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[hamtyl07]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Given both the marketing and the storyline implications, I can't see Bioware leaving out Tali or Garrus. It's likely that Liara will play a role, but quite possibly not as a team-mate through most of the mission. Depending on how the game is constructed, Legion could easily be back. Kaiden/Ashley will be back simply to prevent their fans from spontaneously combusting.

i dont know what i would do without  garrus no one else on that da*n ship has such a man-crush on shepard thats just something i find entertaining thorughout the entire me series so far

[mosor]

I'd say legion is a safe bet.



If he survives, great.

If he dies-true geth send a new platform

If he is sent to Cerberus- He escapes, and him being the last platform of his kind, since all other geth are heretics.

[Killjoy Cutter]

[quote]jbblue05 wrote...

[quote]-Skorpious- wrote...

Or they could apoligize to the VS, Wrex, and Liara fans and give them large roles in ME3, while at the same time bringing Garrus and Tali back as joinable squadmates but at the expense of plot importance? You know, so all groups are satisffied rather than one?
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Their was no fairness in ME2 so why be fair in ME3.  Garrus has no importance  or relevance to the ME plot.  Tali was only useful for her evidence against Saren.  Tali has no political influence on the Flotilla. She's just a soldier.
I'm just saying Liara fans had to wait 8 months to continue their romance.  Virmire survivor  and Wrex fans are still waiting. 
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Understandable, but Garrus' mother is a Turian and would probably approve of Garrus' decision to save the entire galaxy. Just sayin'.
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Garrus joins Shepard and Cerberus because he has nothing better to do.  But Garrus can't go see his dying mother.  With the Reapers coming the Turians might draft Garrus into the army and it would probably make his mom sad if he wasn't helping his people and running off on a Cerberus ship.

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yes two N7 marines would be unstoppable
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Maybe unless I can beat the crap out of Anderson first

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1)  I find this whole ongoing "importance to plot" thing bizarre and tiresome.
2)  Tali... just a soldier... no influence... um, OK?   There seem to be plenty of Quarians who think very highly of her, given the comments you hear in the background as you walk through the passages of the ship during her LM, and how the captain treats her, and Kal'Reagar's opinion of her, and...

[-Skorpious-]

jbblue05 wrote...

Their was no fairness in ME2 so why be fair in ME3.  Garrus has no importance  or relevance to the ME plot.  Tali was only useful for her evidence against Saren.  Tali has no political influence on the Flotilla. She's just a soldier.
I'm just saying Liara fans had to wait 8 months to continue their romance.  Virmire survivor  and Wrex fans are still waiting.

So your stance on the matter is - "Bioware was mean to Wrex, screw Garrus and Tali's fanbases!". That seems incredibly immature in my opinion.

jjblue05 wrote...

Garrus joins Shepard and Cerberus because he has nothing better to do.  But Garrus can't go see his dying mother.  With the Reapers coming the Turians might draft Garrus into the army and it would probably make his mom sad if he wasn't helping his people and running off on a Cerberus ship.

Garrus joins Shepard because Shepard is the only one who is actually taking the reaper threat seriously. Besides, not only did Garrus already serve the required millitary service of his people, he is a vigilante.

[jbblue05]

-Skorpious- wrote...
So your stance on the matter is - "Bioware was mean to Wrex, screw Garrus and Tali's fanbases!". That seems incredibly immature in my opinion.

Wow you're clueless
Tali and Garrus lives don't revolve around Shepard. its patheic that they will follow Shepard no matter what else is going on in their lives.

Garrus joins Shepard because Shepard is the only one who is actually taking the reaper threat seriously. Besides, not only did Garrus already serve the required millitary service of his people, he is a vigilante.

no he joins Shepard because he has nothing better to do.
As I recall he was killing mercs for fun not fighting the Reapers

[Aedan_Cousland]

If Garrus doesn't return as a squadmate (which is likely, IMO), I'd like to see him return as a Spectre. He's out there fighting the Reapers and their servants as well, and on one of the story missions your paths cross with Garrus playing a Captain Kirrahe role, with a squad of Turian soldiers in tow. He's not part of the squad but part of the action.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 18 octobre 2010 - 11:11 .

