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[Aedan_Cousland]

...not which squadmates you want to return, but who you think Bioware will bring back. as full fledged members of your squad.


I know some people want every possible squadmate we've had so far to return, but I don't think that is likely. I think we'll have a mostly new squad with a handful of old squadmates returning. They aren't going to spend a lot of time and resources making unique dialogue for hordes of characters that may have been killed in the first or second games. Instead I think it is more likely that only a handful of the old squaddies will return.

From the first game my money is first and foremost on the Virmire survivor. I think either Ashley or Kaiden will be returning to the squad, as either one could have been a LI in the first game, and there needs to be some resolution over what happened on Horizon. I also think Liara will return but that she will be the last squadmate recruited. She'll play a TIM role for much of the game and join you directly before the end run.

From the second game I'd bet on Legion, just because as a Geth he's too interesting to leave out, and he could potentially play a large role in the plot with the True Geth. Even if he 'died' in your game Bioware could bring him back by saying that he was able to upload himself to a Geth server before his original body (aka platform) was destroyed.

Beyond that I don't expect to see any of the other previous squadmates return as members of your squad, including Garrus and Tali. As much as I'd love to see Garrus return I don't believe he will, and think Wrex would return before Garrus would.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 18 octobre 2010 - 06:29 .

[Shadow_broker]

Most likley returns are

VS

Liara

Legion

Miranda

Tali

[Shepard Lives]

Virmire Survivor

Legion

Liara

Miranda, maybe

Tali (torches and pitchforks will pave her way to ME3, unfortunately)

And hopefully Wrex.

[Raizo]

Ashley/Kaiden

Liara

Miranda

Jacob

Garrus

Tali

Modifié par Raizo, 18 octobre 2010 - 06:38 .

[AntiChri5]

Why would BioWare spend resources on conceptualising, writing, modeling, casting, desinging and creating a bunch of new squadmates when we just spent an entire game recruiting the most powerful individuals in the galaxy and ensuring their loyalty.

[Aedan_Cousland]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Why would BioWare spend resources on conceptualising, writing, modeling, casting, desinging and creating a bunch of new squadmates when we just spent an entire game recruiting the most powerful individuals in the galaxy and ensuring their loyalty.

Because they like to create new and interesting characters.

Because it would follow the same pattern established by ME2.

And because if your squad were filled only with characters from previous games, some people may only have the Virmire survivor, Liara, and Legion, and he would only return for some players if he is brought back from the dead. Those players wouldn't have enough people to fill out their squad without new characters. So you can bet that there will be new NPC squadmates.

You spent an entire game recruiting characters for a suicide mission. Sure, it is possible to get everyone through unscathed. I did it on my first and canon playthrough. But a lot of players didn't, and some lost every squadmate from ME2.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 18 octobre 2010 - 06:49 .

[Sviken]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Why would BioWare spend resources on conceptualising, writing, modeling, casting, desinging and creating a bunch of new squadmates when we just spent an entire game recruiting the most powerful individuals in the galaxy and ensuring their loyalty.

This.

[-Skorpious-]

I''ll reserve my judgment on the VS until their DLC is released, otherwise my choices will have to be -



Garrus: Not only is Garrus available in both games, but he is also a fan-favorite on sites other than this very forum. Plus, Garrus isn't potentially important to the plot; how can he help Shepard fight the reapers? Calibrate the Normandy's guns the whole game? Go vigilante on them?



Tali: Tali is potentially important to the plot (her obvious connection with her people) but she can also be exiled in-game. Other than the reason above, she shares similar points with Garrus.



Miranda + Jacob: Both of them pledge their loyalty to Shepard regardless of the outcome of the suicide mission. It also helps that the organization they are affiliated with receives practically zero recognition/acceptance from the galactic community.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

They're in a pretty tough spot because practically all of your squad can be killed in the suicide mission.



Virmire survivor seems like the surest bet of returning as a squad member.



Wrex, Tali, and Liara are part of their own faction/group now... so it's possible they'll fight with you in that manner over personally joining your squad.



Like a gang of Krogan led by Wrex will attack a group or something (even though he himself won't be on your squad).

[Shepard Lives]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Why would BioWare spend resources on conceptualising, writing, modeling, casting, desinging and creating a bunch of new squadmates when we just spent an entire game recruiting the most powerful individuals in the galaxy and ensuring their loyalty.

That's exactly what I think, but apparently most people are certain that since they can die then they won't even be mentioned in ME3.

