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Are Vanguards and Infiltrators the 'real' Special Forces of the ME universe?


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sinosleep

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I was in the signal corps, and we qualified with the m16 from 300 meters just like the infantry guys. The only difference as far as weapon qualifications goes is that infantrymen tend to qualify with MORE weapons, the tests themselves are identical though. Then once you get to your unit you are bound to qualify on other weapons as well and those qualifications will be the same as well.



The m16 though each and every soldier in the US army will qualify for since it's part of the first 8 weeks of basic training which is uniform regardless of specialization or unit.

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jolly_rog

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sinosleep wrote...

I was in the signal corps, and we qualified with the m16 from 300 meters just like the infantry guys. The only difference as far as weapon qualifications goes is that infantrymen tend to qualify with MORE weapons, the tests themselves are identical though. Then once you get to your unit you are bound to qualify on other weapons as well and those qualifications will be the same as well.

The m16 though each and every soldier in the US army will qualify for since it's part of the first 8 weeks of basic training which is uniform regardless of specialization or unit.

I can attest to that.  Where I'm from (a certain South East Asian city state which still has conscription), everyone in the military has to re-qualify annually on an assault rifle regardless of their vocation or branch of service.  

Those in the Infantry and combat arms would have additional qualification on any weapon their unit uses (SAW, GPMG, LAW, etc...).  Since I was a combat engineer, the weapons I had to qualify on were the M16, M203 and SAW.
Live firing was always fun but picking up empty cartridges, not so much.-_-

Modifié par jolly_rog, 22 octobre 2010 - 05:32 .


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Fiery Phoenix

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As far as I'm concerned, Infiltrator > Vanguard any day of the week. This is as far as ME2 goes, though, since I never bothered playing any class other than Adept and Soldier in ME1.

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sinosleep wrote...

I was in the signal corps, and we qualified with the m16 from 300 meters just like the infantry guys. The only difference as far as weapon qualifications goes is that infantrymen tend to qualify with MORE weapons, the tests themselves are identical though. Then once you get to your unit you are bound to qualify on other weapons as well and those qualifications will be the same as well.

The m16 though each and every soldier in the US army will qualify for since it's part of the first 8 weeks of basic training which is uniform regardless of specialization or unit.


Thanks for straightening that out, it must have been a biased opinion that I got, I haven't served so no first hand on my part,

once a marine always a marine...

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Lord_Caledore

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JaegerBane wrote...

The only thing I'd disagree with is the soldier - I think they're closer to a decorated commando, along the lines of a SEAL/SAS operator. IIRC in the class description, it's mentioned that their 'ocular processor' (i.e. AR) isn't standard issue and hence, not something you'd expect to see on a basic grunt.


I always thought this, too. Soldiers don't seem like bog-standard infantry to me. Besides just the non-standard issue ocular processor, they're extremely skilled with a wide variety of guns. I know a standard infantryman certainly can know how to use multiple weapons, but the ME2 Soldier is an expert in them all.

I know Ashley and Jenkins were technically Soldiers in ME1, but the ME2 soldier is a different beast since they're skilled with all of the weapons from the start.

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Seival wrote...

The most fun was final battle when sovereign-controlled Saren just walked around doing nothing and only catching shots from your weapons.


Vanguards can do it, too...just keep it flying with Lift and feeding him with bullets 'till it collapses. Easiest fight I've ever had.

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FuturePasTimeCE

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your squad can compensate and compliment your abilities too...

if you are a soldier use people who are good at biotics, and engineering

if you are a biotic, use people who are great soldiers or sentinels...

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 23 octobre 2010 - 09:48 .


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I feel like the soldier and infiltrator are like the airborne, the sentinel and vanguard are like the SEALS, and adept and engineer are like combat support engineers.

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Infiltrators are Sniper/Recon you send two of them deep behind enemy lines to do some reconnaissance or to take out a HVT.



Soilders are most like the US Army Rangers.



I really don't know about the rest...