personally, I prefer day 1. If I'm going to buy it anyway I might as well have it in all playthroughs. And of course, if I'm not going to buy it I don't give a damn when it's released.

But I have no idea how many folks will feel like you.

Edit: Doesn't Bio already know how people feel about this sort of thing? Shale was free, but Warden's Keep was not. IIRC, that wasn't planned as day 1 DLC, but does that matter?

Modifié par AlanC9, 18 octobre 2010 - 05:53 .

[druplesnubb]

Just one question, if they added this character to the regular game instead of having him/her as a dlc wouldn't they have to raise the price on the regular game to compensate? And if your answer is that the current price tag was with that character in mind and that they are taking out content without lowering the price my response is that every game you see on a shelf could potentially be overpriced compared to the cost of making it, I don't see how this is different.

[ChickenDownUnder]

I still say that silhouette looks a lot like Morrigan.

[Doyle41]

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

I still say that silhouette looks a lot like Morrigan.

It's a pregnant Morrigan. Check out the baby bump.

[aznsoisauce]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

"about this additional downloadable party member..."

It will be female, she will be hot, carry a big hammer and have blonde hair.



That is all.

I was going to nag about ignorance toward's Zaeed's character, but this...gives me an idea. One that I don't expect to succeed. At all.

[Tiax Rules All]

Doyle41 wrote...

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

I still say that silhouette looks a lot like Morrigan.

It's a pregnant Morrigan. Check out the baby bump.

Thats not what I saw.

I love Morrigan too but she will not be in this game.

Its a hot , big chested, ,mid-drift exposed, blond (but not dumb), with big hammer. 

I mean the picture is Irrefutable, lol

[Soggy2002]

I think the extra character will be a female Qunari

[ziloe]

Adanu wrote...

I'm pretty sure that it will be the latter... considering they are making you pay on release for this one, they're just trying to make money.

Shale was excusable because of time constraints. This is not acceptable for me. I will not be buying this game if this is the future of your games Bioware. I pay for the game, not to be screwed over and made to pay more for what should be available from the start.

What the hell are you talking about? It's the same price for both!