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[Rockworm503]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

WOW people waiting for the game and being Civil about it.
Stay away from Steam forums... its all a bunch of babies crying about having to wait a few hours or days for it like its a conspiracy to take their money LOL *facepalm.
I work at a store where theres babies crying all the time I don't need it when I get off too.

Anyway I am so buzzed its almost surreal.... If I'm right with the timezones It should unlock 1 AM here.
lakhsfoiaofhafajklfha;ehflkhealk;aelflkaklfase;jfkajf;ajfj; <<<<< this is me going crazy

Somehow I don't EVER want to go on the Steam forums or, even worse, the NMA forums. Little kids and fat 30+ year- old virgins (A lot, not all) will persecute you for having a different opinion. 

Yeah for the most part its not too bad.... but then a new release comes out and their true colors show.  Its pathetic how many people cant talk rationally when they have to wait maybe 3 hours later then others...
oh and god forbid if the game isn't 100% perfect for them then its like Steam and (enter game company here) cheated them and planned all of this from the start...
Call them out on it and its "I know you are but what am I."..... yeah I'm complaining about your complaining so I'm the dick here..... hard to ignore when theres 20 threads on "OMG OMG VALVE LIED TO ME!!?!?!?!?!?!?"

/rant over
I'm fixing to get in the shower and it'll probably loosen me up for me to sleep until late into the night or whenever I wake up lol.  Then tommorrow is my day off so WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ErichHartmann]

Hmmm....



Anyone here splurge on the Collector's Edition?

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

So I just got back from a gamestop midnight release with my copy of the PC version. And of course because its tied to that garbage DRM known as Steam I can't play a game  I just bought, never mind INSTALL it, til Steam tells me its ok to do so.

So not happy right now.

Modifié par CoS Sarah Jinstar, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:07 .

[Brockololly]

I don't care for DRM one way or the other, but I vastly prefer Steam as opposed to stuff like Ubisoft's PC DRM. At least with Steamworks on New Vegas, you can just install it and then if you lose the DVD, you can just download it off of Steam.



No DRM is the ideal solution, but Steam is the "best" of all DRM, I guess..

[Crippledcarny]

I much prefer EA's stance of targeting resales vs DRM. Mostly because it doesn't effect me like a DRM does. Not the point though!

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Bleh I never had a problem with secure rom or whatever it was they used to use. Though I'm sure the pirates didn't have a problem with it either, hence the change. Steam should be able to tell the difference between a digital version and a retail version and react accordingly.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

slimgrin wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

So I just got back from a gamestop midnight release with my copy of the PC version. And of course because its tied to that garbage DRM known as Steam I can't play a game  I just bought, never mind INSTALL it, til Steam tells me its ok to do so.

So not happy right now.

I hate online activation with a passion. 

I don't so much have an issue with it but seriously, who in their right mind treats a retail copy the same as a digital copy? Oh wait Steam and Valve do because they're so damn overrated in the first place.

[Crippledcarny]

Wonder how the game acts if you don't have internet connection? Another Mass Effect style shut down?

Modifié par Crippledcarny, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:30 .

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Crippledcarny wrote...

Wonder how the game acts if you don't have internet connection? Another Mass Effect style shut down?

I'd imagine you can't even install it without being connected to steam. I'm also figuring you can't play a retail store bought copy without being connect to steam. Which is all sorts of flat out stupid to begin with.

[Brockololly]

Yeah New Vegas has Steamworks, which I believe requires an initial online activation on Steam but after that you don't need to be online and you don't require the disk to play. I happen to love Steam as they often have insanely good sales for games but it is irritating to have online requirements especially for single player games.



But again, its a lot better than Ubisoft's ridiculous DRM requiring you to always be online, even to play a single player game like Assassin's Creed 2, or else they boot you off.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Honestly slimgrin, I'm of the minority that has always felt Valve was one of the most overrated devs in the industry to begin with. So I guess I'm kinda bias in my dislike of Steam because of that. But with that being said this game better be bloody brilliant considering how annoying this whole situation of steam involvement is.

[Brockololly]

Reading over some of the early reviews it seems like a typical Obsidian game- good story and all that with a good deal of technical bugs. Although all reviews seem to be on the 360, not PC. Still,most of the reviews are positive despite the technical bugs and stuff.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Brockololly wrote...

Reading over some of the early reviews it seems like a typical Obsidian game- good story and all that with a good deal of technical bugs. Although all reviews seem to be on the 360, not PC. Still,most of the reviews are positive despite the technical bugs and stuff.

