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[DaewaNya]

I just saw the signature edition and I'm interested in buying. So far, I don't care much of the box and all as I only buy my games in digital copy. But, if my little request was to be granted, maybe I'll buy a retail version...

As I only play a female character, would you please Bioware make some kind of dual cover box... The box art on the signature edition features male Hawk. I would be please to see, when you turn around, the same art with Female Hawk instead.

Anyone agree/cares?

[edit] I'd never thought to have so many replies and to bring a debate about LadyHawke's attention... So I'll just make my request a little more clear. All I want is a dual cover, like for example Red Alert 3. RA3 has a dual cover, the standard one everybody knows is this one. But when you turn around it, it becomes this
So I thought it couldn't hurt to do the same thing for DA2 and, when we are it, ME3. Or at least like someone suggests, make a downloadable picture so we can print it ourselves...
That's all, like I said, usually I don't care about retail version !  I'll certainly buy the signature edition, but for now it will be only digital one. If LadyHawke has to appear in the retail cover, then I'll buy for sure the retail version.

Modifié par DaewaNya, 12 décembre 2010 - 05:05 .

[Mecha Tengu]

sexism



you only play female characters

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

It would be cool, but I doubt it will happen.



Would LOVE to be wrong.

[Spartansfan8888]

Agreed. I only play male chars and would feel somewhat disappointed if I felt the personage of Hawke was "supposed" to be female. I've seen so little of the default female Hawke that the first time I saw her as a mage on some xbox live advertising my first thought was that she was Morrigan!

[Daerog]

This has been asked before. Something to do with not wishing to confuse people with marketing thinking that there are two Hawkes or whatever.

Just have the advertised main character in DA3 be female instead of male.

Also, you could always photoshop a new cover and slip it in to make the cover feature lady hawke instead if you really want that. Unless the box doesn't have a slipped in cover and is just a box.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 17 octobre 2010 - 12:09 .

[ErichHartmann]

I'm not thrilled with Garrett Hawke hogging the spotlight. It would be nice to have dual covers with Marian Hawke. I don't have any faith in BioWare's marketing though.

[Ortaya Alevli]

What I wonder is how BioWare would react to such a request, before deciding anything.

Modifié par Ortaya Alevli, 17 octobre 2010 - 12:11 .

[SgtElias]

That would be great, but extremely unlikely.



Unfortunately, we ladies just don't make up a suitable percentage of the fan-base, yet. Or, at least, I assume that's why almost all default characters are male, as is the resulting art and marketing that accompanies them.

[Thunderfox]

They didn't do it for Shepard, so I wouldn't get my hopes up

[Skellimancer]

Just shave his beard and add lipstick.

[Mecha Tengu]

hey some women have beards

[Quinnzel]

I would be fine with this as long as femHawke had an equally awesome beard.

[SLC]

Yeah, I've heard plenty of people praise female shepard over male, and obviously they work hard to make strong female leads, but they never market them! In fact, when looking at the trailor and making of dragon age 2, I got PISSED because I thought you had to be a pre-made male. Now I'm on here solely to find out about this supposed female version of the main character. Bioware, you break ground, and then you completely cover it up, what's the deal?

[Nyaore]

ThunderfoxF wrote...

They didn't do it for Shepard, so I wouldn't get my hopes up

They are getting better about it though, you have to admit that. At least this time around some of the first screenshots available for the game were of female Hawke. It took up until the last few weeks of Mass Effect 2's release for them to do the same, much to the chagrin of many players.
That said however it would probably take a major kick in the pants for their marketing team to deem any dual representation of the genders to be worth their time.

[Allison W]

Female leads don't get marketed for some reason, not just in Dragon Age, but in many franchises where you can choose the gender of the player character.



I imagine that reason has something to do with the societal "minority effect": for some reason, it's easier to market identification with white people to nonwhite people and with men to women, but white people won't spend money on something expecting them to identify with nonwhite people and men won't spend money on something expecting them to identify with women.



