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[Leinadi]

Courier - "You sell plants, too?"

Dr. Usanagi - "Uh, no. Implants, not plants. They're little machines I can put inside your body to make you faster, stronger, or smarter. I recommend the smarter implant."

Haha, there are some great lines in this game.

[AventuroLegendary]

Master Shiori wrote...

Did anyone manage to get that NCR ranger armor you see on cover of Fallout: NV?

I'm level 12 and did a fair bit of travelling around the map, but have yet to see a single NCR ranger wearing that armor.

HOW TO GET THE RANGER COMBAT ARMOR
Yes, and  you have to complete Ambassador Crocker's quests I believe.
an easy way to get it is to go to camp golf and try the "Silenced Sniper method". Wait until they sleep, stay hidden and shoot their head. You won't lose any karma or rep and Rangers respawn. You can also do the C4 method, where you reverse-pickpocket C4 into a ranger, detonate it but while your HIDDEN. You can also get Ranger Sequoias this way. If you don't like killing, 


*Spoiler* 



In "You'll know when it happens", foil the bomb attempt, wait until a ranger gets sniped and take his armor.

[Chuvvy]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Did anyone manage to get that NCR ranger armor you see on cover of Fallout: NV?

I'm level 12 and did a fair bit of travelling around the map, but have yet to see a single NCR ranger wearing that armor.

HOW TO GET THE RANGER COMBAT ARMOR
Yes, and  you have to complete Ambassador Crocker's quests I believe.
an easy way to get it is to go to camp golf and try the "Silenced Sniper method". Wait until they sleep, stay hidden and shoot their head. You won't lose any karma or rep and Rangers respawn. You can also do the C4 method, where you reverse-pickpocket C4 into a ranger, detonate it but while your HIDDEN. You can also get Ranger Sequoias this way. If you don't like killing,

Addendum

You can also get it by reverse pickpocketing a frag or plasma grenade on to one of the rangers at Outpost Delta. And then right after it explodes fast traveling to another location. You won't lose any rep and I don't think you lose karma. You'll need to have gone to the Fort first though because the Ranger Veterans don't spawn unless you've gotten to a certain point in game.

[thegreateski]

Doing Ranger Andy's quest (Novac) after a certain point and level in the game will let you loot some Black Ranger armor during it.

That's how I got it anyway. I prefer to use the Chinese stealth suit though.

Modifié par thegreateski, 14 novembre 2010 - 11:06 .

[AventuroLegendary]

thegreateski wrote...

Doing Ranger Andy's quest (Novac) after a certain point and level in the game will let you loot some Black Ranger armor during it.

That's how I got it anyway. I prefer to use the Chinese stealth suit though.

I did the quest and got the ranger takedown. It's EXTREMELY helpful especially when you get attacked in a casino. The chinese stealth armor is useless in FNV IMO. Only 5+ stealth. They nerfed a lot of items.

[Crippledcarny]

It was a pretty over powered in FO3, but it's pretty pointless in FNV.

[thegreateski]

Meh. Nothing ever gets close enough for me to use the armor so it doesn't really matter.



*Hugs his Anti-material rifle*

[thegreateski]

Lots of fun opportunities in this game.



Got a quest from some brat in the Legion camp to get her doll back from the Hound-master. Fought 2 viscous animals for it with a machete and then took it back to the girl and ripped it in half right in front of her.



Good times.

[Master Shiori]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Did anyone manage to get that NCR ranger armor you see on cover of Fallout: NV?

I'm level 12 and did a fair bit of travelling around the map, but have yet to see a single NCR ranger wearing that armor.

HOW TO GET THE RANGER COMBAT ARMOR
Yes, and  you have to complete Ambassador Crocker's quests I believe.
an easy way to get it is to go to camp golf and try the "Silenced Sniper method". Wait until they sleep, stay hidden and shoot their head. You won't lose any karma or rep and Rangers respawn. You can also do the C4 method, where you reverse-pickpocket C4 into a ranger, detonate it but while your HIDDEN. You can also get Ranger Sequoias this way. If you don't like killing, 


*Spoiler* 



In "You'll know when it happens", foil the bomb attempt, wait until a ranger gets sniped and take his armor.

