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What Race Made The Reapers?
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#26
Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 06:11
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My theory: Some mad scientist from a hyper-advanced race thought he'd make his species stronger by turning them into Reapers. Similiar to ReconTeam's idea.
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#27
Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 06:25
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Okay here is my theory, but bare with me on this because it might be completely complex and a little too much for everyone here. So here it goes. Humanity created robots so when it came too that they wanted to create an AI. They created Skynet. A war broke out and all that hoopla. Year's later, Skynet opened a alternate universe where they shot their single AI core into the other Earth.
That other Earth was met with the Decipticons. The Decipticons made better use of the AI core and began building their own machines from this core before they were revolted. The Decipticons opened another portal to another alternative universe where they shot the original AI core into that universe's Earth.
From there, the AI core began to reproduce itself. Before long it created a self-reflected image of humans and decided to call themselves Cylons. Sadly however, they nuked themselves to hell before sending their AI core to a group of humans living in the twelve colonies. They later created robotic AI where they were encompassed in a brutal war before nearly going extinct. Leaving their homeworld of Caprica, they left to find a planet called "Earth". Once they found it, and got rid of all traces of technology except the AI core that somehow survived.
Sadly however mankind developed the tech for AI and thus in the future of 2054, humanity created advance AI called "replicants" where they revolted against humanity. The replicants found this AI core and began mass producing themselves to wage war against humans but they were still losing. Fearing their ultimate demise, they opened a portal in time to send their AI core to the other universe. This universe was brand new, and the AI core began reproducing itself.
Millions and millions of years later, the machines call themselves the Reapers and soon kill intelligent species every so often. It's all a theory, but I think it will work.
That other Earth was met with the Decipticons. The Decipticons made better use of the AI core and began building their own machines from this core before they were revolted. The Decipticons opened another portal to another alternative universe where they shot the original AI core into that universe's Earth.
From there, the AI core began to reproduce itself. Before long it created a self-reflected image of humans and decided to call themselves Cylons. Sadly however, they nuked themselves to hell before sending their AI core to a group of humans living in the twelve colonies. They later created robotic AI where they were encompassed in a brutal war before nearly going extinct. Leaving their homeworld of Caprica, they left to find a planet called "Earth". Once they found it, and got rid of all traces of technology except the AI core that somehow survived.
Sadly however mankind developed the tech for AI and thus in the future of 2054, humanity created advance AI called "replicants" where they revolted against humanity. The replicants found this AI core and began mass producing themselves to wage war against humans but they were still losing. Fearing their ultimate demise, they opened a portal in time to send their AI core to the other universe. This universe was brand new, and the AI core began reproducing itself.
Millions and millions of years later, the machines call themselves the Reapers and soon kill intelligent species every so often. It's all a theory, but I think it will work.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 06:29
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I think there are only two possibilities. The first is that like the Geth, the Reapers were originally created to serve an organic species, but at some point they rebelled. Unlike the Geth however they managed to bring about the exctinction of their former masters.
The other possibility is that the first species to fall victim to the cycle, did so willingly, in some odd way of achieving eternal life. Or at least they in part did it willingly. It is probably safe to assume that if a species willingly reaped itself, that of the millions or billions of members of that civilization there would have been some, and perhaps many, that resisted but ultimately were forcibly repurposed.
The other possibility is that the first species to fall victim to the cycle, did so willingly, in some odd way of achieving eternal life. Or at least they in part did it willingly. It is probably safe to assume that if a species willingly reaped itself, that of the millions or billions of members of that civilization there would have been some, and perhaps many, that resisted but ultimately were forcibly repurposed.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 07:12
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I think it will turn out that they were created by the keepers or whatever it was the keepers were before they were repurposed.
Infact i think the keepers are potentially our strongest ally.
Infact i think the keepers are potentially our strongest ally.
Modifié par piemanz, 18 octobre 2010 - 07:15 .
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 07:14
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 07:24
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piemanz wrote...
