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[jsachun]

WTF??? North of NCRCF.

Modifié par jsachun, 08 janvier 2011 - 06:26 .

[vometia]

jsachun wrote...

WTF??? North of NCRF.

Looks like a large dog to me.

[NvVanity]

vometia wrote...

jsachun wrote...

WTF??? North of NCRF.

Looks like a large dog to me.

Wild Wasteland maybe?

Or just really good perception.

[vometia]

NvVanity wrote...

Wild Wasteland maybe?

I always had that perk so perhaps that's why I didn't see anything amiss; and it's actually quite useful with the mod that adds a little extra running away speed.

The time a gnome started grumbling at me was a bit strange though.

[NvVanity]

vometia wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wild Wasteland maybe?

I always had that perk so perhaps that's why I didn't see anything amiss; and it's actually quite useful with the mod that adds a little extra running away speed.

The time a gnome started grumbling at me was a bit strange though.

I do love the graffiti in Cotton Wood Cove. Nothing funnier then a Monty Python reference.

[thegreateski]

I want to play with the wild wasteland perk . . . but that would mean giving up the YCS . . . I guess I'll just have to settle for the regular ol' Gauss rifle.

also

I'd kill for a Fallout game that doesn't take place in a desert.

Modifié par thegreateski, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:29 .

[NvVanity]

Fallout 3? It's technically not a desert.



I still want a Fallout: Alaska. Operation: Anchorage gave us a look at the place. During the Resource Wars it was a big battle zone. Great place to have the next game take place.

[thegreateski]

I'm partial to Point Lookout myself. That's what I mean by "not a desert".

Could just be that I like forests.

Modifié par thegreateski, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:35 .

[NvVanity]

If you own Fallout 3 on PC you can download one of the environment mods. One of them removes the ugly green filter and the place looks a lot more natural. One adds some grass and trees similar to the Oasis area, after all logically 200 years after bombs falling nature should be back to growing normally and my personal favorite Nuclear Winter adding snow everywhere.

[thegreateski]

Damn you people and your money PCs.

*wishes he had a job*

Modifié par thegreateski, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:42 .

[ParagonVanguard]

I love Fallout: New Vegas and I'm glad that Obsidion took over with it's develoupment than Bestheda and it shows. The addition of the Survival Skill, makeshift bedding, the ability to mod wepaons and make and destory ammo and Hardcore Mode, which really brings more realisum into the game.
I also like the music better than the music in Flalour 3. It's more ambient which is think really contributes to the feel. Bringing back the Reputaion system and making it more important than Karma was a great idea.

[vometia]

ParagonVanguard wrote...

The addition of the Survival Skill, makeshift bedding, the ability to mod wepaons and make and destory ammo and Hardcore Mode, which really brings more realisum into the game.

The "hardcore" mode was most welcome; the name almost put me off but it added gameplay features I found myself having to manually add to the likes of Oblivion and Fallout 3: eating and sleeping may not be the most exciting gameplay elements, but they do add a lot to the experience.  I learnt from playing Oblivion that curtailing fast travelling and having my character not questing 24 hours a day actually made an enormous improvement.

I still think that their implementation of the survival needs falls quite short of the user-made mods I've seen, but it's better than nothing.

ParagonVanguard wrote...

I also like the music better than the music in Flalour 3. It's more ambient which is think really contributes to the feel. Bringing back the Reputaion system and making it more important than Karma was a great idea.

The reputation system is also a big improvement.  It made no sense at all that you couldn't have a good character who stole a villain's supplies and got into trouble for it, or conversely a bad character who gained karma for gunning down another bad guy simply because he got in the way.  FO3 did have a certain amount of faction-based karma but it was underused and quite badly bugged, whereas the NV system seemed to (mostly) work quite well.

[ParagonVanguard]

vometia wrote...

ParagonVanguard wrote...

The addition of the Survival Skill, makeshift bedding, the ability to mod wepaons and make and destory ammo and Hardcore Mode, which really brings more realisum into the game.

The "hardcore" mode was most welcome; the name almost put me off but it added gameplay features I found myself having to manually add to the likes of Oblivion and Fallout 3: eating and sleeping may not be the most exciting gameplay elements, but they do add a lot to the experience.  I learnt from playing Oblivion that curtailing fast travelling and having my character not questing 24 hours a day actually made an enormous improvement.

I still think that their implementation of the survival needs falls quite short of the user-made mods I've seen, but it's better than nothing.

ParagonVanguard wrote...

I also like the music better than the music in Flalour 3. It's more ambient which is think really contributes to the feel. Bringing back the Reputaion system and making it more important than Karma was a great idea.

The reputation system is also a big improvement.  It made no sense at all that you couldn't have a good character who stole a villain's supplies and got into trouble for it, or conversely a bad character who gained karma for gunning down another bad guy simply because he got in the way.  FO3 did have a certain amount of faction-based karma but it was underused and quite badly bugged, whereas the NV system seemed to (mostly) work quite well.

Yeah. I was dissapointed when I heard the term "Hardcore" at first, since i assmued it would be a form of diffculty and you would have to use that to eat, sleep ect, but I was pleased to find that it was seperate from it and that I could run it on normal.
And the Reputaion over Karma was a big improvment. I like Karma being a more internal aspect.

[Loerwyn]

ParagonVanguard wrote...
I love Fallout: New Vegas and I'm glad that Obsidion took over with it's develoupment than Bestheda and it shows.