Thank you for the info.

I think I'll try my hand at snipping, but also grab a set after the attempt on the president's life.

[Master Shiori]

Slidell505 wrote...

 You'll need to have gone to the Fort first though because the Ranger Veterans don't spawn unless you've gotten to a certain point in game.

Ah! That explains why I haven't seen any.

NCR soldiers keep talking about the rangers joining the fight, but I've yet to see a single one in the field.

Guess I'll just continue with playing the game until the start spawning.

[jsachun]

Master Shiori wrote...

Did anyone manage to get that NCR ranger armor you see on cover of Fallout: NV?

I'm level 12 and did a fair bit of travelling around the map, but have yet to see a single NCR ranger wearing that armor.

I cheated and put number of versions of the ranger armor with no faction attched to it in the presidential suite using geck.



I am at level 28 and no veteran ranger's have appeared with this armor on in my second playthrough. I think you have to at least complete the NCR quests given at Camp Forlonhope before they appear.

I must say armor looks cool in NV but factions attached to them effecting your reputation suck. Also I can't believe Obsidian reduced the DT threshold on Power Armor down to 20s(about the same as any old medium armor) from 40 that F3 version had. Game I believe is not much harder than F3, if you take med-x and increase your damage threshold as the armor will not provide it like it did on F3.

Modifié par jsachun, 15 novembre 2010 - 10:45 .

[Leinadi]

Fallout 3 didn't have DT.

[jsachun]

Leinadi wrote...

Fallout 3 didn't have DT.

DT DR what's the difference?

[Leinadi]

Damage Threshold and Damage Resistance. Fallout 3 used DR which is a more "standardized" system.



The DR rating is a percentile which means that any damage taken from a weapon is reduced by this percentile. If you have DR 10 for example, then the overall damage taken is reduced by 10.



The DT is a set number. For example, if you have a weapon that deals 20 DMG per shot and shoot at armor with a DT of 15, then only 5 damage will "slip through". Though there is always a minimum amount of DMG that gets through (even if you have a higher DT than the DMG from a weapon).



What this means is that, if you fight an enemy with a very high DT then it's generally a much better option to bring out a weapon with a high DMG (typically more slow-firing weapons) so you can punch through the armor. Whereas if you're fighting an enemy with very low DT, then you may be better off choosing a weapon with high DPS (damage per second), such as a submachine gun which would mow the enemy down pretty quickly.



Then you have additional modifiers in the various ammo types.

[jsachun]

Leinadi wrote...

Damage Threshold and Damage Resistance. Fallout 3 used DR which is a more "standardized" system.

The DR rating is a percentile which means that any damage taken from a weapon is reduced by this percentile. If you have DR 10 for example, then the overall damage taken is reduced by 10.

The DT is a set number. For example, if you have a weapon that deals 20 DMG per shot and shoot at armor with a DT of 15, then only 5 damage will "slip through". Though there is always a minimum amount of DMG that gets through (even if you have a higher DT than the DMG from a weapon).

What this means is that, if you fight an enemy with a very high DT then it's generally a much better option to bring out a weapon with a high DMG (typically more slow-firing weapons) so you can punch through the armor. Whereas if you're fighting an enemy with very low DT, then you may be better off choosing a weapon with high DPS (damage per second), such as a submachine gun which would mow the enemy down pretty quickly.

Then you have additional modifiers in the various ammo types.

So a DT of 23 to 28 on Power Armor of NV is useless against high powered weapons compared to a DR of 40 in power armor of F3?

[Leinadi]

Absolutely not. However, the weapons are also a bit different in New Vegas, the higher tiered high DMG weapons tend to be more deadly than in F3. But a high DT armor (I think the Power Armors have some of the highest DT in the game) will always be the best protection at the cost of it being heavy and all that.