I can only imagine it's a privilege thing and has to do with perceptions of nonwhites and women as "lesser" or "other," and that no one wants to get moved down the societal totem pole, even vicariously.

[Altima Darkspells]

You get the soundtrack--and various other minor things, I think like some weapons and another character--with the signature edition. If you're going to get the game on launch, there's no reason to NOT get the signature edition.



Because the music will be awesome.

[Sabariel]

Never going to happen. You could always draw breasts on Man Hawke with a Sharpie and pretend he's Lady Hawke.

[GodWood]

Allison W wrote...
Female leads don't get marketed for some reason, not just in Dragon Age, but in many franchises where you can choose the gender of the player character.

Jade Empire had Wu the Lotus Blossom as their marketing face.

So at least it's not something they've never done.

Modifié par GodWood, 11 décembre 2010 - 06:01 .

[Matchy Pointy]

I would love the cover to show both the default male and female Hawke (if nothing else to make up for that only male Shepard show up in marketing).

[PsychoBlonde]

SLC wrote...

Yeah, I've heard plenty of people praise female shepard over male, and obviously they work hard to make strong female leads, but they never market them! In fact, when looking at the trailor and making of dragon age 2, I got PISSED because I thought you had to be a pre-made male.

I thought this about ME1 because all the marketing I saw referred to Shepard as a GUY.  Partly as a consequence of that, I didn't get it until like 6 months after the PC release.

I kind of liked the box art from Origins, which had no people on it--it's so common to have a bunch of characters in quasi-dramatic poses on cover art that the more abstract stuff feels better branded and more distinct to me.

[Liablecocksman]

Allison W wrote...

I can only imagine it's a privilege thing and has to do with perceptions of nonwhites and women as "lesser" or "other," and that no one wants to get moved down the societal totem pole, even vicariously.

What, really?

I mean, really?

[Liyros]

KOTOR 2 (I know Obsidian developed it, not Bioware) even had the canon PC as female and I recall that the commercials focused on a dude.



I'd love for this to happen, but I'm resigned to a male Hawke and that majestic beard of his. Ah well. Like Psycho mentioned, some gamers don't even realize there's a female option and either don't bother buying the game or find out later. Though again, that's probably not a sizable percentage.

[Matchy Pointy]

Saslic wrote...

KOTOR 2 (I know Obsidian developed it, not Bioware) even had the canon PC as female and I recall that the commercials focused on a dude.

I'd love for this to happen, but I'm resigned to a male Hawke and that majestic beard of his. Ah well. Like Psycho mentioned, some gamers don't even realize there's a female option and either don't bother buying the game or find out later. Though again, that's probably not a sizable percentage.

I actually think Lucasarts decide the cannon there, not obsidian (though I might be wrong).

[KIrving]

Nyaore wrote...

ThunderfoxF wrote...

They didn't do it for Shepard, so I wouldn't get my hopes up

They are getting better about it though, you have to admit that. At least this time around some of the first screenshots available for the game were of female Hawke.

I've only seen the one female hawke screenshot so far and wasn't it originally posted on another site? Do they have any official screenshots of female hawke posted here?  If so then any chance of a link?

[PsychoBlonde]

Saslic wrote...

I'd love for this to happen, but I'm resigned to a male Hawke and that majestic beard of his. Ah well. Like Psycho mentioned, some gamers don't even realize there's a female option and either don't bother buying the game or find out later. Though again, that's probably not a sizable percentage.

ME fooled me because it was such a dramatic (at the time) change for Bioware.  I'd been out of the gaming loop for a while and it took me some time to get up to speed.

I think Gothic is the only game series I've played (wait, Prince of Persia also--and Planescape: Torment) where there was very definitely ONE MALE CHARACTER and I still REALLY REALLY enjoyed it.  But for the most part I really don't like to play male characters, maybe because I think they're cute and the sensation of being attracted to "myself" weirds me out.