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#76
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Ash

Liara.....



Seriously thats all i can think of. As stated by Bioware, each game will be standalone, why would they write character lines for squadmates who could potentially be dead at the end of ME2? They won't, they'll give them all minor cameos and make us recruit more squadmates, all in the name of "Standalone game" (For the retards who go out and play the last game in a godamn trilogy, where the franchise is well-known for its importable character and choices)

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Why do so many think Jacob will return?

He's the least liked squadmate across both games.

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GodWood wrote...

Why do so many think Jacob will return?
He's the least liked squadmate across both games.

All the more reason for him to return.

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I suspect for the very Final mission at the end of ME3 against the Reapers themselves, EVERYONE whos alive at that point will join shepard in the final battle, I mean what choice does everyone have at that point, lol, fight or die.



As for the main game itself, I reckon we'll get a few old squadmates back, like we did in ME2.

Would not be surprised if Liara basically takes a simular Position to what Miranda and Jacob had in ME2.

Also Feron was an information broker himself, he could take over Liara's spot.

And Ash and kaidan, I suspect they'll be back too (the one that survived that is, :P).

Wrex is a hard one, as he shares the same fate as the ME2 crew, but hes also very popular, so see what happens there.

About the ME2 crew, I got no clue honestly, I don't envy Bioware in the situlation they've created there, lol.

As for new ME3 crew, I wanna see more aliens and less humans, having 5 humans in ME2 was not good, like another Geth would be good, another asari, maybe a female salarian, turian or drell this time, Maybe a Batarian finally or a Vorcha, lol, Or even new Aliens we have'nt seen yet.



I also suspect ME3 will be like dragon age origins, unite the galaxy, and build up forces to defeat the reapers, which means we'll prolly get new crew joining up much the same way as ME1 and dragon age.

but until we actually see more info on ME3, this is all theory, lol.

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Who knows? Bioware already pulled a Kansas City shuffle with ME2, maybe they'll pull another for ME3.


Somehow I doubt it.  ME1 was about discovering the threat that the Reapers posed and as to why Saren suddenly went rouge.

ME2 was about building up a solid enough team to take out the Collectors, a highly advanced race that inhabits the are beyong the O4 Relay and find out why they were abducting Humans and what their connection tot he Reapers is.

My prediction is going to be that ME3 is going to focus more on recruiting a few team members to replace the ones that will be lost between 2 and 3 but then focus more on finding a way to beat the Reapers (more like ME1 but with the same content and richness level as ME2).

In anycase BW has a huge task ahead of them; ME3 is either going to be overly epic or overly phail.

Modifié par Geowil, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:48 .


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Therion942 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Why do so many think Jacob will return?
He's the least liked squadmate across both games.

All the more reason for him to return.

Thats just twisted.
I'd sooner have Conrad on my squad.

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shepard_lives wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Why would BioWare spend resources on conceptualising, writing, modeling, casting, desinging and creating a bunch of new squadmates when we just spent an entire game recruiting the most powerful individuals in the galaxy and ensuring their loyalty.


That's exactly what I think, but apparently most people are certain that since they can die then they won't even be mentioned in ME3.

Frankly, I think that's a load bull.
You squad amounts to at least ten people, up to twelve. Now, unless you actively try to get them slaughtered, how many of them can you lose in the mission? I'd say four, five, six at most. That leaves you with a good half of your squad intact. Add in the returning Ash/Kai and Liara (not to mention Wrex and maybe a couple new members) and there's plenty to go around. :wizard:B) Also, this would send the replay value through the roof, since you'll want to import saves with different surviving squaddies to check out the ME3 content for each of them.
And if you finish ME2 with only two or three surviving companions, you're a bad leader (or killed them on purpose) and you deserve a small team for ME3. Simple.

Damn, I should totally make a thread about this.

I agree. I say how many old characters will return, or how many new ones we'll get, will be an indication of how much Bioware is willing to ****** off the existing ME fans. The single most often repeated wish on the ME3 wishlist polls is for old characters to return. They'd be crazy to ignore that.
Having said that, I'm OK with some new characters. But only if we'll get most of old ones back as well. Particularly the LIs. I think there's a good chance we'll get them back.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:53 .


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With Bioware having an obsession with new characters i don't doubt there will be new ones on the way. I just hope it's not a total shut out like they did for DA:O bringing in a whole cast of new characters we have no reason to care about when we had a previous game full of characters we actually gave a damn for.



