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[LobselVith8]

Fernando Melo wrote...

Yes.   Keep in mind we're still in development so this may change, but the intent would be to allow you import from completing any Warden-story based content, during or after Origins.  In other words Origins itself (incl Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, Return to Ostagar), or Awakening, Golems of Amgarrak, Witch Hunt.

That's great news.

[KJandrew]

It seems to me that to get the best customisation for your own DA universe then you have to do the dark ritual then

[Zhijn]

Fernando Melo wrote...

Also looking at this.  I believe the idea here depends on whether you
import a save after US, but having not imported into future products. 
In that case the origins choices should be what your US warden did, and
the rest would be an orlesian warden we fill in the gaps for. 

Would it not be possible to have your origin warden/character do the sacrifice with a epilogue autosave.  And then move on to a new orlesian warden that keep the choices you did in origins with your dead warden?. Did that make any sens...

Or is that already the idea.. I dont know!. Been awhile since i played a orlesian warden. =d

[Funker Shepard]

Fernando Melo wrote...

This is not possible due to console restrictions.  I would have to look again, but I'm guessing the "possibility" was maybe coming from misinterpreting something we said (like the fact that an import feature would exist on each platform, and maybe that was read as you could import from any platform to any platform - which is not the case)? 

I remember the post mentioned, and I think I interpreted it so that in addition to/as an alternative to savegame importing, people could 'import' characters through the Bioware Social profile. Which would have been cool, as I have several playthroughs on both PS3 and PC, and wouldn't be averse to continuing the PS3 ones as well. Can see how the console manufacturers might balk at it, but wouldn't really be anything too far from the PS3/Steamworks integration, would it?

[abat223]

I hope we can import our Warden from Origins game beginning to Awakening and every DLC between and after.. The decisions made in both games (DAO, DAA) seemed very important in the world, and i hope we don't have to cannon over any decisions.

[Urrinor]

Zhijn wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Also looking at this.  I believe the idea here depends on whether you
import a save after US, but having not imported into future products. 
In that case the origins choices should be what your US warden did, and
the rest would be an orlesian warden we fill in the gaps for. 

Would it not be possible to have your origin warden/character do the sacrifice with a epilogue autosave.  And then move on to a new orlesian warden that keep the choices you did in origins with your dead warden?. Did that make any sens...

Or is that already the idea.. I dont know!. Been awhile since i played a orlesian warden. =d

Indeed, that would be great And would lead me to actually making an US char instead of just making him survive for the sake of continuity....

[Champion1]

Zhijn wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Also looking at this.  I believe the idea here depends on whether you
import a save after US, but having not imported into future products. 
In that case the origins choices should be what your US warden did, and
the rest would be an orlesian warden we fill in the gaps for. 

Would it not be possible to have your origin warden/character do the sacrifice with a epilogue autosave.  And then move on to a new orlesian warden that keep the choices you did in origins with your dead warden?. Did that make any sens...

Or is that already the idea.. I dont know!. Been awhile since i played a orlesian warden. =d

No.  Dead Warden with your saved Origins choices, or Orlesian Warden with BioWare's Origins choices.  Try to import a Dead Warden into Awakening and the death gets waved away and your character is magically alive again.  There is also no way to import just your choices, unless you're a PC gamer and really good at editing data-caches, which I'm not even going to touch and know nothing about.

Modifié par Champion1, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:25 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Fernando Melo wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Sweet, thanks. Will there be any kind of summary screen? "The Warden chose to destroy the Anvil and elected Harrowmont" or "The Warden romanced Leliana, but spurned her for Morrigan before performing the DA" sort of thing? I get paranoid my choices will get muddled in the conversion process, because I worry about things for no reason sometimes.

Part of what we're looking at. 

Awesome!  This would be a very cool feature.

Gah.  We really have to wait five months for the game to come out?   :crying:

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:39 .

[Brockololly]

Fernando Melo wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Sweet, thanks. Will there be any kind of summary screen? "The Warden chose to destroy the Anvil and elected Harrowmont" or "The Warden romanced Leliana, but spurned her for Morrigan before performing the DA" sort of thing? I get paranoid my choices will get muddled in the conversion process, because I worry about things for no reason sometimes.

