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[KenKenpachi]

Speaking of settings and such, it would be nice if the Fallout games at some point give some idea of the state of the Rest of the US/World. Factions and the like.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

That would be neat, if I could visit England or France in the fallout world!

[Brockololly]

I seem to remember some interview with either the NV devs or maybe Fallout3 where they entertained the idea of a Fallout game outside the US, but it wouldn't really work since so much of the Fallout setting is tied to the sort of 50's era USA feel.

[adneate]

Hardcore Fallout fans nearly had an aneurysm and died at the news of the Fallout 3 not being on the West Coast I believe NMA burned Todd Howard in effigy because of it. I don't know if it would work if it was outside of 50's Bizarro America, that setting is already so strange and foreign.

Plus no America means no Energy Weapons and Power Armor and we just can't have that now can we?

[KenKenpachi]

adneate wrote...

Hardcore Fallout fans nearly had an aneurysm and died at the news of the Fallout 3 not being on the West Coast I believe NMA burned Todd Howard in effigy because of it. I don't know if it would work if it was outside of 50's Bizarro America, that setting is already so strange and foreign.

Plus no America means no Energy Weapons and Power Armor and we just can't have that now can we?

Yes you can, two area's in Fact.

Canada, which we took over, And China, where we landed large numbers of troops.

In fact China would make a neat place for a game to take place in see if the US and PLA troops sat aside political issues or if the war still wages. But I ment in other contexts by my request. Such as some rumors or military satcom information etc. 

As an edit I know the Chinese made Stealth Tech, but didn't they have some laser/plasma weapons?

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 05 mai 2011 - 07:20 .

[Leinadi]

adneate wrote...

Hardcore Fallout fans nearly had an aneurysm and died at the news of the Fallout 3 not being on the West Coast I believe NMA burned Todd Howard in effigy because of it. I don't know if it would work if it was outside of 50's Bizarro America, that setting is already so strange and foreign.

Plus no America means no Energy Weapons and Power Armor and we just can't have that now can we?

Actually, Fallout 3 being set on the East Coast was one of few pieces of news that was considered good by the hardcore Fallout fans because it would allow Beth to introduce their own factions and stuff and not mess up what had been established on the West Coast. Of course, Bethesda then re-used a lot of stuff from the older games anyways.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

J E Sawyer (Lead Designer on Van Buren & New Vegas) has mentioned repeatedly that he'd like a Fallout: Resource Wars spinoff game.

It would be set in Europe between the war of the Euro Commonwealth and the Middle East. Basically, he'd like it to be Battlefield in the Fallout setting.

That would actually be pretty fun as a multiplayer FPS game. Vehicles, salvaging, crude prototypes of Power Armor, etc etc. A D-Day map with prototypical Power Armor, Vertibirds, laser weapons... Sounds like good shooting fun. If a little Halo-ish.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 06 mai 2011 - 04:50 .

[The Narrator]

mrcrusty wrote...

J E Sawyer (Lead Designer on Van Buren & New Vegas) has mentioned repeatedly that he'd like a Fallout: Resource Wars spinoff game.

It would be set in Europe between the war of the Euro Commonwealth and the Middle East. Basically, he'd like it to be Battlefield in the Fallout setting.

this, and to everyone talking about a world wide Fallout game, its called fallout extreme, going by that, the Chinese made an empire based on the Han dynasties and alike.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

^ I like the Idea of European Fallout.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

God dammit I hate Interplay. Just reading the Fallout Extreme entry on the Vault, completely forgot about it.

Makes me think that in the long run, Bethesda picking up the franchise would do a lot less damage to it. I mean, looking at the storyline of Fallout Extreme just wants to make me gag. Forget Fallout 3 not carrying logic, Fallout 3 is about as Fallout as Fallout 1 in comparison.

Bethesda! Promise me you won't make games like Brotherhood of Steel or Extreme and all is forgiven!

Makes me glad that the project was dropped and isn't canon. It's not the type of game that makes me glad that it never came into existence, it's how they basically smack the lore beyond any form of logic. The Chicago BoS from tactics suddenly controls all the land in the U.S outside of the West Coast, all the way to Alaska?

Why would the Chinese still be hostile? They'd be in just as bad shape as the US, if not worse. The Shi seemed to be able to play fine without going total war on the West Coast, despite descending from the survivors of a Chinese Naval sub...

Modifié par mrcrusty, 06 mai 2011 - 07:57 .

[NKKKK]

Why would the Chinese still be hostile? They'd be in just as bad shape as the US, if not worse. The Shi seemed to be able to play fine without going total war on the West Coast, despite descending from the survivors of a Chinese Naval sub...

I really doubt the Shi were Altruistic. It's a good thing things apparently went bad for them and were forced to integrate with the NCR

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Well, I agree but what I'm getting at is the idiocy of a lot of things mentioned in Fallout Extreme. Why would the Chinese have already rebuilt the entire country and why would they still want to destroy America? Granted, Fallout 2, 3 and New Vegas have their share of logic holes, but the synopsis of Extreme was absolutely awful.