Frankly, I think that's a load bull.
You squad amounts to at least ten people, up to twelve. Now, unless you actively try to get them slaughtered, how many of them can you lose in the mission? I'd say four, five, six at most. That leaves you with a good half of your squad intact. Add in the returning Ash/Kai and Liara (not to mention Wrex and maybe a couple new members) and there's plenty to go around. :wizard: Also, this would send the replay value through the roof, since you'll want to import saves with different surviving squaddies to check out the ME3 content for each of them.
And if you finish ME2 with only two or three surviving companions, you're a bad leader (or killed them on purpose) and you deserve a small team for ME3. Simple.

Damn, I should totally make a thread about this.

Modifié par shepard_lives, 18 octobre 2010 - 06:53 .

[Aedan_Cousland]

That's exactly what I think, but apparently most people are certain that since they can die then they won't even be mentioned in ME3.

I think all surviving squadmates from ME1 and ME2 return, but some will return in roles similar to the ones the Virmire survivor, Liara, and Wrex played in ME2. You'll run into them on your travels and they may give you missions, but they won't be part of your crew on the Normandy.

[AntiChri5]

Because they like to create new and interesting characters.

Characters do not have to be squadmates.

Because it would follow the same pattern established by ME2.

You mean twenty missions based around recruiting and pleasing characters and three in which you fight against the supposed main foe?

And because if your squad were filled only with characters from previous games, some people may only have the Virmire survivor, Liara, and Legion, and he would only return for some players if he is brought back from the dead. Those players wouldn't have enough people to fill out their squad without new characters. So you can bet that there will be new NPC squadmates.

Legions survival is not guaranteed. His death speach mentions he cannot find a com buoy to transmit. You are also forgetting that in order to import you need two squadmates to survive, bringing the total number up.

Remember that ME 1 only had six squadmates and ME 2 doubled that. I did not say there would be no new squaddies, just few.

You spent an entire game recruiting characters for a suicide mission. Sure, it is possible to get everyone through unscathed. I did it on my first and canon playthrough. But a lot of players didn't, and some lost every squadmate from ME2.

It is not simply possible, but almost inevitable to have more then 50% survival rate. The only people who lost a significant amount did so on purpose.

[Frybread76]

Because all but two squad mates can die in the SM (and those two can be any one of them), along with the fact that not everyone has Zaeed, Kasumi and Legion downloaded, I bet we will have the option of having an entirely new squad in ME3.



Along with the new squad, Liara, Wrex (if he survived ME1), and Kaidan/Ashley will make appearances in ME3.

[Frybread76]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

That's exactly what I think, but apparently most people are certain that since they can die then they won't even be mentioned in ME3.

I think all surviving squadmates from ME1 and ME2 return, but some will return in roles similar to the ones the Virmire survivor, Liara, and Wrex played in ME2. You'll run into them on your travels and they may give you missions, but they won't be part of your crew on the Normandy.

Also, they could be like Liara in LotSB, in which she joined your squad temporarily.

[Dean_the_Young]

I'd be fine with sticking with the ME2 squad (minus Thane) plus the Virmire Survivor. If you lost people on the mission, you have fewer characters, and have to deal.



Wrex and Liara have (character) irreplacable roles in their current states, and really should stay away.

[-Skorpious-]

Frybread76 wrote...

Because all but two squad mates can die in the SM (and those two can be any one of them), along with the fact that not everyone has Zaeed, Kasumi and Legion downloaded, I bet we will have the option of having an entirely new squad in ME3.

Along with the new squad, Liara, Wrex (if he survived ME1), and Kaidan/Ashley will make appearances in ME3.

True, but Bioware can't just ignore an entire game. We spent 30+ hours recruiting and helping the crew of ME2 - to allocate them all to a mere 5 minute "cameo" would mean that ME2 was huge waste of Shepard's (not to mention our) time.

Shepard already has the best in the galaxy, why does he need to spend more time recruiting anyone else?

[Frybread76]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Frybread76 wrote...

Because all but two squad mates can die in the SM (and those two can be any one of them), along with the fact that not everyone has Zaeed, Kasumi and Legion downloaded, I bet we will have the option of having an entirely new squad in ME3.

Along with the new squad, Liara, Wrex (if he survived ME1), and Kaidan/Ashley will make appearances in ME3.

True, but Bioware can't just ignore an entire game. We spent 30+ hours recruiting and helping the crew of ME2 - to allocate them all to a mere 5 minute "cameo" would mean that ME2 was huge waste of Shepard's (not to mention our) time.

Shepard already has the best in the galaxy, why does he need to spend more time recruiting anyone else?

I agree, which is why I also agree with someone else who said Bioware has a big challenge ahead of it in doing this whole transfer thing right.

Really, though, I hope Bioware reduces the number of squad mates you have from a max of 12, which was too many, IMO.

In ME1, we had 6 squad mates.  Maybe they will reduce it to 6 or 8 in ME3?  All we need are Adept, Vanguard, Engineer, Infiltrator, Sentinel and Soldier squad mates.