I think it will turn out that they were created by the keepers or whatever it was the keepers were before they were repurposed.
Infact i think the keepers are potentially our strongest ally.
I think it is quite possible that the keepers were the first species to fall, but I'm not sure whether or not they'll ever be allies. I think the species has been permanetly altered to the point that they are no longer sapient.
#32
Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 07:48
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I'm also going to point in the direction of the Commies. It was their response to the threat posed by Liberty Prime.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 10:27
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Read carefully.
To form a planet fit for life, requires special conditions, almost a miracle.
Need one more miracle, for for the appearance of life on this planet.
This primitive life should evolve over millions of years.
Then this life must learn, how to divide one number by another.
Then this life must reach the level of technology capable to spacewalk.
Then, these technologies must reach a level at which it is possible to travel beyond the speed of light.
And only after that can cover the entire galaxy, just imagine an entire galaxy from its very edge to the center, a network of Mass Relay.
Do you think it will happen in a short time?
During this time, the galaxy will come to its finale, most of the stars will grow old.
Impossible to achieve such progress during the existence of galaxies and then wait for the others every 50,000 years.
Reapers came from a black hole, but all is not understood why, and so most opt for a simple and intuitive variant.
I want to clarify.
Yes, Reapers crossed the "event horizon" - crossed center of a black hole.
Most also do not understand that Reapers - is not a machine, they are hybrid of organic and machine.
Long ago was a race, which reveal the secrets of dark matter and the zero element, has established a network of repeaters throughout the galaxy, but the galaxy will came to its finale.
What is important for organic life? You know?
Favorable conditions for the existence of, a favorable climate. Their Galaxy is old, the not conditions there.
What's left to do? Look for another galaxy, but when the galaxy to grow old, nearest galaxies will be beyond the reach of, even for FLT.
And what conclusion?
Reapers are hybrids organic - machine, because they had no other way, or perish in the dying galaxy, or try to survive - crossing a black hole.
If you watched Star Trek director JJ Abrams, you know how it happened.
I also wanted to tell you about the motives of Reapers.
Sovereign: "Each of us is a nation"
Harbinger: "That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.
They do not want destroy organic life, because "We foolish people, and they a intelligent machines"
They are trying to maintain a decent race, because our galaxy will die, but decent races will exist.
To form a planet fit for life, requires special conditions, almost a miracle.
Need one more miracle, for for the appearance of life on this planet.
This primitive life should evolve over millions of years.
Then this life must learn, how to divide one number by another.
Then this life must reach the level of technology capable to spacewalk.
Then, these technologies must reach a level at which it is possible to travel beyond the speed of light.
And only after that can cover the entire galaxy, just imagine an entire galaxy from its very edge to the center, a network of Mass Relay.
Do you think it will happen in a short time?
During this time, the galaxy will come to its finale, most of the stars will grow old.
Impossible to achieve such progress during the existence of galaxies and then wait for the others every 50,000 years.
Reapers came from a black hole, but all is not understood why, and so most opt for a simple and intuitive variant.
I want to clarify.
Yes, Reapers crossed the "event horizon" - crossed center of a black hole.
Most also do not understand that Reapers - is not a machine, they are hybrid of organic and machine.
Long ago was a race, which reveal the secrets of dark matter and the zero element, has established a network of repeaters throughout the galaxy, but the galaxy will came to its finale.
What is important for organic life? You know?
Favorable conditions for the existence of, a favorable climate. Their Galaxy is old, the not conditions there.
What's left to do? Look for another galaxy, but when the galaxy to grow old, nearest galaxies will be beyond the reach of, even for FLT.
And what conclusion?
Reapers are hybrids organic - machine, because they had no other way, or perish in the dying galaxy, or try to survive - crossing a black hole.
If you watched Star Trek director JJ Abrams, you know how it happened.
I also wanted to tell you about the motives of Reapers.
Sovereign: "Each of us is a nation"
Harbinger: "That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.