Part of what we're looking at. 

On that line of thought too, would we be able to change anything from any such summary screen? It would hopefully avoid situations like playing through all of Witch Hunt only to get to the end and have schizophrenic Morrigan not recognizing the Dark Ritual and that sort of thing. Cause I'd hate to have some summary screen and see that a choice from Origins or Awakening was in there as incorrect and not be able to do anything about it.

Fernando Melo wrote...

JakePT wrote...
Fernando, do you know what the status is on cross-platform importing? Someone (maybe Priestly) said it would be possible, shortly after the announcement, but some sort of confirmation would be nice before I pre-order (I plan to change platform, if possible).

This is not possible due to console restrictions.  I would have to look again, but I'm guessing the "possibility" was maybe coming from misinterpreting something we said (like the fact that an import feature would exist on each platform, and maybe that was read as you could import from any platform to any platform - which is not the case)? 

I think this notion of cross-platform importing was started in the very first Game Informer article. Here is the quote:

"We're not getting into specific details, but the goal will be to make it so that even if you played the first game on the PC and the second game on console, we'd be able to react to your choices," reveals executive director Mark Darrah. "Now, we'll see what Microsoft and Sony have to say about that."

Fernando Melo wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Will the US ending import, without retconning the Warden alive?

Also looking at this.  I believe the idea here depends on whether you import a save after US, but having not imported into future products.   In that case the origins choices should be what your US warden did, and  the rest would be an orlesian warden we fill in the gaps for. 

So, if we had a Warden do the Ultimate Sacrifice in Origins and then started a new game in Awakening with an Orlesian, we'd have to sort of choose whether we wanted to import from Origins for the US warden's choices with a default Awakening playthrough? Or import an Orlesian from Awakening with a default Origins playthrough? No way to have the US Warden's world state combined with the actions of the Orlesian?

And out of curiosity, if someone only played Origins and imported from Origins, would default choices be given for the events of Awakening and Witch hunt or would it be as if the Warden had never done those stories?

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:41 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Brockololly wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Sweet, thanks. Will there be any kind of summary screen? "The Warden chose to destroy the Anvil and elected Harrowmont" or "The Warden romanced Leliana, but spurned her for Morrigan before performing the DA" sort of thing? I get paranoid my choices will get muddled in the conversion process, because I worry about things for no reason sometimes.

Part of what we're looking at. 

On that line of thought too, would we be able to change anything from any such summary screen? It would hopefully avoid situations like playing through all of Witch Hunt only to get to the end and have schizophrenic Morrigan not recognizing the Dark Ritual and that sort of thing. Cause I'd hate to have some summary screen and see that a choice from Origins or Awakening was in there as incorrect and not be able to do anything about it.

I like that idea.  I just brought my very last DAO character (a goody-goody Cousland) over to DAA and noticed that the codec says Isolde died to break the hold of the demon on Connor.... when I know for certain I took the Tower option to free the little guy.  Makes me a bit nervous about my other characters since I'm normally a codec scanner not a codec reader.

[Brockololly]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
I like that idea.  I just brought my very last DAO character (a goody-goody Cousland) over to DAA and noticed that the codec says Isolde died to break the hold of the demon on Connor.... when I know for certain I took the Tower option to free the little guy.  Makes me a bit nervous about my other characters since I'm normally a codec scanner not a codec reader.

Well, that Isolde being dead in the codex even if you saved the whole family is a bug thats been around since Origins came out- and Eamon acts as if you made the deal with the demon during the throne room epilogue no matter what. Its little stuff like that and how Witch Hunt's import was bungled, or how Morrigan's epilogue slide in Awakening was messed up, among other story bugs, that worries me about importing to DA2.

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
I like that idea.  I just brought my very last DAO character (a goody-goody Cousland) over to DAA and noticed that the codec says Isolde died to break the hold of the demon on Connor.... when I know for certain I took the Tower option to free the little guy.  Makes me a bit nervous about my other characters since I'm normally a codec scanner not a codec reader.