Edited to add that I think recruiting new squad mates in ME3 will be optional but neccessary for people who transfer only two squad mates from ME2.

Modifié par Frybread76, 18 octobre 2010 - 07:19 .

[TheBlackBaron]

-Skorpious- wrote..
True, but Bioware can't just ignore an entire game. We spent 30+ hours recruiting and helping the crew of ME2 - to allocate them all to a mere 5 minute "cameo" would mean that ME2 was huge waste of Shepard's (not to mention our) time.

Shepard already has the best in the galaxy, why does he need to spend more time recruiting anyone else?

This.

You want your choices to have consequences? This would be a good way to start. If somebody died on the suicide mission, that's one less person you have to fight the Reapers with.

Tali and Garrus already survived one game transition mainly on torches and pitchforks (and I'm all the happier for it), the same will carry them into ME3. The whole purpose of leaving Ashley/Kaidan out of the ME2 crew was to ensure they don't suffer from critical existence failure, so they'll be back as well. Previously I was also certain Liara would be in the crew, but LotSB casts some doubt on that - she may instead play the role of a major supporting charater, being heavily involved in the plot but not as a squadmate.

Miranda and Jacob are with Shepard whether or not he sticks with Cerberus, Legion's got a mancrush on Shepard, and Grunt has chosen Shepard as his battlemaster.

The rest of the crew are somewhat iffy (most notably Thane - supposedly he's only got several months left), but I'm sure BioWare can think of reasons for them to stay on.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 18 octobre 2010 - 07:28 .

[-Skorpious-]

Exactly. Bioware has a momentousness task ahead of them that will not only decide the reputation of the Mass Effect series, but rather their current reputation as a gaming company (heavy emphasis on "current").

[Zulu_DFA]

as full fledged members of your squad

Liara - 99%

VS - 55%

Legion - 40%

Others - LotSB-like "playable cameos" (still playable with a stunt-double or a regular ME3 squadmate) or Zaeed-like (minus the loyalty mission, naturally) DL-squadmates at most.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 18 octobre 2010 - 07:30 .

[Zhijn]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Frybread76 wrote...

Because all but two squad mates can die in the SM (and those two can be any one of them), along with the fact that not everyone has Zaeed, Kasumi and Legion downloaded, I bet we will have the option of having an entirely new squad in ME3.

Along with the new squad, Liara, Wrex (if he survived ME1), and Kaidan/Ashley will make appearances in ME3.

True, but Bioware can't just ignore an entire game. We spent 30+ hours recruiting and helping the crew of ME2 - to allocate them all to a mere 5 minute "cameo" would mean that ME2 was huge waste of Shepard's (not to mention our) time.

Shepard already has the best in the galaxy, why does he need to spend more time recruiting anyone else?

ME1's great story setup was pretty much ignored in ME2 along with some great characters who just got a camo appearance. They already said each game is a standalone game, so dont be suprised if Shepard once again stand alone and have to go recruit a team mix of old and new again.

They just need a new excuse to reboot it again while sticking to the main story about reapers. Maybe he goes to jail for working with a terror group. Who knows!.

[Shepard Lives]

Zhijn wrote...

They already said each game is a standalone game

They did?

[Talogrungi]

All of 'em, unless you import a game where some didn't survive the SM.

It's kinda foreshadowed by the fact that a viable ME2-ME3 import requires at least 2 surviving squadmates and Shepard; i.e. enough squadmates to field a full team. I expect the virmire survivor to make an appearance as well. Liara may or may not rejoin the squad given the events of LotSB.

I do expect some of the ME2 squadmates to leave in ME3 (assuming they survived the SM, of course) as well as a few new squadmates that aren't "recruited", but are thrown together with Shepard as the story progresses.

I think the leavers will be Samara/Morinth, Zaeed, and Kasumi. Depending on the timeframe, Mordin (already old by Salarian standards) and Thane (dying) might also go.

I think the new recruits will be Aria and Captain Bailey based on their respective voice artists. Aria could "lose" Omega; we already know of several plots against her. Capt. Bailey could be kicked out of C-Sec for insubordination, protocol violations or similar. An Asari commando and a grizzled badass would fill a couple of the voids left by the above leavers.

That's my take on it. Could be completely wrong, of course.

[Alexander TM]

Tali - 100%

[kazaam_shaq]

If I have to recruit entirely new members in ME3, than I'm hoping it's more like ME1 (gets it all out of the way at the beginning of the game) so I can get to some reaper killin'. Also, and I'm probably in the minority here, but I wouldn't mind cameo like appearances (as long as their integration into the plot is somewhat meaningful). Cameos seem like the most feasible way to get suicide mission survivors into the third game.