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Will some people find themselves unable to play as a rogue?


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DalishRanger

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Nope, won't have an issue. Most of my characters in DA:O were rogues, though my main is a mage. I'm going to either play as a warrior or rogue first in DA2, and I've been leaning closer towards rogue - mostly to help balance out the starting party (warrior brother, mage sister), as that often helps me adjust the best to a new game and its combat, even if it's based off the interface of an older game. My rogues are usually for my dual wielders or archers, things I view as more finesse fighting than a warrior class - at least in DA:O - seems to invoke.

I'm considering making my main a warrior though, if I like the interface of them enough. Mainly because I do enjoy fighter type characters, but never really played them much in Origins.

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KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. It was only as a city elf that i managed to convince myself that it made sense.. 


Bored nobles will entertain themselves in any number of ways.

My first toon was a bored human noble who fancied himself a swashbuckling playboy, and didn't approve of being stuck in the stupid castle so he went around pickpocketing, breaking into places he wasnt meant to enter, and sleeping with everybody.

And I made him look like Errol Flynn.

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i always make a rogue first in every game i can..



you get to enjoy the world while sneaking to cut the throats of your enemies, not to mention you can open all the goodie chests and open any locked doors..

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If your noble is rebellious they'd know how to pick a lock ;)

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Darthnemesis2

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Noblility goes with rogueishness like peanut butter and jelly.

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Darthnemesis2 wrote...

Noblility goes with rogueishness like peanut butter and jelly chocolate.




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I've had a ton of fun playing Rogues in DA:O, and I never saw any fault with the youngest child of the Highever line being a bit of a libertine or rake. Moreover, I found playing Warriors mind-numbingly boring, especially since the aggro control abilities such as threaten didn't seem to work all too well. Which left Warriors kinda bland compared to all the stuff a Rogue could do.

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Dr. wonderful wrote...

Rogues.

All day, every day baby.


Tru dat, son! B)

lol I love playing as rogue. Duel-weapon Rogue with high cunning and dexterity is my thing. Speed, evasion, and backstabs galorrrr! Skills like dirty fighting, evasion, and later ghost and flicker almost made my rogues untouchable. When it comes to making a fighter, I just prefer them to be nimble and agile, rather than brute strength. As someone said, rogues have the opportunity to make a more versitile team. I played a warrior once and I found it annoying that I needed to bring Leliana(or Zev) everywhere or risk having to backtrack in order to pick a lock for a chest or door. With my main character taking care of all that for me, I can have Zev or Leliana concentrate of their skill tree. I think I also have OCD when it comes to picking locks... it must be me that does so, ME I SAY!

As for working it into the origins, well the Howes are nobility and they're rogues. Can't see why it matters. I'd like to think my noble dwarf or human were the rebellious-sort. While most, if not all, of their family were warrioers, they were more interested in the other arts of fighting; seeing the value of speed and cunning tactics in battle. During the final battle of the game, when you're forced to play another party at the gates, I always switched from fighting with Sten or Oghren to either Zev or Leliana. Sorry, but they were sooo slow in their strikes, that I found it unbearable to play them.

I'm excited to see how the rogue plays in DA2 with the improved battle engine.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

Noblility goes with rogueishness like peanut butter and jelly chocolate.


[old skool reese's peanut butter cup commercial]



Or that i guess...Posted Image

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KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. It was only as a city elf that i managed to convince myself that it made sense.
I'm wondering if people will play as a rogue in DA2 on their first playthrough because for it's something that i just won't be able to do.
When i picture the Champion of Kirkwall i either think of a great warrior who can fight off any enemy or a mage whose spells can kill dozens not someone whose defining ability is that they can make it harder for people to spot them or they pick a lock. 


I had NO problems playing a HNF rogue.

I roleplayed it that my father brought in retired rogues from the Rebellion to teach me when I had no interest in being a warrior.

Use your imagination. :wizard:

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Dave of Canada wrote...

When I make a rogue, I always make them into a duelist. They are master sword-fighters, just not trained in the use of armor. Like I imagine nobles training their child in sparring for example.


Exactly.