[jbblue05]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


1)  I find this whole ongoing "importance to plot" thing bizarre and tiresome.
2)  Tali... just a soldier... no influence... um, OK?   There seem to be plenty of Quarians who think very highly of her, given the comments you hear in the background as you walk through the passages of the ship during her LM, and how the captain treats her, and Kal'Reagar's opinion of her, and...

1) it just means their expendable

2) So 6 or 7 Quarians represent 17 million quarians

They show Tali respect because of her father if Tali wasn't the daughter of an admiral she would just be another grunt.

The people who tell her she should be admiral are her friends,

Tali has no pull her father ignored her
Shala Raan is a go with the flow admiral
Han Gerrel just wants war
Quib-Quib is a geth apologiist
Dano Xen doesn't care for Tali and wants to do her experiments

Tali is respected by the Quarian people but she doesn't control the course of the Flotilla

[-Skorpious-]

jbblue05 wrote...Wow you're clueless
Tali and Garrus lives don't revolve around Shepard. its patheic that they will follow Shepard no matter what else is going on in their lives.

So Tali and Garrus are pathetic for helping Shepard destroy an entire army of machines hell-bent on harvesting all organic life in the galaxy? Nah, Tali has a manicure appointment to keep.

jjblue05 wrote...

no he joins Shepard because he has nothing better to do.
As I recall he was killing mercs for fun not fighting the Reapers

Again, read the above statement. And about the merc thing - Garrus has no sway in the Turian Hierarchy; what could he possibly say to get them to take the reaper threat seriously?

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 18 octobre 2010 - 11:25 .

[jbblue05]

-Skorpious- wrote...

So Tali and Garrus are pathetic for helping Shepard destroy an entire army of machines hell-bent on harvesting all organic life in the galaxy? Nah, Tali has a manicure appointment to keep.

Its patheic for Tali to stay on Shepard's squad when the Quarians are near war with the Geth and are in political choas. If her people are so important to her why would she ignore them and run off with a human captain to save human colonists.

Garrus is a rebel I admit.  It made no sense for Garrus to quit his job at C-sec and go on a wild-goose chase with a human captain to track down a turian spectre and it made no sense for Shepard to recruit Garrus in ME1
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Again, read the above statement. And about the merc thing - Garrus has no sway in the Turian Hierarchy; what could he possibly say to get them to take the reaper threat seriously?

Of course Garrus doesn't have sway with the Heiarchy.
Garrus could've started a group called "the anti-reaper alliance"
But he gave up and killed mercs for the lulz

[-Skorpious-]

jbblue05 wrote...
Its patheic for Tali to stay on Shepard's squad when the Quarians are near war with the Geth and are in political choas. If her people are so important to her why would she ignore them and run off with a human captain to save human colonists.

Garrus is a rebel I admit.  It made no sense for Garrus to quit his job at C-sec and go on a wild-goose chase with a human captain to track down a turian spectre and it made no sense for Shepard to recruit Garrus in ME1

Tali was smart enough to see the true threat - the reapers. If the Quarian's are too busy organizing a war they cannot win, there is nothing she can do. For the most part, Tali is ensuring the safety of her people by fighting the reapers.

And Garrus didn't quit his job because of Saren - he quit because he felt C-sec's abundance of red tape was interfering with his definition of an ideal law-keeper. Was Garrus right? Debatable, but like Wrex, Garrus wanted to fight for an ideal higher than himself - justice.

jjblue05 wrote...

Of course Garrus doesn't have sway with the Heiarchy.
Garrus could've started a group called "the anti-reaper alliance"
But he gave up and killed mercs for the lulz

Do you honestly think that group would have went anywhere?