Well Fallout 3 was way more buggy than Alpha Protocol, so I would call it more of a case of a crappy engine than anything.

PHYSICS, NONSENSE, GEOMETRY THATS ALL WE NEED, GEOMETRY WITHOUT PAYING ATTENTION TO PHYSICS!  JUST PUT HAVOK ON THE BOX IN BIG LETTERS THATS WHAT 
WE HAVE RIGHT?

I'm pretty sure thats how that design document read

[Brockololly]

slimgrin wrote...
As long as you don't have to be connected online when playing, then I can live with that. I'm playing GTA4 and let me tell you, that game has more bloatware and bullsh*t activation than I have ever gone through. Took me an hour and a half to get the damn thing installed. Not well optimized for the pc. Requires GFWL, and asks to install some crap 'RockStar social club' which is software that actually runs in your system tray! I could go on and on. If I wasn't enjoying it so much I would have taken it back to the store the same day.

Ok, I'm done venting. I'll be checking back in this thread for some impressions of the game - spoiler free, I hope.

Oh God yes, GTA4 is a joke on PC with GFWL and all that extra rubbish- coincidentally, GFWL was on Fallout 3 though too. Steam is vastly superior to the joke that is GFWL. Maybe not perfect but far better than GFWL.

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah New Vegas has Steamworks, which I believe requires an initial online activation on Steam but after that you don't need to be online and you don't require the disk to play. I happen to love Steam as they often have insanely good sales for games but it is irritating to have online requirements especially for single player games.

But again, its a lot better than Ubisoft's ridiculous DRM requiring you to always be online, even to play a single player game like Assassin's Creed 2, or else they boot you off.

Ugh, Steam went down so much that I ended up getting The Witcher on disk.  When I want to play, I don't want to have to sit and configure my router.

And we had such a nightmare with GFWL.  We decided not to get the Fallout 3 DLCs precisely because we didn't want to mess with it.  So we got the GOTY box and damn if you didn't have to have a GFWL connection to load disc 2.  Disc 1 played with no problems, but as soon as we hooked up GFWL and disc 2, everything went haywire.  We gave up on it.  I never got to play Point Lookout or Mothership Zeta.  Yes, I'm mad.    I hope this isn't a similar fiasco.

Oh, I recall from the early days of the Bethsoft forums after GOTY came out, the advice was to boot disc 2 from safe mode.  Yeah guys.  Great design there.    Ok I'm done ranting.  I guess.

Modifié par Addai67, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:36 .

[TheMufflon]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

I'd imagine you can't even install it without being connected to steam. I'm also figuring you can't play a retail store bought copy without being connect to steam. Which is all sorts of flat out stupid to begin with.

This annoys me. No, not the Steam thing, I don't really care about that. What is annoying to me is how people prefer to indulge in unfounded speculation instead of actually finding things out and informing themselves. In the time it took you to write that post, you could have found the information, with seconds to spare, and you wouldn't have to 'imagine' and 'figure'. What ever it is that possesses people to revel in their ignorance like this is something I will never understand.

Modifié par TheMufflon, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:50 .

[upsettingshorts]

Oh look another thread that's diverted in a DRM/Steam discussion.



So um... anyone have a character build to share?

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

TheMufflon wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

I'd imagine you can't even install it without being connected to steam. I'm also figuring you can't play a retail store bought copy without being connect to steam. Which is all sorts of flat out stupid to begin with.

This annoys me. No, not the Steam thing, I don't really care about that. What is annoying to me is how people prefer to indulge in unfounded speculation instead of actually finding things out and informing themselves. In the time it took you to write that post, you could have found the information, with seconds to spare, and you wouldn't have to 'imagine' and 'figure'. What ever it is that possesses people to revel in their ignorance like this is something I will never understand.

Well its true that you can't install a retail copy without being connected to Steam. I'm sure you could prolly set Steam to offline mode to play but still, its annoying and shouldn't be required for a single player retail copy.

You want to know what annoys me? People that enjoy and encourage developers and publishers making paying customers jump thru hoops to play a game they legally paid for.  

[TheMufflon]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

You want to know what annoys me? People that enjoy and encourage developers and publishers making paying customers jump thru hoops to play a game they legally paid for.  

But watching you jump through hoops is so immensely entertaining!

[upsettingshorts]

Hah the default male Courier looks like Peyton Manning.