But a Fallout: Resource Wars game is something I'd like.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 07 mai 2011 - 04:40 .

[The Narrator]

mrcrusty wrote...

Well, I agree but what I'm getting at is the idiocy of a lot of things mentioned in Fallout Extreme. Why would the Chinese have already rebuilt the entire country and why would they still want to destroy America? Granted, Fallout 2, 3 and New Vegas have their share of logic holes, but the synopsis of Extreme was absolutely awful.

But a Fallout: Resource Wars game is something I'd like.

i think there pretty good, fallout three is ****ing awful though.

eh i never look forward to spin offs.

[Rockworm503]

Jonp382 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Then again I don't hate fallout like you seem to.

I never said I hate Fallout. Quite the opposite, I'm really enjoying Fallout 3. A very good game. I'm tempted to say it's better than Dragon Age: Origins, but I haven't finished it yet. It's only the DLCs that I've played so far that are really low quality.(Off the top of my head)

I suspect that I will enjoy New Vegas even more, since it has some of the game industry's best writers on the development team. Just hope the DLC is worth the money.(40 USD for all the DLC)

Well to give you an idea how high I hold Point Lookout.... My favorite moment in all of Fallout 3 happened in that DLC you hate.

[Rockworm503]

Sparroww wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I haven't played Point Lookout yet, but I've enjoyed all the other FO3 DLCs a lot.  I had forgotten, having put the game down for eons to play Origins, what a decent sized, quality DLC is like, then went back to Fallout recently and played Mothership Zeta for the first time.  Operation: Anchorage is my favorite and not many like it, so YM definitely MV.

FNV, story-wise, was extremely lacking IMO.  I could care less who runs Vegas.  The final battle was so underwhelming I had to force myself to play through it.  I'm not sure why people tout the writing over Fallout 3's.

About the Lamplight kids- I assumed they were orphans that the kids picked up on their scavenging trips.

O:A I actually enjoyed more than most, though the main highlight was the gear you got at the end, Mothership Zeta bored me to tears and Point Lookout did feel like a decent expansion as did Broken Steel.

As for New Vegas I enjoyed the story a lot more than 3, more because I got hyped up for NV before it came out although I personally find both games fairly equal in terms of gameplay.

I actually just played through Anchorage for the second time last night... Couldn't get through it fast enough.  If it weren't for the awesome ninja armor and rifle I wouldn't have bothered.  I like the concept of a video game inside a video game but it takes the core thing that made Fallout 3 so great IMHO (RPGing)  and just toss it out the window.  When everyone's calling you a he and your playing as a female there is no way I can enjoy it.  Hell I play it as a first person shooter as I forget VATS is there because spray and pray is all you need.

As for Zeta I liked it quite a bit.  Ironically the reason I like it is sorta the reason I can't stand Operation Anchorage.  It takes everything we know about Fallout and tosses it inside out but in a good way.  To be clear the aliens are tough and VATS is never forgotten.  A nice change of pace from the wasteland and I'm behind this.  Sure its linear as hell but IMO the good outweigh the bad.

I haven't played Broken Steel yet but Pitt was pretty good too.  One of the hardest choices to make is in this a real moral dillema.  Could do without the lame fetch side quest though.

Modifié par Rockworm503, 07 mai 2011 - 12:23 .

[Leinadi]

I think The Pitt and Point Lookout were the most promising of the F3 DLCs but I also think that Bethesda failed in making them truly memorable. The Pitt had a really excellent setting and the view when you enter is one of my favorites of these new Fallouts. But still feels like there is much filler there and the writing isn't good enough to make it satisfactory. Still, it's probably my favorite of the F3 DLCs. Point Lookout, yeah... Fun with an open world and I even think the swampy setting had potential but it's pushed too far and it's hard to take it seriouslly. And yeah, bullet-sponge hillbillies.

Many people love Broken Steel but I think it must be because of the removal of the ending. I didn't particularly care for that (I like that games end, I just didn't like *how* F3 ended) and the content is subpar. Just a lot of combat mainly, and more bullet-sponge enemies.

Given that the New Vegas DLCs will raise the level caps, I really fear that we'll see bullet sponge enemies in them too. I really hope they can avoid that somehow.

I didn't really care for the Ghost People in Dead Money lore-wise but I think they were a lot of fun to fight.

[KenKenpachi]

mrcrusty wrote...

Well, I agree but what I'm getting at is the idiocy of a lot of things mentioned in Fallout Extreme. Why would the Chinese have already rebuilt the entire country and why would they still want to destroy America? Granted, Fallout 2, 3 and New Vegas have their share of logic holes, but the synopsis of Extreme was absolutely awful.

But a Fallout: Resource Wars game is something I'd like.

Revenge.

I mean they got the **** nuked out of them.