They do not want destroy organic life, because "We foolish people, and they a intelligent machines"
They are trying to maintain a decent race, because our galaxy will die, but decent races will exist.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 11:59
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Would you like tp explain how life requires "Special: conditions" exactly what those special conditions are.. and how we know it as fact.
Current theory is, life can exist in any place energy can form stable cells.
Its even been thought that the Sun itself could have types of life.
Secondly
Also at our current level creating ships that travel at just 10% the speed of light at there Maximum speed is plauseable.
Current Estimates are up to maybe a million years for humanity to colonise the ~220 billion stars in our galaxy, assuming each star has a habitable resources.. doesnt need to be a planet it can be astroids etc and with ships that can travel no faster then 10% light speed.
Would you like tp explain how life requires "Special: conditions" exactly what those special conditions are.. and how we know it as fact.
Current theory is, life can exist in any place energy can form stable cells.
Its even been thought that the Sun itself could have types of life.
Secondly
Also at our current level creating ships that travel at just 10% the speed of light at there Maximum speed is plauseable.
Current Estimates are up to maybe a million years for humanity to colonise the ~220 billion stars in our galaxy, assuming each star has a habitable resources.. doesnt need to be a planet it can be astroids etc and with ships that can travel no faster then 10% light speed.
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#35
Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 12:11
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hamtyl07 wrote...
if we are throwing the commies and kim jong il into this i guess i will add my 2 cents and blame Al-Qaeda
Excuse me Sir. This is EA, we're not allowed to use terms like Al-Qaeda. It may possibly get you Tali-banned.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 01:01
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If the Reapers recycled Protheans into the Collectors, then it's safe to guess that probably the Keepers were of the same fate, first of the vanquished to be recycled into organic tools.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 03:59
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Crimzon Nutcase wrote...
hamtyl07 wrote...
if we are throwing the commies and kim jong il into this i guess i will add my 2 cents and blame Al-Qaeda
Excuse me Sir. This is EA, we're not allowed to use terms like Al-Qaeda. It may possibly get you Tali-banned.
ok.... im sorry it wont happen again i guess iwill go back to blameing Kim Jong il and the commies
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 04:23
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im telling you it was barbra streisand (refer to page one for a picture)
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 04:51
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BattleRaptor wrote...
Dem_B
Would you like tp explain how life requires "Special: conditions" exactly what those special conditions are.. and how we know it as fact.
Current theory is, life can exist in any place energy can form stable cells.
Its even been thought that the Sun itself could have types of life.
Secondly
Also at our current level creating ships that travel at just 10% the speed of light at there Maximum speed is plauseable.
Current Estimates are up to maybe a million years for humanity to colonise the ~220 billion stars in our galaxy, assuming each star has a habitable resources.. doesnt need to be a planet it can be astroids etc and with ships that can travel no faster then 10% light speed.
There are some very unique circumstances that made Earth into our biosphere. Technically speaking, Mars should have been a much more suitable biosphere, because of its lower gravity and that it is farther away from harmful radiation from the sun while still being close enough to reap the suns benefits.
Mars has almost no magnetic field. This above eveything else is vital to the existence of complex lifeforms. It shields that life, the liquid water they need, and the atmosphere they live in from the suns radiation. Earths magnetic field is so strong because of a collision with another planet early in the history of our solar system. That collision essentially parked another planet at the center of our own, resulting in a magentic field that is exponentially stronger then it should be (Mars had no such cosmic event), in the orbiting moon, and also in a hot planetary core. The core (or cores really) moves the crust and releases minerals and heat into the atmosphere and the oceans. This phenomenon was likely the foundation of the formation of the first simple lifeforms that came into existence close to volcanic vents deep in the ocean. The Moon moves the oceans themselves, likely resulting in these fundemental lifeforms having to make their first adaptation to that movement, kickstarting evolution itself.