[jbblue05]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Tali was smart enough to see the true threat - the reapers. If the Quarian's are too busy organizing a war they cannot win, there is nothing she can do. For the most part, Tali is ensuring the safety of her people by fighting the reapers.

And Garrus didn't quit his job because of Saren - he quit because he felt C-sec's abundance of red tape was interfering with his definition of an ideal law-keeper. Was Garrus right? Debatable, but like Wrex, Garrus wanted to fight for an ideal higher than himself - justice.

No Tali joined Shepard to stop the abduction of human colonists.  Shepard specifically  told her he was recruiting her for a specific mission.  Your forgetting Tali is suppose to deeply care about her people but blowing off the Quarians for human colonists makes no sense for Tali.

Again Shepard has no reason to recruit Garrus and Garrus is patheic to quit his job to run off with a human captain

Do you honestly think that group would have went anywhere?

Exactly

[-Skorpious-]

This is going to be my last post. It's obvious neither of us can be swayed by the other. If you feel you need to reply, send me a PM; our arguing has nearly derailed this thread.

jbblue05 wrote...

No Tali joined Shepard to stop the abduction of human colonists.  Shepard specifically  told her he was recruiting her for a specific mission.  Your forgetting Tali is suppose to deeply care about her people but blowing off the Quarians for human colonists makes no sense for Tali.

Even if Tali did not know about the potential involvement of the reapers, she did continue to send Geth parts to her father with intentions of helping the Migrant Fleet.

jbblue05 wrote...

Again Shepard has no reason to recruit Garrus and Garrus is patheic to quit his job to run off with a human captain

Garrus knew, as an individual, that his work with C-sec was the equivalent of beating a dead horse. Garrus' desire to be a spectre stems from his strong belief in "the spirit of justice" opposed to blindly following every law and regulation in the handbook (aka his father). He knew he did not belong at C-sec, and rather than stay in a job he felt was flawed and broken, Garrus decided that he could accomplish more by working alongside Shepard.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 19 octobre 2010 - 12:36 .

[ShadyKat]

Garrus

Tali

Ash/Kaiden

Liara

Wrex

Mordin

...That's all of the cast from the first 2 games I would like to return. Could really care less about the others.

[La Coka Slaughterhouse]

I hope there is an option to kill the VS in the DLC, so I don't have to deal with them in ME 3. Give me Leng as a possible squad mate and team him up with Jack, and have Liara giving me the info I need to defeat the reapers and I'll be good to go. Don't really need anyone else.

[kraidy1117]

La Coka Slaughterhouse wrote...

I hope there is an option to kill the VS in the DLC, so I don't have to deal with them in ME 3. Give me Leng as a possible squad mate and team him up with Jack, and have Liara giving me the info I need to defeat the reapers and I'll be good to go. Don't really need anyone else.

/facepalm

Ash/Kaidan where left out of mE2 because they are important in ME3. Ift he DLC does happen, you won't be able to kill them. Good luck trying to defeat the Reapers with three people.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:30 .

[La Coka Slaughterhouse]

kraidy1117 wrote...

La Coka Slaughterhouse wrote...

I hope there is an option to kill the VS in the DLC, so I don't have to deal with them in ME 3. Give me Leng as a possible squad mate and team him up with Jack, and have Liara giving me the info I need to defeat the reapers and I'll be good to go. Don't really need anyone else.

/facepalm

Ash/Kaidan where left out of mE2 because they are important in ME3. Ift he DLC does happen, you won't be able to kill them. Good luck trying to defeat the Reapers with three people.

They might have just been left out of Mass Effect 2 because they had important alliance business like they said when you met them on Horizon.

But if I'm forced to take the VS with me on my mission, I'll kill them the first chance I have and the rest of the time they'd just be rotting on my ship.

IMO you should have the choice of everyone you want on your mission, I didn't want Garrus but I had to wait until the SM to kill him off.

Kind of why I like the SM, everyone in ME2 I dislike is now dead and I won't be seeing them in ME3, not even for a cameo.