What it means is that a high-powered gun, such as the Sniper rifle (which is the most overpowered gun in the game so might be a bad example) is more effective at punching through that armor. But using an automatic weapon will be generally much less effective as the high DT will absorb nearly all of your damage (except for a small percentile which will always slip through) where as in F3, a DR of 40 will absorb 40% of DMG taken. That's still a lot of DMG going through, even if you're going up against power armor with something like a submachine gun.

So it's more a matter of the scale being different. NV split off the weapon usefulness into different areas really. It's sorta hard to explain. But say that you're facing off in a really small space with 4 BoS guys (which can happen in this game, I know), that's gonna generally be a real problem because most of the high DAM weapons are often long-distance ones, slow to fire and hard to wield in close quarters, and stuff like submachine guns is gonna take ages to whittle down the enemy's health because so much damage is absorbed by the power armor.

Sadly, a lot of these nuances are trivialized in both F3 and NV because a lot of the time, you have vast distances to deal with which means you can pick off enemies at a very long range without them even realizing where you are. And VATS is always there as a "cheat system" which allows you to wield the long range weapons well even in close combat.

EDIT: I should also note that, while I think the NV system is a big improvement over F3, I find it disappointing that there still a minimum % of DMG that always makes it through. When considering that NV is a huge game that the mainstream will buy, it was probably the correct choice when viewed from Obsidians/Bethesdas point of view (I could just imagine the floods of "OMG I DONT DO ANY DAMAGE THIS GAME SUCKS!" posts) but it feels rather tame compared to the earlier Fallouts.

Modifié par Leinadi, 15 novembre 2010 - 02:28 .

[Tyler Durden30303]

If anyone wants a Awesome Mini Gun go to Devils Throat its iradiated and filled with centaurs, but the gun does 438 DPS

[Gvaz]

I've been playing for 77 hours and I'm just about to enter the thorn and then enter new vegas proper. I've completed literally everything else.

GOTY

I'm pretty sure a gatling laser with the mod does about the same amount of damage as that minigun >:]

edit2: they only show up when you're about halfway through For The Republic or other similar endgame quests. and only if you're like, above level 18 iirc

Modifié par GvazElite, 15 novembre 2010 - 08:16 .

[AventuroLegendary]

Well weapons and armor are "nerfed" so that the player will have more variety. I got a tesla cannon from broken steel which only used one MF cell and it destroyed ANYTHING in a matter of a few hits (Except a behemoth). So it makes it a harder choice looking for a gun to waste a specific type of ammo with. As for armor, the armors that you'd completely use would be the T-51b power armor, The hellfire power armor and the chinese stealth suit. Everything else would be abandoned.



In NV, almost every armor/clothing has effects (That you oh-so need for quests). The T-51b armor was nerfed so that it would go from 50 to 20 something (Even though there is a slight difference between DT and DR) and Chinese stealth armor is useless so Stealth-boys are pretty precious.

[AventuroLegendary]

Anyone else think of Wall-E when thinking of ED-E?

[Tyler Durden30303]

i got my armor today i didnt want to walk around dressed as an NCR member though, so i just took the helmet as a trophy.

[thesuperdarkone]

Something creepy I just realized. Since the spore carriers are basically fungi possessed corpses, I found saw that some of them are called runts and are small. Children sized.............

[AventuroLegendary]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Something creepy I just realized. Since the spore carriers are basically fungi possessed corpses, I found saw that some of them are called runts and are small. Children sized.............

In Fallout 3, I found skeletons of children in Springfield elementary school so this isn't that disturbing to me. Still...

[Addai]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Anyone else think of Wall-E when thinking of ED-E?

Definitely. 

[Addai]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Something creepy I just realized. Since the spore carriers are basically fungi possessed corpses, I found saw that some of them are called runts and are small. Children sized.............

Disturbing, yes.  I also had a hard time killing the baby animals!!  Baby molerat, OMG!!  And...

*spoiler*


The mother deathclaw with her lethal little brood!  It would be one thing if you were getting attacked, but we were up in the hills sniping.  When I finally dropped mama, she spilled into the pond and then her babies just stopped where they were.  I felt so horrible picking them off one by one.