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[Violetta92]

What are the best game developers out there? Be they active, defunct, or formerly good but not anymore.

Active
-Valve (Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Ricochet, Deathmatch classic, Portal, Day of Defeat)
-BioWare (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Star Wars: The Old Republic)
-Retro Studios (Metroid Prime)
-Mythic Entertainment (Aliens Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Warhammer Online, Ultima Online)
-Relic Entertainment (Homeworld, Company of Heroes, Dawn of War)
-NetDevil (Jumpgate, Auto Assault, Lego Universe)


Defunct
-Parallax Software (Descent)
-Outrage Entertainment (Descent)
-Westwood Studios (Command & Conquer, Dune)
-Cavedog Entertainment (Total Annihilation)
-Ensemble Studios (Age of Empires)
-Dynamix (Tribes)
-FASA (MechWarrior)
-MicroProse (Civilization, MechWarrior)
-SSI (Soldiers at War, Rites of War)


Formerly Good
-Blizzard Entertainment (StarCraft, Warcraft, Diablo)
-Red Storm Entertainment (Rainbow Six, The Sum of All Fears, Politika)
-id Software (Quake, Doom, Wolfenstein, Heretic)
-Gas Powered Games (Dungeon Siege, Space Siege, Supreme Commander, Demigod)
-Volition (Descent FreeSpace)
-DICE (Battlefield, Medal of Honor 2010)

[Tazzmission]

all good

midway now known as neather realm studios ( creators of mortal kombat)

bioware oviously for great hits like knights of the old republic mass effect and dragon age

rock* studios for grand theft auto and read dead redemption

square enix for final fantasy

konami for metal gear solid

Modifié par Tazzmission, 17 octobre 2010 - 02:34 .

[Rockworm503]

Valve I agree
Bioware Agree
Retro I agree
haven't played anything from Mythic so no comment
same with Relic and Netdevil.

Microprose helped make The Worms series so their awesome in my book.

I think Blizzard is still good their just getting greedy thanks to Activasion
Id was great back in the day.
and Descent used to be my favorite game ever so yes on volition.

Adding to the best for me is
Rockstar (GTA DUH)
Bathesda (Elder Scrolls Series, Fallout 3.)
Obsidian (KOTOR 2, NWN 2, Planescape Torment, Fallout New Vegas)
Nintendo (obvious)
Sony (God of War, Ratchet and Clank.)

adding to Formely good
Ubisoft (Still make good games but their DRM makes me hate them completely)
EA (also involved in good games but they got so big that its all about the money and I fear their bringing companies like Bioware down in quality)
Activision (same thing with EA except with Blizzard)

thats all I can think of right now.

Modifié par Rockworm503, 17 octobre 2010 - 02:40 .

[watermeloncat615]

Bioware for Mass effect 2 and Dragon Age!

Bungier for Halo: Reach

[Nameless one7]

Add to good developer list
Atlus is a good developer on certain games. (Namely the Persona series, Disgaea)
Incognito Entertainment (Twisted Metal, Twisted Metal 2, Twisted Metal Black)

Defunct
Black Isle (Fallout 1&2, Planescape Torment)
Troika (Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, Arcanum)
Origin (Ultima Online, Ultima 1-8) (Acquired by EA and stopped the production of individual games)
Bullfrog Entertainemnt (Dungeon Keeper 1 & 2) (Killed by EA)

Formerly Good
Square Enix

Modifié par Nameless one7, 17 octobre 2010 - 03:01 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Smilebit was a really good studio that is no longer around

As well as Sir-Tech

[Jonp382]

Capt. Obvious wrote...



id Software is still good.

It's hard to say honestly, they haven't actually made a game since Doom 3(which imo is very good). They assisted with Quake 4 and Wolfenstein, but a lot of that was Raven's work. Quake Live is mostly Quake 3.(But it's still good, been playing it a lot lately.) I think I can make a definitive judgement with Rage, if that game ever comes out.

[ObserverStatus]

1. Bioware (Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origin, KotOR)

2. Blizzard (Starcraft, Diablo II, Warcraft III)

3. Retro Studios (Metroid Prime Trilogy, Donkey Kong Country Returns)

4. Bethseda (Oblivion, Fallout 3)

5. Obsidian (KotOR II, Fallout: New Vegas)

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I think Blizzard is still good their just getting greedy thanks to Activasion

It makes me facepalm when I see someone accuse Blizz of being greedy yet be totally blind to the fact that Bioware has become so much worse in that regard. Ok maybe Blizz is a little greedy releasing SC2 in 3 installments (however you dont put a game through a 10 year development cycle if your sole goal is profits) however if you would actually take notice of what Bioware is like nowdays you would see that they are a whole lot greedier than Blizz by a mile.

Just look at their products, the cut corners, the mounds of sub par DLC and the content that should have been released with the game however were cut just so they could charge extra for it as DLC, hell they even shortened the dev cycle on DA2 because they know that even though it will probably be a poor, buggy mess the fans will eat it up like the **** it is.

