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[AllThatJazz]

 Witcher 1 - good story and some solid characters, set in an interesting world. Didn't really enjoy the combat much, and I felt a bit ashamed of myself for collecting all the sex cards  A very 'European' flavour to it, which I liked. Kind of came out of nowhere - 'who the hell are CDProjekt?  That's the Aurora engine?! Blimey!' Of course, this means the bar has been raised somewhat for TW2. It's looking good, though, good enough for me to pre-order.

Also Slimgrin: Love GOG too. So glad that they're doing any necessary work to get games working well with Windows 7 - no faffing around when I get around to buying Planescape:Torment. 

[Loerwyn]

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a more English post. Faffing around. Awesome.

[AllThatJazz]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a more English post. Faffing around. Awesome.

Oh my God, that's appalling! I'm Welsh! I've been living in England too long, clearly. 

[Loerwyn]

And you capitalised God. I'm gonna go lie down before I faint.

[AllThatJazz]

Accidental, I swear! I'm an Atheist!

[HoonDing]

I think the best part of the Witcher was actually one of the side-adventures, named "The Price of Neutrality". Best choice & consequence I've seen in a RPG in a very long time.

[Nerevar-as]

My favorite part is the happy ending for the uncurse the werewolf quest. When Geralt coments in the picture slide that in the world he lives, something that seems taken froma fairytale is worth fighting for. After mostly choosing between major and lesser evils, this was a welcome change.

[Thunderfox]

I don't mean to bash The Witcher, I just don't think it's as good as people say,



The story and atmosphere is good but it didn't draw me in, that is probably my biggest issue. Sure seeing the effects earlier was nice, but I didn't care about the characters, what happened to them or anything.



As for the whole darkness issue. IMo it's a bit of cultural thing. I'm surprised the Witcher managed to make it to North America, as it was. Because if BioWare had actually been more explicit with the rapes, torture by Howe, making of the Broodmother, all the other implied darkstuff, and it managed to sneak it past the ESRB even with an M rating, They have right-wing groups after then like the fist of God. The Mass Effect " Sex Controversy" would be nothing compared to it.

[Crippledcarny]

I think you might be over estimating "right-wing groups" and their power.

[HoonDing]

Right-wing groups should laud DA:O for supporting the notion of immaculate conception, i.e. sex in underwear.

[Crippledcarny]

Clothed sex is a pretty big fetish.

[Addai]

Nerevar-as wrote...

My favorite part is the happy ending for the uncurse the werewolf quest. When Geralt coments in the picture slide that in the world he lives, something that seems taken froma fairytale is worth fighting for. After mostly choosing between major and lesser evils, this was a welcome change.

I just finished that part and I agree it was nice.  The best was Geralt telling Kalkstein "you need to get out more" when discussing the last ingredient needed for the potion. I'm still LOL'ing.

It's a beautiful game, no question.  The detail and atmosphere is amazing.  Art-wise it is a much more realistic representation of a medieval town, IMO, than for example Denerim.  I'm also impressed by the combat animations though not a great fan of the combat itself.  Story-wise I'm finding that I enjoy the bits about Geralt finding out about himself.  He's a compelling character.

[Sadinar]

I could not get past the terrible combat. I gave it two hours, but could not get excited about it and uninstalled it.

[Leinadi]

I didn't find the Witcher to be a very good game but I must say it has an absolutely excellent atmosphere. The world is really wonderfully realized visually speaking (as well as audio). Vizima is the best RPG city I've seen in a 3d RPG by far.



Also, while it felt a bit 'gimmicky', I enjoyed Geralt ruminating over the consequences of his action in those little vignettes accompanied by some nice art.



But the actual gameplay itself was rather tedious at times. And while the story has some interesting things to it, the writing (or translation) kinda butchers it. The enhanced edition improved it a bit but it's still really bad.

[Loerwyn]

slimgrin wrote...
Thats said, theres no question the translation to English suffered a bit.

Often does in games not developed in English for smaller publishers. King's Bounty, Drakensang, Divinity (I think) - They suffer from some poor translation.

The Witcher is one of the best I've seen, though. Seen much worse.

[Addai]

I thought the dialogue for Geralt was good. If I cringe at any characterization, it is the women. But maybe I just can't take them seriously because they've got parts hanging out. Seriously, get a robe.

[Loerwyn]

Addai67 wrote...

I thought the dialogue for Geralt was good. If I cringe at any characterization, it is the women. But maybe I just can't take them seriously because they've got parts hanging out. Seriously, get a robe.

From what I've heard, that's how the world is. We can't hold that world to our own morals, because we rob it of what it is. Yes, it's somewhat exagerrated just how "****ty" some of the women are, but the world of The Witcher is clearly somewhat mysogonistic.

I thought whilst the sex cards were perhaps a little unnecessary (Except to extend gameplay hours), the way women were portrayed (to me) seemed really well placed. Hookers on street corners in the slums, a brothel, the clothing is very much in line with what they wore when our world was in that sort of era (That goes for both men and women, by the way).

But look at the men, too. They're generally either Fat & Wealthy (Merchants), Fat & Stupid, Thin & Greasy and so forth. The men *really* aren't portrayed as any more glamorous than women, it's just that a number of women are part of the "oldest profession in the world".

[Addai]

I'm more talking about the women who are presented as the game heroines, Shani and Triss.

[HoonDing]

On the other hand, there's the Lodge of Sorceresses. They are very powerful and control all politics behind the scenes, like the Bene Gesserit of Dune. Even Adda is shown to be much more than the bored **** she appears to be.



Not to mention, there are also a few renowned female mercenaries.

[Crippledcarny]

slimgrin wrote...

Thats what people miss about The Witcher. Some women are floozies, others are self respecting and indispensable.

But few can't be slept with.

[AllThatJazz]

Addai67 wrote...

I'm more talking about the women who are presented as the game heroines, Shani and Triss.

In the trailer I've seen for Witcher 2, Triss is more sensibly dressed this time round. Still sexy (corset, leather jerkin), but no boobs hanging out. Hurrah!