Well, that Isolde being dead in the codex even if you saved the whole family is a bug thats been around since Origins came out- and Eamon acts as if you made the deal with the demon during the throne room epilogue no matter what. Its little stuff like that and how Witch Hunt's import was bungled, or how Morrigan's epilogue slide in Awakening was messed up, among other story bugs, that worries me about importing to DA2.

Yeah, I'm very weary of the import process because my ultimate fear is to be really invested time-wise in DA2 only to find out some of my decisions were screwed up. And at that point, its either adjust dialogue from DAO and restart or just live with it. Considering that this save import is supposed to appeal to fans of the original, I'd hope they would handle it with more exactness than they did with Awakening and Witch Hunt.

[SirOccam]

Fernando Melo wrote...

JakePT wrote...

Fernando, do you know what the status is on cross-platform importing? Someone (maybe Priestly) said it would be possible, shortly after the announcement, but some sort of confirmation would be nice before I pre-order (I plan to change platform, if possible).

This is not possible due to console restrictions.  I would have to look again, but I'm guessing the "possibility" was maybe coming from misinterpreting something we said (like the fact that an import feature would exist on each platform, and maybe that was read as you could import from any platform to any platform - which is not the case)?

I believe this was initially reported in that first GameInformer print article that came out.

"'We're not getting into specific details, but the goal will be to make it so that even if you played the first game on the PC and the second game on console, we'd be able to react to your choices,' reveals executive director Mark Darrah. 'Now, we'll see what Microsoft and Sony have to say about that.'"

It always sounded like a bit of a pipe dream, so I never got my hopes up too high, but still kind of a bummer to hear that this is (apparently) a no-go. I was hoping I could convince my friend to switch from console to PC (but he's an achievement/gamerscore addict, alas).

[ydaraishy]

SirOccam wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

JakePT wrote...

Fernando, do you know what the status is on cross-platform importing? Someone (maybe Priestly) said it would be possible, shortly after the announcement, but some sort of confirmation would be nice before I pre-order (I plan to change platform, if possible).

This is not possible due to console restrictions.  I would have to look again, but I'm guessing the "possibility" was maybe coming from misinterpreting something we said (like the fact that an import feature would exist on each platform, and maybe that was read as you could import from any platform to any platform - which is not the case)?

I believe this was initially reported in that first GameInformer print article that came out.

"'We're not getting into specific details, but the goal will be to make it so that even if you played the first game on the PC and the second game on console, we'd be able to react to your choices,' reveals executive director Mark Darrah. 'Now, we'll see what Microsoft and Sony have to say about that.'"

It always sounded like a bit of a pipe dream, so I never got my hopes up too high, but still kind of a bummer to hear that this is (apparently) a no-go. I was hoping I could convince my friend to switch from console to PC (but he's an achievement/gamerscore addict, alas).

Our actions are stored on our online profile from DAO, so I always imagined it would be possible to do so from there...

[Fortlowe]

I wonder if there will be some kind of crossover between Hawkes party and The Warden's party. Like the Passing for Left for Dead and Left for Dead 2.  That would be an awesome save file feature.

[Dave of Canada]

Fortlowe wrote...

I wonder if there will be some kind of crossover between Hawkes party and The Warden's party. Like the Passing for Left for Dead and Left for Dead 2.  That would be an awesome save file feature.

Doubt it. Warden's party falls apart after the Blight ends with everybody going their respective routes while Hawke's party is in the Free Marches.

[SaddleTrampNC]

@ Selene and Fernando: Appreciate ya'll dropping in and providing the info. Even with most things still in the works, it's nice that you take the time to drop in.

[xiZverx]

Shinian2 wrote...

xiZverx wrote...

^ That's exactly what I have said. But that does not help me.
Does "arthur4" have all my decisions from all the previous content? Suppose you have imported a character from DAO-Arthur, instead of Leliana.