As you can probably tell from my post I would take Bioware from the "good" pile and post it in the "formerly good" pile, Bioware is no longer a good games developer however unfortunately when it comes to RPG developers they are the best we have, it is unfortunate that RPGs have sunk so low, the closest competition Bioware currently has is Obsidian and while they have shown that they can write a better story than Bioware (at least better than Bioware's current games) it is the other aspects of their games that let them down.




But really I would like somebody to create a list of the good RPG developers still around today as from what I can see the list is very short.

Hmm it seems I have forgotten about CDprojekt, these guys did show us they mean buisness with the Witcher and could be a good contender to rise to the top of the RPG market.

[Rockworm503]

Oh please I never said that Bioware was clean but to say their more greedy than Blizzard? Pah.... Blizzard already has a money printer with WoW and yet its still not enough. How much content and the development cycle for SC2 is irrelevant. No one who isn't in it for the money makes a game and then splits it into 4 parts asking you to pay full price for each part.

If you want a good example Look at Rockstar and their GTA 4 DLC... Lost and The Damned + Ballad of Gay Tony are called DLC but their more like their own games. You can easily tell Rock* is not in it for the money.

Yeah I think Bioware are greedy too but I think thats EA mostly.

I don't buy DLC unless I'm REALLY sold on it and ME2's DLC sold me and I wasn't disappointed... Especially with Lair of the Shadow Broker. That is quality DLC and I felt like my money was worth it.

And while ME2 may lack in the story department it did get everything else right.

[Rockworm503]

You haven't heard the horror stories? The massive lay offs for no apperant reason? Making boneheaded decision on game design that makes no sense?

http://ealouse.wordp...12/hello-world/

and EA employee saying why Warhammer online Failed and saying why Old Republic Online will too.... That doesn't give me very much faith in them.

It doesn't take a genius to see where the money grubbing is coming from because we all know that Bioware itself is passionate about good game design.

[Some Geth]

 Capcom:whistle:.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Intelligent Systems is pretty solid whenever they make a game



Cavia was all over the place, but as a defunct developer they deserve a mention, Iguana studios the same but more conservative so not really as memorable.



Game Arts has gone down in quality over their last few releases

[Jesse Houston]

I've worked at some of those

[ObserverStatus]

Blizzard made the decisions to split starcraft 2 into 3 parts itself. Blizzard is only part of activision in name.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Oh please I never said that Bioware was clean but to say their more greedy than Blizzard? Pah.... Blizzard already has a money printer with WoW and yet its still not enough. How much content and the development cycle for SC2 is irrelevant. No one who isn't in it for the money makes a game and then splits it into 4 parts asking you to pay full price for each part.

4 parts? I heard it was only 3, also where did you hear that each stand alone expansion would cost full price? I cant see any information on this (however I did see something where apparently Blizz said that Warcraft 4 will use the same model, Warcraft 4 confirmed?) however as far as I can see this is a mere assumption and not fact. Also lets take into account that SC2 took 10 years to make and each expansion will have at least a 2-3 year dev cycle where as we can see with DA2 Bioware are charging full price for something that will take them little over a year to create so yes all things considered Bioware are far greedier than Blizz.

Rockworm503 wrote...
It doesn't take a genius to see where the money grubbing is coming from because we all know that Bioware itself is passionate about good game design.

Have a look at Mass Effect, I would hardly call that good game design and that was made before the EA takeover.

Do you call reusing the same 4 interiors for ever sidequest, dull featureless planets, shonky stat based 3rd person shooter mechanics and the horrible inventory and weapon upgrade system good game design? 

[Rockworm503]

Thats a matter of preference take out the copy paste side quest interiors and the Mako and yes its GREAT game design. You don't like the shooter aspect of it and thats fine but its not a bad game by any stretch.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Yes yes it is, I like shooters however the combat featured in Mass Effect was a disgrace, the AI was horrible so tactics and cover were useless and the stats made fights take no skill and come down to the simply whoever has the most health and highest damage output wins.

Also can you really tell me that the weapon upgrade system in Mass Effect was good? Constantly having to find the same weapon but with higher stats and whatnot is fun? Upgrade from Banshee 1 to Banshee 2 to Banshee 3 gets really tedious and the only weapons that I actually found were exiting to get were the spectre weapons because I knew that I diddnt have to upgrade my weapons anymore and I could be done with that tedious ****ing weapon upgrade system.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 17 octobre 2010 - 07:33 .

[Rockworm503]

cool story bro.



I upgraded my weapons maybe 3 times a playthrough. It wasn't that big a deal.

[DukeOfNukes]

Jesse Houston wrote...

I've worked at some of those

Quit lying

BioWare and Valve are the only companies I really trust as far as "brand name" type thing. Beyond that, I don't have too many strong feelings for particular companies. (aside from hating Activision and resenting the unwarranted popularity of Bethesda)