Its like Germany getting beaten in WW1, we seen how well that went over. Because someone is beaten doesn't mean they won't hit back later. Though Someone is making a Fallout RTS mod for CNC Generals so far Enclave VS BoS. Won't be surprised to see the NCR thrown in though. As to your issue, it never states how far the Chinese rebuilt, its like the NCR is considerd very stable and "rebuilt" yet even 20th Century Nations are stronger. But FE was a bad game and screwed things up. Still would like to see a story in China. Or even a multi factional RTS thats in the Far future showing factions that survived etc.

As to Fallout 3 expansions.

Didn't much like the Pitt, damn zombie's. But I handed the kid over, I just made it clear if they did anything to her I'ld be back to slaughter them all.

Point lookout, loved it Funny it doesn't even take place in the deep south. And it had alot of funny easter eggs, loved getting into the sub as well, wish there was more to do it in, the mansion defense was great too.

Zeta, liked it a bit...never felt right with killing the Samurai and taking his armor, though I WANT that damn armor. The weapons given I didn't put many points into e/w were useless to me short of selling fodder.

Oh yeah O/A It was rather neat playing it, seeing parts of the war. Actully its too bad we don't have a game set in that time. Showing all the tech and how they used to live, and how it all went wrong.

Broken Steel overall felt more like a side mission than an expansion. looking forward to seeing what we get next for Fallout NV.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 07 mai 2011 - 02:51 .

[NKKKK]

mrcrusty wrote...

Well, I agree but what I'm getting at is the idiocy of a lot of things mentioned in Fallout Extreme. Why would the Chinese have already rebuilt the entire country and why would they still want to destroy America? Granted, Fallout 2, 3 and New Vegas have their share of logic holes, but the synopsis of Extreme was absolutely awful.

But a Fallout: Resource Wars game is something I'd like.

While awful, it did sound somewhat interesting, I do want to see the post-war chinese. 

[Addai]

Rockworm503 wrote...
I actually just played through Anchorage for the second time last night... Couldn't get through it fast enough.  If it weren't for the awesome ninja armor and rifle I wouldn't have bothered.  I like the concept of a video game inside a video game but it takes the core thing that made Fallout 3 so great IMHO (RPGing)  and just toss it out the window.  When everyone's calling you a he and your playing as a female there is no way I can enjoy it.  Hell I play it as a first person shooter as I forget VATS is there because spray and pray is all you need.

I never noticed the gender bending.  I love the setting and yeah I did kind of play it as a shooter.  I mostly play sniper characters and it gave lots of satisfying opportunities to pick off people on distant cliffs.  Plus I just like all that militaristic booyah bull****.

I haven't played Broken Steel yet but Pitt was pretty good too.  One of the hardest choices to make is in this a real moral dillema.  Could do without the lame fetch side quest though.

The Pitt was depressing but all around quite satisfying.  Gah, those trogs are creepy as hell, and the vista of wasteland Pittsburgh, awesome.  You had lots of varied challenges and an interesting dilemma.  It's probably my 2nd favorite (not having played Point Lookout yet).

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I would've liked to explore the Pitt more. It felt too small and constricting for me. The story itself was a little weird, but I really liked how they touched on the issue of manufacturing and production. It's not the best DLC imo, but it's underrated. Better than people give it credit for.

I also didn't like Broken Steel. It's one of the best F3 DLCs because it lets you continue on, but imo the main story itself didn't make much sense. The Enclave? Again? And they somehow had a huge AF base which was even more powerful and advanced than the Raven Rock base, had more powerful guys, an orbital laser weapon and somehow they just forgot to show up at the big battle at the end of F3? Wha?

IMO what would've been really cool is if they made the Talon Company into the primary antagonist. The Brotherhood could've had LP malfunction or something and with the Brotherhood weakened, the TC could've taken control over water supply, harassing caravans and merchants, etc.

IDK, maybe that would be crap, but I really wanted Bethesda to expand and flesh out the factions they made, because the TC and Commonwealth are really interesting. Rather than shoehorning the old ones without logic just so they can say "look! Enclave! It's Fallout!"

Modifié par mrcrusty, 09 mai 2011 - 04:31 .

[Addai]

Ah, Talon Company. The armor mall of the Capital Wasteland. I missed having those pimply dudes jump out of bushes at me in FNV.

[Brockololly]

New trailer for Honest Hearts, the New Vegas DLC coming out next Tuesday (17th). With plenty of The Burned Man!

Modifié par Brockololly, 11 mai 2011 - 03:11 .

[Rockworm503]

Brockololly wrote...

New trailer for Honest Hearts, the New Vegas DLC coming out next Tuesday (17th). With plenty of The Burned Man!

Ah you beat me to it.  I posted this video in the wrong thread lol.

[KenKenpachi]

Hmm given what we've seen of the Burning man it makes me wonder if any Papal States were thrown up in the aftermath of the War.

[Romantiq]

Brockololly wrote...

New trailer for Honest Hearts, the New Vegas DLC coming out next Tuesday (17th). With plenty of The Burned Man!

Sounds like an awesome voice overs again. Fallout games never dissapoint when it comes to that.