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[Nightwriter]

I am less than surprised by how many people killed him. It's a natural human reaction to such experimentation.

Shandepared wrote...

You mean the same man who gunned down a bunch of blue suns after immobilizing them with a toxin?

The same Mordin who second gusses you if you don't gun down the batarians threatening David?

I don't think we're talking about the same character her.

I don't really think I need to state that self-defense is hardly demonizing.

Mordin values life, but he is not a pushover. You have probably hit upon one of my favorite aspects of him here.

[Zan51]

Pacifien wrote...

Salarians give traitors to Urdnot Torsk.

^That. I let Maelon go because being a Salarian alone among the Krogan was a more fitting fate than a quick death. Yes, I am a paragon, but sometimes paragons have to just turn their backs and let Nature take its course. (you know, "red in tooth and claw...")

[Pacifien]

Nightwriter wrote...
I am less than surprised by how many people killed him. It's a natural human reaction to such experimentation.

Hey, Mordin killed him. My Shepard was busy hacking the terminal for credits.

[LadyJaneGrey]

I've done both.  Ideally, I'd grab Maelon and the evidence and ship it all back to the Salarians.

I RPed my last Shepard as a Colonist whose parents were doctors.  She didn't have much sympathy for Maelon's conducting those experiments on living victims.

[Therion942]

Pacifien wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
I am less than surprised by how many people killed him. It's a natural human reaction to such experimentation.

Hey, Mordin killed him. My Shepard was busy hacking the terminal for credits.

Morality, psychology, and ethics are all unimportant. The only thing that matters in life is the Galactic Standard Credit.


Every day I'm hustlin' every day I'm hustlin-hustlin-ustlin-ustlin

[LadyJaneGrey]

Pacifien wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
I am less than surprised by how many people killed him. It's a natural human reaction to such experimentation.

Hey, Mordin killed him. My Shepard was busy hacking the terminal for credits.

Priorities are definitely in the right order!

[spthompson]

 I always let him go because I always find myself scrounging for every paragon point I can get to avoid  not having a "blue" option to save one of my team members later on.  In a way, I'm held hostage by the way the game handles paragon vs renegade points.  There have been other threads that discussed this, you seem to either need to be fully paragon or fully renegade to keep your whole team loyal.

[tommyt_1994]

Pacifien wrote...

Salarians give traitors to Urdnot Torsk.

. Some of those SB vids are pretty gruesome.

In regards to Maelon, my Shepard has troubles letting someone who is ok with conducting those kings of experiments go.

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 17 octobre 2010 - 03:16 .

[Nightwriter]

Pacifien wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
I am less than surprised by how many people killed him. It's a natural human reaction to such experimentation.

Hey, Mordin killed him. My Shepard was busy hacking the terminal for credits.

It is weird the way we use the word "kill".

We'll say we killed Ashley or we killed Kaidan. We'll say we killed Sidonis.

Apparently we have a very strict sense of culpability on the forums.

[Pacifien]

Nightwriter wrote...
It is weird the way we use the word "kill".

We'll say we killed Ashley or we killed Kaidan. We'll say we killed Sidonis.

Apparently we have a very strict sense of culpability on the forums.

Well, these deaths are all in the hands of the player, but they're not necessarily in the hands of Shepard. Shepard can talk Garrus to the point where Garrus decides to let Sidonis live, but there's never actually a point where Shepard outright pulls the gun from Garrus and tells him he doesn't want to go through with it. In that situation, Shepard didn't let Sidonis live. The player used Shepard to convince Garrus to let Sidonis live.

So it goes with Maelon. Shepard didn't pull the trigger, but the player can have Shepard stop Mordin from pulling the trigger. But like my first response in this thread, I had a Shepard that went to stop Mordin from pulling the trigger, but was too late because I was too late in taking the interrupt. Rather than reload, I just let it stay. In that scenario, Shepard didn't want to kill Maelon, but Maelon still died.

Modifié par Pacifien, 17 octobre 2010 - 03:25 .

[enayasoul]

I did both ways. My renegade bar was already maxed so I went with paragon and took the data.

[Nightwriter]

I've always had a problem separating myself from the PC in that regard.

When it comes to Maelon, I see a figure much like Aresh. He is undeniably in the wrong, but he is, shall we say, "unwell".

There is just something about tormented madmen. When their plans have all unraveled, and the glamor of their evil has passed, when they are at last cornered and beaten, they seem somehow... diminished.

And suddenly they are very small. Like a child.

[DPSSOC]

Shandepared wrote...

MrFob wrote...

How can anyone rationalize to just kill that guy for trying to help the Krogan (albeit in a misguided and twisted way).

Gosh, I don't know, maybe it has to do with conducting experiments on unwilling test subjects, stealing classified information that could start a war, and being unrepetent about the whole thing?

 
Technically he didn't steal it.  He had clearance, asked for and received the data.  That's like saying your brother stole your car because you loaned it to him and he used it to commit a crime.  It's a good way to avoid being pinned as an accessory certainly but it doesn't make it true.

[jlb524]

I never kill him...I think his heart was in the right place, as odd as that sounds.



He's a good kid.

[Christmas Ape]

If you're still trying to be a Spectre, he needs to die.

What's your job description? Preserve galactic stability. Under no circumstances does "krogan released from the genophage" qualify as preserving galactic stability. Maelon is a textbook example of the reasons Spectres are above the law in the execution of their duties; it might not be right to let Mordin shoot him, but it is necessary.

Besides, they were going to be making trouble for Urdnot, and King Bro needs all the help he can get right now.

[Nightwriter]

Shandepared wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I never kill him...I think his heart was in the right place, as odd as that sounds.

So was Adolf Hitler's.

There, Godwin. It was inevitable. Might as well get it out of the way now.

So is TIM's for that matter.

Highly debatable.

[The Grey Ranger]

It really depends on the Shepard I'm playing I've played it both ways. My ruthless, colonist Shepard saw the experimented upon human and went whoever did this dies. My spacer, war hero spared him because she believes in second chances and he wasn't actively trying to kill her at that point.

[Zulu_DFA]

jlb524 wrote...

I never kill him....

Me neither. Mordin does.

[forgivingrud]

Christmas Ape wrote...

If you're still trying to be a Spectre, he needs to die.
What's your job description? Preserve galactic stability. Under no circumstances does "krogan released from the genophage" qualify as preserving galactic stability. Maelon is a textbook example of the reasons Spectres are above the law in the execution of their duties; it might not be right to let Mordin shoot him, but it is necessary.
Besides, they were going to be making trouble for Urdnot, and King Bro needs all the help he can get right now.

This is the reason I can never stop Mordin from killing him. I always have my Shepard's be good people that do what has to be done. He is nice to everyone except his enemies, he has nothing against Maelon and probably even feels bad it had to come to that point. But the point is that it did, no matter how much he wanted Maelon to live, he knew he was too much of a risk because of what Maelon was doing. In the end I think Mordin even realized that, doesnt he say "have to kill you..." not "I am going to kill you!".

[Pacifien]

Shandepared wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
Highly debatable.

How so?

If the answer must include a discussion of Hitler, take it to PM. Just sayin'.

[Nightwriter]

Now, really. It had nothing to do with Hitler. You are a scarily on-the-ball moderator, Pacifien.

[ODST 3]

I care not for Maelon. For Mordin's sake, however, I keep him from killing his old friend.