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[NamiraWilhelm]

Yup as said i cant because Mcnamara is no longer in power, you dont get that option with Hardin unfortunately

[NamiraWilhelm]

I suppose if its true we cant just carry on playing after completion then it doesnt really matter who we choose lol, not like we'll enjoy the benefits...

[Commissar Gash]

Funkcase wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Yeah but do they have to do that thing of going to new territory and deciding to put it upon themselves to play parent? 
 
spoilers!

Do i really have to kill House and the Brotherhood (which i do coz Mcnamara no longer has the power damnit)? Its a hard life in the wasteland

Spoilers



You have to kill House, but you can make a truce between NCR and the Brotherhood.

SPOILERS



He said Mcnamara no longer has the power so he is forced to wipe out BoS.
I made the same mistake and now I have to replay the entire game since I won't attack BoS....

[Commissar Gash]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

I suppose if its true we cant just carry on playing after completion then it doesnt really matter who we choose lol, not like we'll enjoy the benefits...

Don't tell me they pulled that off again....

[Commissar Gash]

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...
Yup as said i cant because Mcnamara is no longer in power, you dont get that option with Hardin unfortunately

I heard you can still do it with console commands if you have the PC version.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Apparently tis true Doh i think i read someone say because they have PC theres a mod to fix that or something? So if you're on pc you're okay

And yeah i hate that i have to do away with the BoS. Wish i kept Mcnamara on....

edit: im on the 360

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 08 novembre 2010 - 11:12 .

[AventuroLegendary]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Apparently tis true Doh i think i read someone say because they have PC theres a mod to fix that or something? So if you're on pc you're okay

And yeah i hate that i have to do away with the BoS. Wish i kept Mcnamara on....

edit: im on the 360

I suggest either you restart the game, reload a save, or pack an anti-material rifle with armor-piercing rounds. 

[NamiraWilhelm]

Lol a suggestion to restart the game. Coz its only 60 hours lol



Ive done it. But i have a slightly earlier save so i can go for house or yesman after....

[Commissar Gash]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Apparently tis true Doh i think i read someone say because they have PC theres a mod to fix that or something? So if you're on pc you're okay

And yeah i hate that i have to do away with the BoS. Wish i kept Mcnamara on....

edit: im on the 360

Why do they have to do that again? I hope there will be a DLC like Broken Steel....
Even better, it's just a simple console command

I wish I could go to Hardin and tell him about NCR's plans and then with some BoS support wipe out the NCR, while I like NCR BoS will always come first. After I heard I am screwed I left Boone at Lucky 38 and took Veronica with me, gave her and me BoS T-51b and vistied the Hoover Dam, I didn't save though.

So am I, I bought the 360 version first (will get the PC version later) because 360 gets the DLC first.

[Leinadi]

They do it because there is a huge number of variables in the ending on how things in the wasteland changes, and to implement them all in the actual game would be a huge undertaking (it's not like Broken Steel where they could just add a few small things here and there). And just dropping the player back into the wasteland with no changes would make zero sense.



I like it much better this way actually. I don't think it's a game where you should aim to do everything in one playthrough. Set up a character concept and do the quests that make sense for that character (there are enough quests and options for this to be pretty viable) and make a new and different character when you beat the game.



My first character was a weak, non-combat focused woman who was good at Speech, Barter (quite worthwhile in this game with many dialogue options using it) and Science. She ended up supporting the NCR. My current character is a grizzled, survivalist, slightly-insane cannibal dude who doesn't shy from combat. He's currently leaning towards the Legion.



New Vegas has some of the best roleplaying options in a game for a really long time now, I'm definitely gonna make use of that.

[B3taMaxxx]

Funkcase wrote...

Crippledcarny wrote...

I loaded an old save to do the Mr. House quest for the achievements, and I'm finding him to be a pretty decent guy. He is full of him self, but he's not dumb and even has some good ideas.

I find House the Neutral path, he dosent care who must die to get what he wants, but what he wants is pretty good.

 Hardly, when all he, the NCR and the Legion want to do is dominate the landscape. Wild Cards is the only path where you're not required to wipe out all the opposition. In essence there is no neutral path, someone is gonna die.

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 08 novembre 2010 - 11:48 .

[AventuroLegendary]

Does anyone know where there is a lot of non-faction power armor? I got Boone in T-51b, I'm in Remnants' power armor and I'm waiting for Arcade's quest to come up so I can get another.

[B3taMaxxx]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Does anyone know where there is a lot of non-faction power armor? I got Boone in T-51b, I'm in Remnants' power armor and I'm waiting for Arcade's quest to come up so I can get another.

 Why not just switch out their armor when using one or the other?  Have you stolen the T-51 non-faction armor from the BoS merchant? You can steel it through the wall with no consequences. It's to the left of her. I think there is a suit in Hoover Damn, but not sure where. Besides, who needs Power Armor when you can get Chinese Stealth Armor?

 Also check  the Fallout Wiki. If it's in the game, they've written an article about it.

[AventuroLegendary]

B3taMaxxx wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Does anyone know where there is a lot of non-faction power armor? I got Boone in T-51b, I'm in Remnants' power armor and I'm waiting for Arcade's quest to come up so I can get another.

 Why not just switch out their armor when using one or the other?  Have you stolen the T-51 non-faction armor from the BoS merchant? You can steel it through the wall with no consequences. It's to the left of her. I think there is a suit in Hoover Damn, but not sure where. Besides, who needs Power Armor when you can get Chinese Stealth Armor?

 Also check  the Fallout Wiki. If it's in the game, they've written an article about it.