Saying that my list of returns would be something like this going on logic.



Locked returns: Some of these of course are based on survival in ME2 (or ME1 in the case of Wrex)



Liara: From LotSB we have more or less learned what her role will be in ME3 most likely assuming TIM's role sending information and moving the story along.



Wrex: If he survived in ME it's more or less certain he;ll be appearing again in some role . Perhaps to kick some ass during the final stand against the Reapers for a few fan pleasing moments.



Garrus: Being a squadmate in the previous two games makes it a high likelyhood that if he is still alive he will appear for the third installment. He's been with us form the very begining of it all so it makes sense that he would see things through to the end.



Tali: Everyones favourite (or least in some cases) Quarian again if still living will likely be making her return for ME3. More gushy fan pleasing moments shall follow.



Miranda: Having played a very important part in the second game i feel like she'll be back for the next one. Having quit Cerberus at dying moments of the battle on the collector base she really has nowhere to go and will likely follow Shepard to the very end.



Likely returns: The returns i think will happen but are uncertain



Jacob: For basically the same reason as Miranda. He was all disserlusioned with Cerberus by the end of the game and seemed to be ready to jump on board team Shepard. He's most likely ready to fight for the right thing as we learn that's what he really believes in in ME2.



Ashley or Kaiden: Having been shunned to a cameo in ME2 most would feel they deserve a big role in ME3 and i think it's definately likely although by no means a lock being that they could just tie up loose ends in DLC and send them packing.



Thane Krios: Another character that Bioware seemed to put a lot of work into for ME2 had one of the most interesting backstories of the whole group and they usually don't focus on a character unless they have some importance. But it all depends how fast he is dying as he said the collector mission would be his last. He also has a son to spend time with so we'll see what happens.



Jack: The one character i think about in a story way and feel "what the heck else could she do?" She's a fugetive chased by both the authorities and by Cerberus and doesn't really have anywhere else to live besides on the Normandy. Plus she enjoys killing and the chance to do that follows Shepard like moths to a flame.



Legion: From a logic point of view i don't really know. He has some reasons to be there with the coming Reaper threat it would be a problem for the Geth's planned future so he may want to aid Shepard in the fight on the other hand he might just return to the Geth collective. But i think general fan appeal will see him into the next game.

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The only squad members I can see returning from ME2 are Tali, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, and Jack. Maybe Legion. The rest are unlikely. For ME squad members:

Liara - Unlikely. She is the Shadow Broker and needs to run her organization.

Wrex - Unlikely. He is Urdnot clan leader and needs to keep the clans in line.

Virmire survivor - Unlikely. Still stuck in the "Cerberus is bad!" mindset. They don't even believe you anyway. However, if the VS is a LI they could return since they change their minds (sort of) in their email.

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As squad members:
Virmire survivor - 100% (self explanatory - LI character)
LI from ME2 - 100% (Garrus\\Tali\\Thane\\Miranda\\Jack\\Jacob)
Liara - 50% (she may be too busy to be a permanent squadmember)
ME2 squadmembers (not LI) - 50%
Wrex - 20% (also may be too busy)

Modifié par Aramintai, 19 octobre 2010 - 09:32 .


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Ok, taking into account that everyone in ME2 is dead...



Captain Bailey: Seems to be the new Garrus. Has the same mannerisms, is mentioned by TIM as someone of interest, is shown in LOTSB vids. Seems an obvious choice.



Liara: Liara should return in some capacity. She seems to be Shepherd's rock. Saved Shep from death, worked with him in ME1 and becomes the new Shadow Broker. Whether she's a teammate or a information depository isn't known - but she'll have some role to fill.



Feron: He seems to hint that after helping out Liara with the Lair, he's got something else to do. Maybe help take down Cerberus or work with getting Drell/ Hanar on our side - he seems to be wanting in. Meant to be pretty good in a firefight as well.



Virmire Survivor. If they aren't coming in a DLC pack, I can see them coming in ME3.



Legion: I think he's the one guy who can't really die in ME2. I'm not sure. But he can also be replaced by another Geth and still have the same personality, right?



Joker: Seeing as he's the "best pilot" I'm sure we'll see him again. I love his personality. He has some of the best lines.



Aria: We already know that people are plotting against them, and if the galaxy is under threat or something. Maybe she just gets upset about Licelle. In either case, she's such a well developed character and apparently bad-ass that she could become a potential team-mate.