[Taritu]

Lot of stupid here. For example, Tali says people are considering her as a new admiral. "no pull". yeah, right. Or use the "incite the crowd" option and see what happens.

[Lunatic LK47]

Taritu wrote...

Lot of stupid here. For example, Tali says people are considering her as a new admiral. "no pull". yeah, right. Or use the "incite the crowd" option and see what happens.

Uh, if Tali couldn't handle three idiot Quarian marines on Freedom's Progress, how the hell is she going to be a political leader?

[Geowil]

I hope that all of them return.  Obviously Thane is going to probably die between ME2 and 3, so I can say with some certainty that he won't be in ME3.

But yeah, I see no reason for not having everyone back..By the way I doubt Liara comes back as she is now the new Shadow Broker, there is no way she could join the team and also deal with that at the same time.  Maybe she finds a replacement though?

[Saberchic]

I think we won't see: Zaeed, Kasumi, Jack, Miranda, Samara, or Morinth. These peeps have either been hired or have other things to do and have said that they were going to bail after the mission was done. And Miranda... I can't remember if she stayed loyal to Cerberus or not, but she was such a loyalist and Cerberus knows where her sister is, so I can't see her staying with Shep.

We might see in our squad but I'm not sure: Thane (depending on the time frame between ME2 and ME3). If the timeline allows it, I think Thane will serve the remainder of his days with Shep... unless he spends them with Kolyat.....

Who I think will stay with Shep if they survived: Legion, Garrus, Jacob, Mordin (I don't care if he's considered old!!!), and Grunt. Oh, and Tali.

Not returning as squaddies but may be in the game: Wrex (if alive), Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. I think Liara's new role will keep her pretty occupied. I think she best serves Shep as an information getter. As for the Kaidan and Ashley, I think BW will have their story be as side quests in the main game. (Although I'm hoping in my heart of hearts that the VS, if you stayed true, will be able to join your squad...)

edited because I forgot about Tali. LOL

Modifié par Saberchic, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:23 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Darth Revan.



Wait, you meant past Bioware games right?

[vkt62]

They could do something like the second one where they go their separate ways except for a couple from ME2. Liara and Wrex are taken. Ashley/Kaiden might end up in a critical position in the Alliance.

Thane kicks his bucket.

The chances of Samara, Zaeed and Kasumi leaving are pretty high.

Tali could go back to the migrant fleet to garner support and Legion could go back to the Geth for the same purpose.

Not sure about Grunt but think he will go back to the Krogan to start the breading the perfect Krogans.

Not sure about Jack (Could challenge Aria and after winning give up the support of Omega) and Jacob.

Miranda (Could take of over Cerberus and pledge its support), Mordin (Can't think of any alternatives) and Garrus (Help get the turian support) might stay unless they have other things planned for them.

If Bioware is planning on having the representatives of different fleets/species/regions/empires as your team mates, then we could get Tali, Ashley, Garrius, Mordin, Grunt/Wrex, Liara, Samara (Since liara might not have enough influence with the Asari due to her age).

[Joshua Regalado]

Most likely squadmates to return are: Virmire survivor, Miranda, Garrus, Legion, Tali, Jacob, Grunt and Mordin.

[pf17456]

I think if Bioware creates a rerun of ME2 spending much of the game recruting new characters then it will be a fail.



Considering the gravity of the Reaper threat why would any surviving squadmate leave unless it's because of some crucial mission related to defeating the Reapers ?



If Bioware offers new squadmates to replace those who may have died on the SM then Bioware is simply rewarding failure.



Personally I'd like to see the existing characters develop beyond the level they were at in ME1 or 2

because Bioware has demonstrated in LotSB that they're up to the task.

[Therion942]

Who knows? Bioware already pulled a Kansas City shuffle with ME2, maybe they'll pull another for ME3.



What I want is for the entire team to come back, new players be damned, so at least ME2 was worth a little more than it already is.

What will happen? Oh you don't want me to dream up nightmare scenarios for what corporate evil could happen to ME3.