Will do. And it says "Companion is unable to wear that faction armor" whenever I try to put it on someone (Exception for Veronica with T-51b)

[B3taMaxxx]

Yea, like I said, the armor to the left of the merchant in the BoS is unaffiliated. I believe the armor in the Hoover Damn is pre-war power armor but I am unsure about faction limits. Chinese Stealth armor is also located in the Hoover Damn, which carries a respectable 15 DT, +5 Sneak and looks outterworldly in the post apocalyptic landscape.

 EDIT: Plus you can still equip a helmet/hat and sunglasses, stacking buffs (Stealth Armor)

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 09 novembre 2010 - 12:05 .

[Addai]

*Spoilers*

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Yeah but do they have to do that thing of going to new territory and deciding to put it upon themselves to play parent? 
 
spoilers!

Do i really have to kill House and the Brotherhood (which i do coz Mcnamara no longer has the power damnit)? Its a hard life in the wasteland

*Spoilers*



You can leave Mr. House alive as a helpless vegetable.    If you really, really hate him, that is.  Boy, is he pissed at you, either way.  It's not pretty.  Any way you turn, I guess it's a raw power play.  My character is reasoning that anything would be better than the Legion so she picked the strongest enemy and now has to do what she has to do.  It's a pity you can't get House and the NCR to make an alliance.

The Brotherhood, I could care less about those jackasses after they put an explosive collar on me and sent me out to do their bidding.

Modifié par Addai67, 09 novembre 2010 - 12:12 .

[Addai]

double post begone

Modifié par Addai67, 09 novembre 2010 - 12:12 .

[Irish Groat]

i blew up the BoS bunker after finishing there quest line as far as it would go ( it was bugged you see...) stole all the power armor and gauss rifles and ran. i kinda loled when i left and realized i had no PA training or energy weapons skill...



Am i the only one who thinks a marrige option should be added in DLC lol? like Miria marrige even for lulz.

[B3taMaxxx]

Addai67 wrote...
The Brotherhood, I could care less about those jackasses after they put an explosive collar on me and sent me out to do their bidding.

 Ever try going back into one of the sealed bunkers a few days after killing or asking the Ranger to leave?  Pain ensues....

[AventuroLegendary]

Irish Groat wrote...

i blew up the BoS bunker after finishing there quest line as far as it would go ( it was bugged you see...) stole all the power armor and gauss rifles and ran. i kinda loled when i left and realized i had no PA training or energy weapons skill...

Am i the only one who thinks a marrige option should be added in DLC lol? like Miria marrige even for lulz.

If there will be any type of romance, I want it to be tasteful and meaningful. Not like the pointless marriages of Fallout 2 or even worse, Fable 2.

[Irish Groat]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Irish Groat wrote...

i blew up the BoS bunker after finishing there quest line as far as it would go ( it was bugged you see...) stole all the power armor and gauss rifles and ran. i kinda loled when i left and realized i had no PA training or energy weapons skill...

Am i the only one who thinks a marrige option should be added in DLC lol? like Miria marrige even for lulz.

If there will be any type of romance, I want it to be tasteful and meaningful. Not like the pointless marriages of Fallout 2 or even worse, Fable 2.

cant we have both? 

[AventuroLegendary]

Irish Groat wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Irish Groat wrote...

i blew up the BoS bunker after finishing there quest line as far as it would go ( it was bugged you see...) stole all the power armor and gauss rifles and ran. i kinda loled when i left and realized i had no PA training or energy weapons skill...

Am i the only one who thinks a marrige option should be added in DLC lol? like Miria marrige even for lulz.

If there will be any type of romance, I want it to be tasteful and meaningful. Not like the pointless marriages of Fallout 2 or even worse, Fable 2.

cant we have both? 

Meaning like both meaningful and pointless marriages in the game?

[Chuvvy]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Yeah but do they have to do that thing of going to new territory and deciding to put it upon themselves to play parent? 
 
spoilers!

Do i really have to kill House and the Brotherhood (which i do coz Mcnamara no longer has the power damnit)? Its a hard life in the wasteland

Spoilers



You have to kill House, but you can make a truce between NCR and the Brotherhood.

SPOILERS



He said Mcnamara no longer has the power so he is forced to wipe out BoS.
I made the same mistake and now I have to replay the entire game since I won't attack BoS....

Why not? The BoS are a bunch of inbred asses that kill anyone with anything more advanced than an energy cell. The only decent group is in DC. And they're still sort of pretentious.

[HoonDing]

I couldn't destroy the Brotherhood since I had done Veronica's sidequest (and made her stay) and eventually even joined them. I used the peaceful resolution.

Only faction I hate is the Legion. Were they supposed to be morally grey? They're nothing but a bunch of sexist slavers that cosplay as Romans for some incomprehensible reason (Hegelian dialectics, of all things). Caesar also has the charisma of a cauliflower, it's hard to believe how he ever managed to unite so many tribes (and keep them together).

Modifié par virumor, 09 novembre 2010 - 12:34 .

[Leinadi]

I think the Legion would've worked really well if they had just toned down parts of it. Like how most of their voiceactors are just dripping "evil" for example. I also don't think the women = slaves echoes the roman empire particularly well (women didn't have the same right as men but not to the point where CL takes it).



There are good points made about them across the game, most noticably how the lands they control are much safer. Raul also don't feel they're too bad. But it just gets buried in the evil imagery unfortunately.



It's perhaps the biggest missed opportunity in the game for me. The idea of it is really interesting and they really could've been made into more of a grey faction. Brutal and violent, yes, but perhaps still worth it for the wasteland? But they took it too far into the "ooh these guys are SCARY" realm.