I'm... Confused by this. Do you believe Obsidian took over the development, or do you mean that you're glad that Bethesda 'hired' (Well, there's no other word for it) Obsidian to make it? Obsidian haven't taken over anything.

ParagonVanguard wrote...I also like the music better than the music in Flalour 3. It's more ambient which is think really contributes to the feel.

It was nice to see some Mark Morgan tracks return. I took a peek into the file directory and there's tracks from all the numbered games (FO1, 2 and 3), so we have a nice mix of Inon Zur and Mark Morgan tracks. Can't say I like the actual songs, though, or at least not to the degree of the previous games. There was only one (I believe) Ink Spots track, and both (Or was it three if you include Black Mountain?) radio stations share a number of tracks. The radio stations themselves were pretty dull, and Mr Vegas didn't really put his heart and soul into being Mr New Vegas, which kinda ruined it for me.

Oh, and Heartaches By The Number continually plays for some reason. Everytime I go into a building it seems to be that single track playing. I know it's just the luck of the draw but it's still kinda annoying. 

[vometia]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, and Heartaches By The Number continually plays for some reason. Everytime I go into a building it seems to be that single track playing. I know it's just the luck of the draw but it's still kinda annoying. 

Oh no, now I have it stuck in my head again. <_< Still, at least it's not as bad as the wailingly horrid Johnny Guitar.  Overall I preferred the music in FO3 personally, which eventually grew on me in spite of it driving me nuts to start with; Mr New Vegas and his selection of three singles just didn't do it for me.

[Loerwyn]

The only song I absolutely hated from Fallout 3 was Butcher Pete. Yeah, songs about serial rapists are always fun. Still, making ghouls explode whilst listening to Ella Fitzgerald did always have a slightly hypocritical charm about it. GNR even had funny things like the adventures of whatshisface and his Ghoulish manservant, Argyle.

In NV, I've just been running around with the radio off. Mark Morgan and Inon Zur

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:44 .

[Morbo]

Black Mountain radio is the best radio-related thing in either 3 or NV. Too bad you end up shutting it down.
But besides that, the radio in NV is not particularly great though. Hell, I can't stand most of the licenced tracks really. And I never even heard the one Ink Spots song. Seemed like the "big iron on his hip" song was on a endless loop most of the time.

[LiquidGrape]

vometia wrote...

Still, at least it's not as bad as the wailingly horrid Johnny Guitar.

Aw. Personally I think the sonorous tones of Peggy Lee puts the old ultra-violence in absolutely perfect juxtaposition.

[Loerwyn]

Morbo wrote...
And I never even heard the one Ink Spots song.

It's a fairly quiet track, so I wouldn't be surprised if you missed it. It's called 'It's A Sin To Tell A Lie', I believe, and it's quite a beautiful piece.

I extracted the files from the Steam directory, but the music is so damned quiet. I bumped it up 100% in iTunes but it seems to have done nothing. Mind you, it's iTunes.

[vometia]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Aw. Personally I think the sonorous tones of Peggy Lee puts the old ultra-violence in absolutely perfect juxtaposition.

There is that.  One of the more surreal moments in FO3 was listening to Let's Go Sunning superimposed over one of Inon Zur's mournful tracks at the same time as giving some supermutants or Talon Co. types a wide berth.  A whole bunch of entertainingly conflicting emotions in one neat package.

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

The only song I absolutely hated from Fallout 3 was Butcher Pete. Yeah, songs about serial rapists are always fun. Still, making ghouls explode whilst listening to Ella Fitzgerald did always have a slightly hypocritical charm about it. GNR even had funny things like the adventures of whatshisface and his Ghoulish manservant, Argyle.

I hadn't figured out what Butcher Pete was about, and it doesn't really enhance the overall experience now that I know.  But the song that always stands out for being both annoying and catchy at the same time is Bing's brother Bob Crosby with his "the rhymes are the corniest" ditty.

And I'd forgotten all about Argyle and his manservant!  Their radio series was top stuff.

[thegreateski]

Butcher Pete is about either a serial killer, a bisexual sex maniac, or a butcher named Pete.



Great song.

[Loerwyn]

thegreateski wrote...
Butcher Pete is about either a serial killer, a bisexual sex maniac, or a butcher named Pete.
Great song.

It's about a serial rapist who turns to sodomy once he's been arrested. I believe it's clearer in the second part of the song (Which isn't in the game).

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 08 janvier 2011 - 07:05 .

[NvVanity]

Music in NV and FO3 could have been better. Definitely too much Johnny Guitar, Big Iron and Lets go Sunning. Not enough Sinatra. If you say in the trailer you have Sinatra music, you're going to need the big ones not just Blue Moon.



You know Fly Me to the Moon, My Way, New York, etc.

[Leinadi]

I only like the radio for its "flavor" whenever you happen to pass by one in the world. Stop by and listen to the news and move on.



The overall soundscape in New Vegas is so good that turning on the radio just feels like I'm ripping out the atmosphere in the game.

[Tentura]

Leinadi wrote...
I only like the radio for its "flavor" whenever you happen to pass by one in the world. Stop by and listen to the news and move on.

I agree.  Though I like some of the songs in NV, they repeat far too often.  I get tired of the radio pretty quickly.  I definitely prefer it when I just walk by a radio that happens to be on.  The ambient music is excellent - it really completes the atmosphere.

ETA: I HATED Butcher Pete!  What an annoying song.

Modifié par Tentura, 08 janvier 2011 - 09:33 .