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br003

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Is it time to uninstall this and wait for the new Crytptic game or even DAO2?  Sooo many mods and cd keys. would be a nightmare to reinstall. I really eould like to the that new NWN come to pass.

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With the texture and graphics upgrades this game has a heartbeat that is still ticking for me. I'm defintely keeping it installed. And that's without the toolset part.

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I don't think the new game from Atari will offer as much flexibility in multiplayer and content creation as NWN2 so I'm sticking to it...after a 3 years break I haven't found anything better and I doubt something will come anytime soon.

One day someone will realize the true potential of multiplayer mixed with custom contents and will become very rich :P The thing is even if you are tired to play creating stuff is still fun.

Modifié par Olblach, 18 octobre 2010 - 08:44 .


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There is no other game out or in the works that competes with the NWN games for me. They will stay on my computer for quite some time to come. I do hope something does come along eventually though.

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Only you can make that decision, br003. After you squeezed out every ounce of enjoyment you possibly can and feel the need to move on, go for it. I can't see myself putting aside the NWN games anytime soon. At this rate I can only see a similarly built game that does everything better usurping these two. I thought that was going to be DAO until BioWare dropped its multiplayer component during development. I'm staying right here until then.

Modifié par Seagloom, 18 octobre 2010 - 03:34 .


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Not I. I just started the OC again and there's a metric bunch of community-made modules I'd like to play. Until a true NWN3 (or reasonable facsimile thereof) comes along, I'm staying right here. I though DA might be it and tried hard to like it, but the simple system, lack of options and dearth of modder support (unless you wanted yet another remake of Morrigan's head) left me dissatisfied. I'll ride this old horse a bit further yet. Besides, I just got a video card that will let me run it with all the graphics maxed.

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Up to you, the community is not going anywhere, i can guarantee you that if you like games like NWN, NWN2 and the like we will be giving you ample reasons to reinstall over the next year.



You often need to uninstall or leave NWN2 and go play something else like the new NWNO or Dragon Age to really understand why its a great game. You might even want to reinstall NWN1 with everything peachykeen and the rest of that community has added to that game, as long as there is a community as active as the communities for NWN1 and NWN2 there will be ample reasons to reinstall for a long time to come.

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Yeah, playing the OC for the second time this time as a warlock with community bug fixes, spells, feats, classes. It is extremely rare for me to replay a module unless it's a PW. And, I still have White Plume Mountain to play, plus others and the new stuff coming out in the coming months. It's alive!

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If there is a new game (or more than one) coming out which you think might challenge NWN, I'd personally still wait until said game does come out and see what it's actually like. NWN Online for example, might be right up your street, but it's looking like it's going to be so far from the NWN series that it won't cater to the audience who love it so (i.e. us). It's normally a big mistake to assume something new will be better and go for it before you've actually seen first-hand. I don't normally uninstall things myself, anyway, but if I did, I'd wait until I hadn't played it for a while and didn't think I'd want to again for a while, either.

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I won't let go until I get something better. Period. So far, nothing's better. Not in terms of power, flexibility, creative potential and user created content.

Anything coming down the pipe so far doesn't yet have what it takes to unseat either NWN or NWN2 in my point of view.

Does this make me a fanboi?

Hardly. I never even finished the OC! I love to play in the toolset, though and Misery Stone, Dark Waters, Legacy of White Plume Mountain as well as Sands of Solvheil, Subtlety of Thay, the Red Prison, Nighthowls in Nestlehaven, plus all the bug fixes, improvments and Community additions over the years. This thing's the place to be for getting your Fantasy Adventure on, baby!

And the stuff I listed -- that's just the short list of off the top of my head ones I liked more than the OC so far.

(I got tired of playing the OC before I finished the 2nd Chapter. Just couldn't keep the interest level up. Haven't even tried MotB and played SoZ for about 4 hours to see what the OM was like.)



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Hmmm. certainly wouldn't want to miss out on anything. I guess I'll keep it till I'm really crunched for space. Thinking about KOTOR, cause maybe I need to leave it for a bit. Enh we'll see. thanks much.



"yet another remake of Morrigan's head" truer words were never spoken.

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I was just about to uninstall it when Tiberius209's Maimed God Saga came out. Probably my favourite NWN2 module to date.

I was left wanting more so I started the OC again. I had only done it once and after 4 years I'm having a decent amount of fun with it (though I sort of hit a wall during late Act 2 and lately I went back to NWN1 and Dragon Age). I also keep telling myself I should try and finish SoZ once and for all.

As far as Cryptic's NW goes, I get the feeling it won't be nearly as in-depth as the NWNs. I'm really not sold on that one, it sounds like a shallow action game that tries to capitalise on NWN's success.

Modifié par DarthMuffin, 18 octobre 2010 - 08:54 .


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When was the last time we saw a professional game developer not cut corners and not rely heavily on recycled gaming conventions?