That's all I can think of. I think Dr. Michel can be a replacement for Dr. Chakwas if she dies, and Kahlee Sanders could be our new Yeoman.

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I just don't see Liara and Shepard been in the same role as TIM and shep were or like council (ME1).
Also Liara seems to be a popuar char who is not possibly dead, like the ME2 crew or Wrex is, I'd say they won't waste her char in ME3 to a role like TIM or the council's.
Also I don't see shepard taking orders from Liara really, lol
and apart from uniting the galaxy, building forces ect, I got a feeling the protheans will have something to do with the reapers demise (maybe not the main reason, but part of it prehaps), IE shepard going to more Prothean dig sites and who is one of the best Prothean experts with the cipher in her head and has had access to more data about them than anyone else (sb base databases), Liara!
Also Feron can take over her job for the time in ME3, they left him Alive and well for a reason I reckon.
Anyway just for now, they've got her in a safe place so to speak, rather than a sitting duck on Illium.

Legion needs to return tho, damn kool that char, it's a pity u pick it up so late in the game, :(
Legion and wrex must get a decent role in ME3, they are both very popular and funny!

Modifié par Grasser, 19 octobre 2010 - 10:23 .


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Well, let's take into account that everyone squadmate kan be killed In mass effect effect 2 as well as Wrex in Mass effect, that leaves only Liara and Ashley/Kaidan.

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Virmire survivour probably.

There are many old squadmates that are very popular wich is s strong economical incentive for BioWare to include them even if they was killable in ME2. I'm sure they can think of a smart way to do that. To just cast them as cameos would be rather boring, I expect BioWare to do better than that.

I guess Wrex, Garrus and Tali are popular enough to include even if it's hard to do.

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Bioware's put themselves in a pretty precarious position when it comes to the ME3 squad. Pleasing everyone is going to be a huge challenge and I've got a feeling that one fanbase is going to leave ME3 annoyed.

1. They need to bring back those who are still alive from the first game. Especially the LI's. I could see a lot of rage coming if the VS makes it in as a squaddie and not Liara and vice versa. This also applies to Garrus and Tali.

2. Miranda and Jacob are very likely to return. The only other likely one is Legion. This, of course, depends on the outcome of the suicide mission.

So that leaves us, if every possible character survived, with:

Liara
The VS
Wrex
Garrus
Tali
Miranda
Jacob
Legion.

8 squad members. ME2, with all DLC installed, gave us 12 characters. Wrex is a bit up in the air when it comes to ME3 as he could end up staying on Tuchanka. Other than that, they could bring back the ME1 team and the few loyalists from ME2 and still have some room for other ME2 characters or new characters.

Modifié par NPH11, 19 octobre 2010 - 12:27 .


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Aramintai wrote...

As squad members:
Virmire survivor - 100% (self explanatory - LI character)
LI from ME2 - 100% (Garrus\\\\Tali\\\\Thane\\\\Miranda\\\\Jack\\\\Jacob)
Liara - 50% (she may be too busy to be a permanent squadmember)
ME2 squadmembers (not LI) - 50%
Wrex - 20% (also may be too busy)

This logic is flawed. Liara is a LI. By your logic all LI should be back expect for Liara =]

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La Coka Slaughterhouse wrote...

I hope there is an option to kill the VS in the DLC, so I don't have to deal with them in ME 3. Give me Leng as a possible squad mate and team him up with Jack, and have Liara giving me the info I need to defeat the reapers and I'll be good to go. Don't really need anyone else.

Before opening your mouth, you should go back to pre relase of ME2. Chud said Ash, Kaida and Liara where not squadmates because they are important in ME3. liara could not be killed, either will Ask and Kai be if this rumored DLC is true.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

La Coka Slaughterhouse wrote...

I hope there is an option to kill the VS in the DLC, so I don't have to deal with them in ME 3. Give me Leng as a possible squad mate and team him up with Jack, and have Liara giving me the info I need to defeat the reapers and I'll be good to go. Don't really need anyone else.

Before opening your mouth, you should go back to pre relase of ME2. Chud said Ash, Kaida and Liara where not squadmates because they are important in ME3. liara could not be killed, either will Ask and Kai be if this rumored DLC is true.


Liara became the Shadow Broker, I highly doubt there is anything the VS could be doing that is half as important as that.  Even then if VS becomes a forced squad mate in ME3, they'll die then.

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Geowil wrote...