Are you catching my drift? Because all of these variable I believe only decisions from DAO will be imported into DA2.

You wouldnt import a Leliana save, of couorse. It's standalone.

Maybe your question was answered sufficiently by Fernando, but to be honest, I'm not catching your drift..

Your OP says you played multiple playthrough? I was a bit confused on what you meant. If you played origins as  Arthur, then imported Arthur into Awakening, and then from Awakening into Witch Hunt, then the Witch Hunt save *should* contain all your choics from all 3 modules.

However if you imported the origins Arthur into Witchhunt, then obviously Witch Hunt would not contain Awakening decisions at all.

Am I clarifying this or misunderstanding your question?

Well, as I have stated before, I haven't kept my original warden for all the storylines. I used Warden1 for DAO and related DLC, used Warden1 for DAA, but never finished, and for with hunt I used Warden2.

So, my best shot at keeping most of the choices would be to import the partly done DAA? (I do not plan on finishing DAA anytime soon, since it just doesn't really appeal to me)

Fernando Melo wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Sweet, thanks. Will there be any kind of summary screen? "The Warden chose to destroy the Anvil and elected Harrowmont" or "The Warden romanced Leliana, but spurned her for Morrigan before performing the DA" sort of thing? I get paranoid my choices will get muddled in the conversion process, because I worry about things for no reason sometimes.

Part of what we're looking at. 

I strongly doubt that you will ever include such a feature. Because implementing a summary screen would mean showing the player all the decisions that do infect the story. And since I understand your pains (limited time, limited budget) I know you aren't going to be able to include everything you plan to. (regarding the variables about the saves) Or if you will, it may be just a minor notion, like a codex entry etc.

Also, it would be bad because it would diminish the placebo effect of seeing effects of importing where there none exist. But I understand your marketing pain on this matter.

Still, I would like to say, that anyone you ask is going to assure you that he'd be happier to make sure that the things which do influence DA2 are done to his liking (summary screen?), and even if there are only 10.

[Nadia]

I think it would be awesome if at the beggining of DA2, after confirming that we have finished DAO we would be ask to participate in telling the history of Ferelden and blight, like choosing how which parts of it ended and who the warden was/is (completing sentences by choosing answers). This way we could try out different stories and see different results of our decisions. I'm bringing this up because some people may have lost their savegames for example and some are just very curious how world would differ

[KennyKwan]

Nadia wrote...

I think it would be awesome if at the beggining of DA2, after confirming that we have finished DAO we would be ask to participate in telling the history of Ferelden and blight, like choosing how which parts of it ended and who the warden was/is (completing sentences by choosing answers). This way we could try out different stories and see different results of our decisions. I'm bringing this up because some people may have lost their savegames for example and some are just very curious how world would differ

that would be me

I've to format my computer because my friend accept some virus e-mail.
If I can choose what happened would be awesome. I'm too lazy too replay the fade / Deep Road <_<

[kingjezza]

Thought I would ask here rather than start a new thread about saves.



With a character that has gone from Origins>Awakening>Gollums>Witch hunt am I right in thinking I just need to keep the Witch hunt save to import into DA2, that Character will have all my previous choices right back to Origins?

[SaddleTrampNC]

kingjezza wrote...

Thought I would ask here rather than start a new thread about saves.

With a character that has gone from Origins>Awakening>Gollums>Witch hunt am I right in thinking I just need to keep the Witch hunt save to import into DA2, that Character will have all my previous choices right back to Origins?

Yep!

[Dave of Canada]

I hope to god all the save choices are correct. I wouldn't want to find out a Conrad Verner 2.0 but with major decisions.

[elfdwarf]

don't see how shale would effect dragon age 2

Modifié par elfdwarf, 23 octobre 2010 - 02:00 .

[NKKKK]

Also looking at this. I believe the idea here depends on whether you
import a save after US, but having not imported into future products.
In that case the origins choices should be what your US warden did, and
the rest would be an orlesian warden we fill in the gaps for.

I read this and for some reason get pissed off

Modifié par NKKKK, 23 octobre 2010 - 01:43 .