And there is NO rule saying you have to learn to pick pocket.

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KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. 


Any person, noble or not, can learn to pick locks. Maybe the Prince or Teryn was a shady kid and was always going places he shouldn't, hence learning how to pick locks?

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KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. It was only as a city elf that i managed to convince myself that it made sense.
I'm wondering if people will play as a rogue in DA2 on their first playthrough because for it's something that i just won't be able to do.
When i picture the Champion of Kirkwall i either think of a great warrior who can fight off any enemy or a mage whose spells can kill dozens not someone whose defining ability is that they can make it harder for people to spot them or they pick a lock. 


Nah. Rogue rules.

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There's a distinction between being a 'rogue' and a 'thief.' Being a rogue is more of a tactical choice than an association with criminal activities. It means fighting with speed and cunning rather than brute strength. It's about being resourceful and gaining an advantage in every battle.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 17 octobre 2010 - 08:46 .


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I actually like to think of a Sherlock Holmes-ish bohemian lifestyle whenever I have to imagine a noble rogue.



Holmes made up his entire profession because he was bored.

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Riona45 wrote...

I love mages, so I'm not arguing against playing them, but we haven't seen much yet, and in one thread from a few days back, Mary Kirby mentioned that there are paths in the game that only non-mages can take just as there are mage-only paths.


You know, the first time I read that, I imagined it said there are PANTS in the game that only non-mages can take, just as there are mage-only PANTS.

 :P

Modifié par Face of Evil, 17 octobre 2010 - 08:49 .


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BEWARE THE MAGIC PANTS OF CAPS-LOCK!

But yeah, as others have said Rogue is more akin to 'scout' than 'thief', so they have more skills to make them adaptable. I usuall play a sword 'n' board tank but currently I'm going through as a medium armor duelist/assassin.

Modifié par Copyright Theft, 17 octobre 2010 - 08:56 .


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shepard_lives wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. It was only as a city elf that i managed to convince myself that it made sense.
I'm wondering if people will play as a rogue in DA2 on their first playthrough because for it's something that i just won't be able to do.
When i picture the Champion of Kirkwall i either think of a great warrior who can fight off any enemy or a mage whose spells can kill dozens not someone whose defining ability is that they can make it harder for people to spot them or they pick a lock. 


Nah. Rogue rules.


Yeah, I do.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

shepard_lives wrote...

Nah. Rogue rules.


Yeah, I do.


Gotta love megalomania.

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I almost always play as a rogue, I have finished the game with five characters and four of them are rogues. :)

I have yet to finish a playthough as a mage. A few hours in and I get bored and go back to a rogue instead.

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Yellow Words wrote...

I almost always play as a rogue, I have finished the game with five characters and four of them are rogues. :)
I have yet to finish a playthough as a mage. A few hours in and I get bored and go back to a rogue instead.


More of the opposite for me, Mage mainly then Rogue a few times couldnt be a warrior in Origins way too boring :)

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KJandrew wrote...

 I've had about seven playthroughs of DAO and I've been a rogue for one, it's just something i can never bring myself to do. To me it just makes very little sense why the Prince of Orzammer or Teyrn of Highever would know how to picklock. It was only as a city elf that i managed to convince myself that it made sense.
I'm wondering if people will play as a rogue in DA2 on their first playthrough because for it's something that i just won't be able to do.
When i picture the Champion of Kirkwall i either think of a great warrior who can fight off any enemy or a mage whose spells can kill dozens not someone whose defining ability is that they can make it harder for people to spot them or they pick a lock. 



I felt the same way about it. Dwarf castless, and city elf were the only ones who I thought it made sense to play as rogues. On the other hand, I always played as a warrior , anyway. I just like it better. Not that keen on stabbing in the back and such.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 octobre 2010 - 04:38 .


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Modifié par Ymladdych, 28 septembre 2011 - 01:34 .


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I always make my first playthrough as a warrior, but usually never play as a warrior again. Rogues are my personal favorite.

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Nathaniel was a rogue and a noble...



I can never get going as a warrior - I just get bored with their slowness. Usually play a rogue, only ever wear light armour... I love rogues..:)