The public is very non-discriminating. Children are a major set of customers. So, game companies are under little pressure to not reinvent the same flat tire.



Maybe The Witcher 2 will be a step forward.

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nicethugbert wrote...
When was the last time we saw a professional game developer not cut corners and not rely heavily on recycled gaming conventions?


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Sir Thugbert,



Everything D&D is recycled gaming convention. The secret is doing it right.



The public is quite discriminating and will not buy what it does not like. The fact that most gamers are adolescents is an unfortunate fact of life.



We have a unique resource in NWN2, and a community (including professional developers like Ossian) that can continue the legacy into the future. Support, support, support...



Witcher was so FPS that I couldn't play it (though I plan to try again). I hope Witcher 2 will be different and better. DA could have been "the answer" but Bioware chose to take a great story and water it down to the lowest common denominator ("I don't want to learn all those rules").



I'm not trying to pick a fight, just saying that for now NWN2 is the best there is, and that's pretty d***nd good. Perhaps there is a niche market for serious FRPGs that some brave company can exploit. If people can do it for WW1 combat flight simulators (Rise of Flight, Over Flanders Fields), anything is possible.

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yet another remake of Morrigan's head


How very, very true. There's an abundance of head and hair mods, love and nudity mods and little, if any, story mods. I predict that when DA2 comes out DAO will die a quick death and soon be forgotten. Even Civ V has been dumbed down, upsetting the regular gamers of the series. The same with Silent Hunter V.

The problem is that games are being dumbed down to cater for the casual gamers and consoles. The only game that isn't being dumbed down is Microsoft Flight Sim. But it's not a game, it's a simulation. It can't be dumbed down into an arcade game. There are thousands of addons available, both free and commercial. Addons, or mods, is what has kept the sim alive for 25 years. Similarly with NWN2.

Our only hope is that when the Atari dispute is settled we'll see some decent D&D games appear. If not we're forced into playing NWN2 forever. Either that or play Flight Sim, in which case you'll need a machine as powerful as a nuclear reactor to play it. A new version is to be introduced next year featuring DivX 11 graphics, and only on Win 7. No eye candy for us unless DAO modders update NWN2 at some stage.

  

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Every year it seems like the players come up with something new and fun so it is too hard to break away even if I try. I guess I like the vast D&D world with the D&D logo, which is something you can't find in many other games. D&D just has too much history and every other fantasy rpg is really only imitating it.

This is coming from someone who never really played the pen and paper versions.

Frankly, I'll be amazed if NWN or NWN2 ever fades.

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Heck, I'm just now switching over to NWN 2. Since the addition of the auto downloader and other improvements I think it's possible NWN 2 is finally just getting started at last.



I think NWN 2 is going to be THE place for this kind of building and online play for a looong time. The next Neverwinter game isn't aimed at us, it's another Diablo crowd pleaser. And 4th Edition hasn't really caught on, nor should it imo. So don't expect a 4th E game to eclipse it any time soon.



NWN 2 is overall an excellent game and game making program now that the bigger issues have been ironed out, my prediction is a glacially slow migration from NWN 1 to 2 in the coming years with new life for the game as a result.

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Sieben Elfriend wrote...

I'm not trying to pick a fight, just saying that for now NWN2 is the best there is, and that's pretty d***nd good. Perhaps there is a niche market for serious FRPGs that some brave company can exploit. If people can do it for WW1 combat flight simulators (Rise of Flight, Over Flanders Fields), anything is possible.


Or, Plants vs. Zombies.

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    Hi to all,

"yet another remake of Morrigan's head" truer words were never spoken.

    That remind me sooo good discussions in old NWN2 forums, when DAO was released, with those many fortune-tellers (anyone missing WebShaman? :)) that were predicting the dead of NWN (NWN2, specially) in few months, that DAO was going to drain all developers and, of course, have multiplayer option in a very short period of time, bla, bla, bla...

    And now, a year after, we see what happens and how, if you want to play multiplayer and develop something really NEW, the only option you have is this fantastic game, NWN2, where we still enjoy every day creating and sharing ^_^

   Nothing like the historical memory to have a good perspective and opinion about things,

   MachinSin

Modifié par MachinSin, 19 octobre 2010 - 07:30 .


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DAO is also a fantastic game and tool for modder. But it's more restricted than NWN2 and it has very little support to correct its issue while NWN2 got heavily corrected.

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Good lord no. A thousand times no.

That said, a little bit of interest in my MP campaign wouldn't hurt. 

Not all MP has to take place in a PW setting you know. ;)

Modifié par NWN DM, 20 octobre 2010 - 04:17 .


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br003

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...I do miss the realms.

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Cutlasskiwi

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I'm keeping my install. There are still a lot of great mods being made for the game :D

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I'm keeping it installed in the wain hope that somebody will make a full Pathfinder conversion..well a dude can hope can't he?