I know that there is some equation about how plentiful life should be in the universe but I just don't buy it. Espescially intelligent life. Every other creature(including the very smartones) on this planet has the tools it needs to survive built right in in. Man has to use tools to survive. Always has. In all the time that life has been about on Earth, man is the only builder. All the different lifeforms that have come and gone and only man has built. And humanity has only been around or a very short amount of time. Either humanity's existence is the very longest of odds, or something is looking out for us and has been for billlions of years.
or 
? Probably Burt Reynolds though.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 10:42
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I think that the race that made the reapers eventully became the reapers (willingly or not)
I mean its been done before, Some unwitting fools create a race of machines for whatever reasons and the machines turn and eventully ensalve there former creators, Its not too uncommon to see machines messing with ways to become more like there creators either (Cylons come to mind), I think the reapers just hit a mid section instead of going all the way and decided to make everyone like them instead of making themselves like everyone else.
I mean its been done before, Some unwitting fools create a race of machines for whatever reasons and the machines turn and eventully ensalve there former creators, Its not too uncommon to see machines messing with ways to become more like there creators either (Cylons come to mind), I think the reapers just hit a mid section instead of going all the way and decided to make everyone like them instead of making themselves like everyone else.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 11:16
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I think I remember sovereign stating they had no beginning, so it may be even they don't know.
Also, that rather poorly formed post about reapers being in black holes... It's said they reside in dark space, as in, empty; outside the galaxy. I do get the point though, maybe it's the reaper's attempt to save "life," by immortalising creatures as reapers.
Oooo, I do enjoy all the speculation that this game invites.
Also, that rather poorly formed post about reapers being in black holes... It's said they reside in dark space, as in, empty; outside the galaxy. I do get the point though, maybe it's the reaper's attempt to save "life," by immortalising creatures as reapers.
Oooo, I do enjoy all the speculation that this game invites.
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Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 11:31
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Munkerz wrote...
I think I remember sovereign stating they had no beginning, so it may be even they don't know.
I dont think they care to be honest, There comes a point to every civilization that expands far far away from there homes that they eventully dont care where they came from anymore (because they have never been there and never will be or it has been destroyed or lost or even abandonded, think like earth after Sol goes supernova, if there still are any humans after that i dont think anyone will remeber earth...)
#45
Posté 18 octobre 2010 - 11:32
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Chuck Norris had sex with himself and made The Reapers
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Posté 19 octobre 2010 - 12:59
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Maybe they came from another galaxy that died or had a HUGEEE!!! war then decided to go travelling for thousands of years until they were on the verge of shutting down because they have no energy left and came across our little galaxy and though hmmm recourses and started killing everything so they could live on or .......
Through the citadel relay there is a special planet/death star kind of thing were they all live or....
There not actually AI and there are little organic beings inside of them controlling them to do their bidding like war of the worlds or...
Humans actually made them and we’ve been on earth a lot longer than we think and the have tried their best to keep us on earth only this time it failed or...
All of the above basically.
I think it’s fair to say the possibilities are endless.
Through the citadel relay there is a special planet/death star kind of thing were they all live or....
There not actually AI and there are little organic beings inside of them controlling them to do their bidding like war of the worlds or...
Humans actually made them and we’ve been on earth a lot longer than we think and the have tried their best to keep us on earth only this time it failed or...
All of the above basically.
I think it’s fair to say the possibilities are endless.
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Posté 19 octobre 2010 - 01:44
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isn't it obvious?
its the underpants gnomes.
they found out step 3.
its the underpants gnomes.
they found out step 3.
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Posté 19 octobre 2010 - 01:58
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They were made by a race of blue oysters.who foolishly failed to fear their creation.
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Posté 19 octobre 2010 - 02:15
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maxernst wrote...
They were made by a race of blue oysters.who foolishly failed to fear their creation.
Nah, that was just a cult...
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Posté 19 octobre 2010 - 07:37
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If anyone interested in my vision motives and origins the Reapers, you can read more this thread.The ideas in this thread, completely overturn our understanding about the Reapers.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4811541/4
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4811541/4