But yeah, I see no reason for not having everyone back..By the way I doubt Liara comes back as she is now the new Shadow Broker, there is no way she could join the team and also deal with that at the same time.  Maybe she finds a replacement though?


 I think for most of the game she'll be in a similar role as TIM, but as you prepare to make the end run Liara will no longer have a role. After all it is going to be the final battle. Either the Reapers are defeated or galactic civilization is once again destroyed. With that in mind it is possible (though by no means certain) that she'll join you at the end as the last recruitable squadmate.

think if Bioware creates a rerun of ME2 spending much of the game recruiting new characters then it will be a fail.


I agree if they handle it the same way of ME2. But it could work if squad recruitment was handled like ME1, and you recruit most of them very early in the game. It could also work if it is similar to ME2 except their recruitment missions are related to the Reapers, and not side quests.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Well, let's take into account that everyone squadmate kan be killed In mass effect effect 2 as well as Wrex in Mass effect, that leaves only Liara and Ashley/Kaidan.


I don't think this guarantees that killable ME2 squaddies won't return for ME3.

If you play a fresh game without importing, continuity is obviously not an issue. It only becomes an issue for people who import an ME2 game where squad members died. Bioware can obviously resolve this simply by removing those squad members (and their associated missions, if ME3 has them) during this playthrough.

In my opinion, the biggest barrier to the "none of them will be in ME3" argument is that two squad members MUST
survive the suicide mission in order for a playthrough to be viable for importing. The obvious question is "why?" and the equally obvious answer is "so you still have (at least) a 3 man team in ME3".

Perhaps the "big effect" of losing people in ME2 is simply that you won't have them in ME3.

Makes sense, really.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:08 .


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Why assume that the Virmire survivor is going to return? Judging from the reaction on Horizon I do not see how they would return unless they were love interests. Even then I doubt it.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

As squad members:
Virmire survivor - 100% (self explanatory - LI character)
LI from ME2 - 100% (Garrus\\\\\\\\Tali\\\\\\\\Thane\\\\\\\\Miranda\\\\\\\\Jack\\\\\\\\Jacob)
Liara - 50% (she may be too busy to be a permanent squadmember)
ME2 squadmembers (not LI) - 50%
Wrex - 20% (also may be too busy)

This logic is flawed. Liara is a LI. By your logic all LI should be back expect for Liara =]

Liara is the Shadow Broker. I do not see how she can be a squadmate and run such a large information network. I see her as being pushed into a role similar to that of the Illusive Man.

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Spectre_907 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

As squad members:
Virmire survivor - 100% (self explanatory - LI character)
LI from ME2 - 100% (Garrus\\Tali\\Thane\\Miranda\\Jack\\Jacob)
Liara - 50% (she may be too busy to be a permanent squadmember)
ME2 squadmembers (not LI) - 50%
Wrex - 20% (also may be too busy)

This logic is flawed. Liara is a LI. By your logic all LI should be back expect for Liara =]

Liara is the Shadow Broker. I do not see how she can be a squadmate and run such a large information network. I see her as being pushed into a role similar to that of the Illusive Man.

Yes, that exactly what I meant by giving her only half the chance of returining as permanent squadmember - she has an important job now. Maybe things will change in ME3, maybe Feron will play Shadow Broker for her. 
Also, I think that being Shepard's LI is also a factor  for a character to return as a squadmember, maybe only LI from ME2 will return for a permanent role while other ME2 squaddies will become npc, if they survived that is. Because otherwise there will be too many old characters and certainly devs want to create some new squaddies for ME3.

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Spectre_907 wrote...

Virmire survivor - Unlikely. Still stuck in the "Cerberus is bad!" mindset. They don't even believe you anyway. However, if the VS is a LI they could return since they change their minds (sort of) in their email.


I doubt we'll be working for Cerberus in ME3. LotSB set the Shadowbroker (Liara) up to be TIM's replacement, as far as moving the story along and giving you mission info.

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 The thing is... any sqadmate who participates in the suicide mission may be dead. So you gotta be careful with that.

Liara can't have died in the Suicide mission and she is an important character so she will be there.

Characters who were there in both games and are very established as well: Garrus & Tali. Wrex will appear as king of the Urdnot Clan. Other than that I don't know. Miranda has a lot of fans, yet so did Kaidan and Ashley, and they didn't reappear except for a short fight on Horizon either.

Of the non-squadmate characters: Dr. Chakwas and EDI can't have died, so they will be there. And I think Joker will be as well.